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A list of "must haves" for MMO roleplay.
Beatnik59
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I'd like us to generate a list of features in MMOs that we could say are "bare minimums" we as roleplayers need to roleplay well. I'll go first:
Chat Bubbles in spatial.
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will you update your original post to compile the "list" ?
Chat bubbles, walk toggle,
And I add; /emote macros that are tied to key-words in chat, for immersive animations.
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Perhaps at some point, fardreamer.
Basically, I want a list we can show to developers or to copy on threads that talk about features we'd like in our games. Because as recent games have shown us, unless we lobby for features to get put in, we may lose them.
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"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
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LOL, I read the part about the sign . Sounds like someone played Neverwinter Nights.
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The first fundamental feature I'd like to see in a RPG is a means for players to vote. Votes could be used to elect guild leaders, judge crafting contests, city officials. Votes can be 'open', meaning that every character can vote once, limited (only select characters can vote -- guild members, players attending a festival, members of the secret Council of Mages), or weighted (as open, but votes 'cost' something (money, wolf pelts, etc.) and players can vote more than once). The ability for players to assign new elections would help develop content.
A second feature I'd like to see is a way to 'evaluate' something in game based on a character's (possibly hidden) 'values'. Being able to judge esthetic value in a vase or painting and evaluating 'live' performances would really open up crafting by allowing semi-objective competitions. Additionally, a players appearance could be 'evaluated' to establish social standards for dress. (You don't wear your grotty everyday armor to the Queen's birthday celebration).
Between these two features (systems), they could provide the most important thing for fostering role-playing, a reason to role-play within the game.
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DPS meters???
That is a bit Meta for an RPG imo.
My requirements:
Able to sit in chairs and lay in beds (I'm done with tavern RP where everyone is standing next to a table and pretend they're sitting).
Chat bubble option for those who RP in large crowds for better management and -- for some -- more immersion.
In game profile or "tag" the show that you're a Role Player so that others will approach you (or the ability to create addons that would make this an option).
Immersive expressions and idle animations -- something that FFXIV keeps on doing with every patch is adding new emotes, many being "persistent" emotes whereby your character idles in a different stance (that you choose) such as arms to waist, to the back of the head, legs stretched out, etc. Also being able to change positions when sitting like in FFXIV.
Housing and marriage system are starting to be on my list, but not entirely mandatory yet. Though housing is starting to be featured in most MMOs now as a standard, so perhaps it will be as such for any future releases of a game.
Living, breathing world (in a matter of speaking) with active looking cities and worlds. Would be VERY impressed if NPCs in the world and in towns had their own schedules and agendas to go base on the time of day (or even week and on holidays); they could reacts to different hours as well, such as breakfast and morning (people coming out of their houses, children running out, lumberjacks and others going to work...), and the market place getting more crowded with housewives or house husbands looking to stock up and food for breakfast, lunch or dinner. Night time having kids go insides, more dangers outside the gates, and Inns / tavern being popular for towns and cities.
Would like:
Exceptional crafting system (or at least an emote that makes it look like you're doing such things as hammering an anvil or some such); a system of jobs that a character can take on.
A good in-game economy to promote merchants or the owning of shops.
We're a minority, no big company will ever give us what we want.
If you aren't actively part of the solution, you have no right to complain about anything.
Are we a minority? Probably...but we are also one of the easiest demographics to please, and the things we need to roleplay are things that:
1) don't take away anything from anyone else.
and
2) add functionality to the non-roleplayers among us.
__________________________
"Its sad when people use religion to feel superior, its even worse to see people using a video game to do it."
--Arcken
"...when it comes to pimping EVE I have little restraints."
--Hellmar, CEO of CCP.
"It's like they took a gun, put it to their nugget sack and pulled the trigger over and over again, each time telling us how great it was that they were shooting themselves in the balls."
--Exar_Kun on SWG's NGE
Not sure if these are must-haves but I look for them.
non-combat/crafting stats such as:
Does a person tend to be loner or social
Clean or dirty
Fat/skinny
Nice/Mean
Rich/poor
Charitable/greedy
(yes a lot of this came from project gorgon)
Also the ability to change your little piece of the world to your liking, No i don't mean turning your house into a factory ala archeage I mean you can choose what types of furniture and other things (themes if you will) that have an effect on the surrounding area, too many things create pollution the trees will be withered, lots of dark artifacts, the sky will darken in that area.
The more unique we make the character themselves and their things in the world by our actions the more I feel people will roleplay to those ideals, people will more likely seek these roleplaying ideals out if they see an actual effect in their character
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What would a gold seller emote be, furtive glances and pointing to a dark alley?
Fundamentals:
walk toggle
chat bubbles
/emote command
Things all MMO's catering to RP should have:
chairs you can actually sit in
items you can pick up for RP
Character housing with useable furniture, decorations including the basics bottles, cups, plates, etc
Taverns open to players
Job boards- give a more immersive appeal to the content in the game
Guild Halls or Community Halls
A dedicated RP server
These are just a few of things I would require in a game to seriously cater to RP.
There are only two things you need.
1) Chat: for RP between two people.
2) Say: For RP between a group of people.
Those are the minimums.
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Sounds like Neverwinter Nights to me.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
We RPed in muds back in the 80s. No reason modern gamers can't figure it out without the devs having to write code for them.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
The backbone of roleplay is in creating a robust system of tracking player decisions so not only players, but the world itself can rewards or hold players accountable for all their decisions be they good, evil or neutral in nature. Generally this is a faction and reputation system. Without it I find games lack depth and the immersive qualities that keep me interested.
players can do that themselves. Rewards isn't a factor of RP.
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https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Basically you just need a lot of players and a "say" function. There are other things that helps like emotes, guildhalls to spend time in with the guildies and so on but while those are helpful they are not must haves.
If you have npcs in the game they should not be stereotypical npcs who just stand around like in the first Diablo game either, they could at least look alive but MMOs mustn't have npcs. You can also let players run the stores and so in a MMO.
Roleplay is just something you do, props and emotes do help a bit but as long as you can talk with the other people in the world you can always roleplay.
The world should be conducive to roleplay, providing a setting as interactive and dynamic as possible. Rewards or punishment are just a byproduct of a world that matters.