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I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
I love Trion, and I'm all for playing games with some 'eastern' flare, but playing this felt clunky, vapid, and, for lack of a better word...free--Which it is, I know, but wow...
Are the starting areas just that bad? Is the interface awesome once you get over how garish everything looks?
I have a feeling the hype-monster is out of control on this one--in no way does it feel like playing, say, A Realm Reborn, or WIldstar, or even ESO, even in their beta stages.
I hope I'm wrong, since I want Trion to get rich like they deserve for giving us Rift back in the day, but this didn't grab me...at all.
Anyway, meh. Just my opinion.
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Thanks for your opinion.
I think maybe this game isn't for you.
I would recommend you to continue playing Rift.
So many people are being told this... Aren't you funboys (if anything else your avatar qualifies you for it...) a little bit worried about it? Like little enough to actually try to address some of the issues the people being told to go play a different game have? And I don't mean this specifically to the OP which was more of an atmosphere kind of issue (unless he was referring to the huge amount of bugs the game has) which you can't really fix this late in the game's lifespan.
I mean you don't really want to have an open pvp world with 1000 patrons on each server playing 2 days a month.. or do you?
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I play wildstar, ARR, and ESO....and I can tell you that the pvp in AA is much smoother....in wildstar everything is an aoe....in ARR the global cd is what 2 seconds? and in ESO with NO cd you can spam abilties like fire rune and be OP pressing ONE button.....
AA felt alot better pvp wise then any of the games you mention, but to each his own
May i ask you OP how much have you played?
It´s not that the "game feel" changes completely after level 15-20tish but you get a better flavor of what the game has to offer...
And for me is way more than enough...
If the game doesn´t catch your interest with the housing....farming...crafting...sailing or open economy will probably won´t do it neither with dungeons or questing....so it might be simply not the game for you.
Every account ever made on this site...including spam bots and douche bags that try and multi account spam give aways represent less than 1% of the mmo population.
Forum posts here don't mean anything when it comes to predicting the success or failure of an mmo.
What's pissing me off is that if some one doesn't post with another "OMG!!! AA is the greatest thing since..." they are told they don't get it, the game isn't for them.
Care to be a little more elitist?
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with AA for the most part.
But seriously, there's nothing new or ground breaking about the game. But being condescending to people that aren't instant fanbois isn't going to help bring people into the game.
I can predict that... that I'm currently enjoying the game quite a lot, and so are my guildmates from GW2.
We had a guild-hiatus after GW2 when a few of us joined Wildstar. We had a ton of fun in Wildstar but as many other mmos, once you were done with the linear quest content, you're basically done with the game (except if you're into HL gaming and run the same veteran dungeons and raids over and over again to get your place on the leaderboards... but that's not really my thing).
Here in ArcheAge you can tend to your everyday business like in a proper virtual world. You tend to your crops if you're a farmer, gather resources and craft if you're into that, do trade runs from a region to another alone or with friends, open world PvP, hunt traveling merchants, etc. And while you do whatever you want, others around you do the same, and witnessing all these things happen around you makes the game quite "alive" imo.
Of course free to play members will be mostly "stuck" doing PvE and PvP. But F2P players with a bit of insight know that they can also be farmers, crafters, traders like anyone else if they find the proper spots, or guilds to give them lands to work on.
I've had a lot of random interactions with other players in ArcheAge, which never happened in GuildWars2, Wildstar and ESO (beside "lfg vet run no noob pls"), chatted while onboard a flying zeppeling, hitching a ride on a player-controled steampunk tractor that was going to the same city, etc.
The game is a lot of fun. Of course if you're a skeptic, just wait for release, the game will be Free 2 Play (that doesn't mean it's a freeware, so yes, there will be microtransactions and premium users will get benefits : deal with it), and make your own opinion about it.
It's the same argument that is in every forum. /shrug
You would think that everyone would pull together and discuss how awesome each individual mmorpg was on it's own level. It's to bad we can't get excited about our fellow gamers joy in his chosen game. We shouldn't be slamming each others choices of game, but joining hands and destroying other fans genres for not choosing this one.
FPS, RTS, MOBA, suck!
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What else would you have people say? There are folks who do enjoy playing AA, so apparently they do "get it", and the game is for them.
The fact that you can say there's nothing new or ground breaking about the game means you in fact don't get it, and it's not for you either.
It isn't the features themselves, but how they all interact together in specific combination and harmony that make the game more interesting to some of us than standard MMO titles, but again, not everyone will see it.
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You must be just...wrong....
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
Cmon the guy has a AA avatar, did you really expect anything else from him? You cant take anything someone posts that has AA for an avatar seriously. They are openly going to fanboi it so.....
Thanks for the responses. I'll probably give it another shot when the next beta rolls around, and in the meantime...torn between plugging on in Wildstar (but to what end), jumping back into ARR (but extreme mode fights scare me
or hells, even seeing what GW2 looks like after 2 years away.
I don't think AA will be a bad game, and it certainly sounds like it's got a lot of appeal to those looking to really invest themselves in it. I was just a little thrown because people talk as if it'll be the next big thing, where in fact it will very likely be a niche game almost right away.
Anyway, thanks again. I do love to hear about the good things any game has to offer...
Ok, I would ask you to point out a new or ground breaking feature.
Farming? In other games.
Flight? In other games.
Oh wait, it must be that it features PvP! Nope...
I didn't say AA is a bad game. I enjoyed CB2 and plan to sub to the game. But thanks for illustrating the elitist attitude I was talking about...
theres nothing wrong with that first impression, it leaves a lot to be desired. Its honestly not that impressive at all and does seem pretty dated for the first 10 or so levels. I think what draws most people are all the little "other" things that start expanding as you progress. It has a lot to offer in that respect, not so much on the pve/questing/raiding aspect though.
and even though Im a founder, I have played it and enjoy it, I totally understand why a lot of MMO gamers will view the game as antiquated on its first impression and decide not to play it. Its just not welcoming like a lot of modern MMO's.
What do you expect them to say? " hold on I'll change that for you" ?
No. Just tell me I don't get it, The game isn't for me and be on your way.
There are no ground breaking features in particular. It's how all of the features can be found in one game.
The planting anywhere. Watering to cut time. Picking when ripe.
The raising of animals for different uses.
The different types of farm like underwater and regular.
The justice system where you are accountable for your deeds.
The building system where you can make vehicles, boats, houses, furnishings.
The trade systems and auction house that breath life into the economy.
The dungeons and quests along the way.
The pvp and all the interesting dynamics it creates.
The fact you can get several people together dancing and it forms a dance party.
All the different ways you use mounts in the game.
Everyone can where any armor.
Anyone can have a pet to assist in combat.
The fact you can max out your character combat tree and then start fresh and max out more on the same character to flip between when you want.
The ability to be able to do a bit of every type of crafting and then decide what to focus in on to eventually max out.
The fact the game starts with only 2 factions and then a 3rd pirate faction starts from players that do bad deeds.
Gliders....
They all come together to make a more complete game that gives longer replay value than many others depending on what a player values.
It's not 'elitest' to say the game probably isn't for you and that should move on.
You wouldn't show up to a ballet class demanding they add tackling and replace the classical music with hardcore rock, so why do it here?
You don't like the game, your opinion is noted. Good luck finding a game you will enjoy.
When i 1st try AA i didnt had a good impression on starting areas, but i had read about the game and want to see more.
But i didnt find those starting areas that bad, just ok and i can leave with ok things in games if they dont take to long.
If you keep that feeling after leaving the starting area, nothing start to grab your attention (combat or non-combat features) then maybe you really dont like the game imo.
Did you just compare AA with a ballet class?
There is no condescension intended at all.
When someone fundamentally fails to see the appeal in something, it's usually because they do not enjoy that particular thing and cannot imagine how anyone could enjoy it. No harm in that, and no harm in telling that person that "the game is not for them".
If you hate broccoli, no amount of explanation of how nice it is will ever convince you. If you cannot see the potential for emergent gameplay in AA, and/or that kind of gameplay doesn't appeal to you, no amount of explanation will change your "meh" feeling.
Woah there champ... no one messes with my APM shot hands -puts on starcraft 1 semi-pro hat on-.
Thank you, exactly the point I was trying to make, just didn't have the energy to type all that last evening. He really wasn't seeing it, keeps focusing on the specific feature and saying, "that's nothing new". Again, not getting it.
Also, he keeps calling me elitist, as if that's an insult or something. I regularly play EVE, of course I'm an elitist, EVE players all think we are.
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All I can say as a 7 year vet of EVE is:
We shall introduce and re-educate the peasants and the themepark heretics to the truth and light of His Grace The Sandbox be it by gentle hand or force if required (yes, I am not at all serious and while not a true sandbox AA is as close as I've seen from the double A side of the industry in the last decade and it is more than an enjoyable hybrid of themepark and sandbox in my honest opinion)..
What I'm hearing here is a person who is used to the level of detail a "themepark" MMO can afford to place into it vs. the "sandbox" reality of this game. You won't find quality cut scenes, videos or voice overs in a sandbox. The graphics will look decent but not state-of-the-art. The interface will feel clunky - IE no grid lines to go by when placing farm plants, etc. These are all elements of a "sandbox" game.
I think the fault lies with the game though. It was introduced as a "sandbox" a couple years back when people started to take notice. What the version we now have has morphed into is more like a themepark-sandbox crossover. The foundation of this game is built on a sandbox model but then they went and added themepark elements like quests, levels, class-based skills which don't really blend well with the original foundation of the game.