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[Column] Guild Wars 2: How Can ArenaNet Get Ex-Players Back Into The Game?

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  • BeelzebobbieBeelzebobbie Member UncommonPosts: 430
    I agree that the downed system should be removed from wvw this would be a huge improvement.
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  • shalissarshalissar Member UncommonPosts: 509
    Originally posted by moosecatlol
    I'll take "firing their writers", for 500 Alex.

    This and new classes. It's about time these guys implemented some more variety. More weapons for classes or just new classes in general. CHOP CHOP!

  • BeelzebobbieBeelzebobbie Member UncommonPosts: 430

    Why do you want a healer class when there already is.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpVCUNGnSmQ

  • elockeelocke Member UncommonPosts: 4,335
    Originally posted by Viper482
    Originally posted by ZizouX

     

    This made me realize two things.  I really missed PvE end game / raid content. I missed party defined roles (tank, support, dps, healing).  All of the content end game was a cluster Fu@#.  Everyone running around doing damage, avoiding red circles, and rezzing party members.  Every single fight was dodge red circles, dps, and rez.  That's it.

     

     

    This.

    Also one thing I hated was the WvW tournament style crap. I want a persistent world where I fight against an enemy, not some e-sports week long match no one cares about.

    Bingo.  Lack of a "real" progression system to pull me into the game after hitting cap or that can make playing alts just as fun.  Even the Living Story is nice and all but I still feel like "what's the point?" when I log in just to have them unlocked for, hopefully a future where GW2 actually has meat to it's MMORPG aspects instead of stupid cosmetic outfit chasing(fine to have but not as the only reward to chase at endgame).  Lack of a trinity really hurt this game too because I can't stand doing dungeons due to the chaotic nature of parties and builds.  Ugh, this game actually does need an NGE, lol.

  • GrootGroot Member UncommonPosts: 87
    The game is fun in small doses, but the only thing I like to do is run around to different maps and do events.  Even that has a stopping point though.  It is just not a long term game :(  
  • BeelzebobbieBeelzebobbie Member UncommonPosts: 430
    Originally posted by elocke
    Originally posted by Viper482
    Originally posted by ZizouX

     Bingo.  Lack of a "real" progression system to pull me into the game after hitting cap or that can make playing alts just as fun.  Even the Living Story is nice and all but I still feel like "what's the point?" when I log in just to have them unlocked for, hopefully a future where GW2 actually has meat to it's MMORPG aspects instead of stupid cosmetic outfit chasing(fine to have but not as the only reward to chase at endgame).  Lack of a trinity really hurt this game too because I can't stand doing dungeons due to the chaotic nature of parties and builds.  Ugh, this game actually does need an NGE, lol.

    The "lack" of gear progression is what makes me want to play the game. The alternative with gearscores and "sorry you can't play here since you don't have the exact spec for your elementalist and your gearscore is 2 points to low" really turns me off. Having the freedom to tweek your char anyway you want and play the way you like is something I love.

    Getting your exotics easy is something I like cause I rather chase cosmetics then doin same dungeons over and over and over and 100 times more until I get my shoulders so I can progress to the next dungeon with a higher gearscore is nothing more then time consuming and really boaring.

    You can still chase Legendary and Ascended if you want gear progression in this game more then that and I would quit.

    It needs and expansion, the gamers scream for an expansion this is what we need.

  • KotorezKotorez Member Posts: 6
    No trinity or lack of ability to spec the character the way I want is what prevents me from coming back. I tried the game 1 month ago and I wanted to make a charr with a shield and an axe (Tank like an ironbreaker from WAR). If the game provides freedom of choice, then I should be able to select anything I want but no. Turns out that this is not possible because "this and that" is not viable, you only have to use "that" to stand a chance in PVP. 
  • Kaynos72Kaynos72 Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by Sevenstar61

    I got only to level 23. I just can't get excited about it.  I was keeping trying but the game just does not sing to me. I don't see myself coming back to be honest.

    Same thing, the game is just plain boring to play for me also.

  • AvarixAvarix Member RarePosts: 665

    A couple things that would interest me.

     

    • Get rid of Downed state in WvWvW
    • Get rid of AoE, damage only, capped skills (Usually maxes at 5 players) in WvWvW
    • GvG battles and ladders
    • Unlock skills so they're not tied to specific weapons. The ability to mix/match weapon skills on your bar
    • Skill progression similar to the original Guild Wars (A TON of skill unlocks)
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    W/e it is I hope they use this information to produce what people want, not just to tell them what they want to hear.
  • BailoPan15BailoPan15 Member Posts: 410
    Originally posted by Avarix

    A couple things that would interest me.

     

    • Get rid of Downed state in WvWvW
    • Get rid of AoE, damage only, capped skills (Usually maxes at 5 players) in WvWvW
    • GvG battles and ladders
    • Unlock skills so they're not tied to specific weapons. The ability to mix/match weapon skills on your bar
    • Skill progression similar to the original Guild Wars (A TON of skill unlocks)
    • Nop, no thanks, go play your insta death games. Downed state in WvW adds to strategy. Go play tetris somewhere else
    • Nop, with no friendly fire this is idiotic and makes the fight really really boring. You do realize that AoE caps were added AFTER launch right? Just like ESO did when they saw how stupid it is.
    • That would be awesome yep
    • Yeah, barrage with greatsword will be awesome i suppose. /sarcasm
    • a TON of skills unlocks, from which how many do you use exactly? Probably less than the skills already in Gw2. Rose tinted glasses off please. Admit it, most skills are rubbish!
  • iFruitiFruit Member UncommonPosts: 98
    I'd come back if I could kill Trahearne. Fuck it, i'd even skip work to do it on all my 8 characters.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Is PVE still "Heavies Only"?

     

     

    It is, as it has always been, "everyone but Rangers and Necromancers." 

    There are marsians plotting to invade Earth. Your post made as much sense yep. 

    Why are you responding to every post in the same way?

    The title of this thread is how to get players back. This thread was created to invite people to come here and express why they stopped playing, and what ANET can do to get them back. The thread's position is coming from an acknowledgement that GW2 does have problems, and that there is a substantial number from its population who left because they didn't feel the game that was promised was actually delivered. The very nature of this threat assumes this is already established. 

     

    You are going all "fan-boy" over people for expressing their opinions just as this thread has invited them to do. They aren't going to return to GW2 after "seeing the light " based on your condescending replies. 

  • BeelzebobbieBeelzebobbie Member UncommonPosts: 430
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Is PVE still "Heavies Only"?

     

     

    It is, as it has always been, "everyone but Rangers and Necromancers." 

    There are marsians plotting to invade Earth. Your post made as much sense yep. 

    Why are you responding to every post in the same way?

    The title of this thread is how to get players back. This thread was created to invite people to come here and express why they stopped playing, and what ANET can do to get them back. The thread's position is coming from an acknowledgement that GW2 does have problems, and that there is a substantial number from its population who left because they didn't feel the game that was promised was actually delivered. The very nature of this threat assumes this is already established. 

     

    You are going all "fan-boy" over people for expressing their opinions just as this thread has invited them to do. They aren't going to return to GW2 after "seeing the light " based on your condescending replies. 

    Well to reply to your first question then it is, no, it's not heavies only. Sure there are still in the LFG "warrior zerk only exp player only" but many play in other ways aswell. In my guild we use a "healer" and 4 dps and we have completed everything so guess this works also. I have no problems with doing a dungeon in a random group with any of my chars and I don't have any zerkers anymore.

    RAngers and necros aren't the most popular professions in the game, ranger works since it can controll it's pet more but a necro with a minion master spec isn't that popular, I do play sometimes with mine in my guild even if they complain :)

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Originally posted by Beelzebobbie
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Is PVE still "Heavies Only"?

     

     

    It is, as it has always been, "everyone but Rangers and Necromancers." 

    There are marsians plotting to invade Earth. Your post made as much sense yep. 

    Why are you responding to every post in the same way?

    The title of this thread is how to get players back. This thread was created to invite people to come here and express why they stopped playing, and what ANET can do to get them back. The thread's position is coming from an acknowledgement that GW2 does have problems, and that there is a substantial number from its population who left because they didn't feel the game that was promised was actually delivered. The very nature of this threat assumes this is already established. 

     

    You are going all "fan-boy" over people for expressing their opinions just as this thread has invited them to do. They aren't going to return to GW2 after "seeing the light " based on your condescending replies. 

    Well to reply to your first question then it is, no, it's not heavies only. Sure there are still in the LFG "warrior zerk only exp player only" but many play in other ways aswell. In my guild we use a "healer" and 4 dps and we have completed everything so guess this works also. I have no problems with doing a dungeon in a random group with any of my chars and I don't have any zerkers anymore.

    RAngers and necros aren't the most popular professions in the game, ranger works since it can controll it's pet more but a necro with a minion master spec isn't that popular, I do play sometimes with mine in my guild even if they complain :)

    My favorite was my Dual Pistol Thief. I loved that play style. No one else did though. Never failed. I'd get........"You got a Warrior or a Guardian Alt?" Which, I did, but still.

  • BeelzebobbieBeelzebobbie Member UncommonPosts: 430
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Beelzebobbie
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Is PVE still "Heavies Only"?

     

     

    It is, as it has always been, "everyone but Rangers and Necromancers." 

    There are marsians plotting to invade Earth. Your post made as much sense yep. 

    Why are you responding to every post in the same way?

    The title of this thread is how to get players back. This thread was created to invite people to come here and express why they stopped playing, and what ANET can do to get them back. The thread's position is coming from an acknowledgement that GW2 does have problems, and that there is a substantial number from its population who left because they didn't feel the game that was promised was actually delivered. The very nature of this threat assumes this is already established. 

     

    You are going all "fan-boy" over people for expressing their opinions just as this thread has invited them to do. They aren't going to return to GW2 after "seeing the light " based on your condescending replies. 

    Well to reply to your first question then it is, no, it's not heavies only. Sure there are still in the LFG "warrior zerk only exp player only" but many play in other ways aswell. In my guild we use a "healer" and 4 dps and we have completed everything so guess this works also. I have no problems with doing a dungeon in a random group with any of my chars and I don't have any zerkers anymore.

    RAngers and necros aren't the most popular professions in the game, ranger works since it can controll it's pet more but a necro with a minion master spec isn't that popular, I do play sometimes with mine in my guild even if they complain :)

    My favorite was my Dual Pistol Thief. I loved that play style. No one else did though. Never failed. I'd get........"You got a Warrior or a Guardian Alt?" Which, I did, but still.

    Yeah I know, it was alot like this for awhile, it's still hard to go with randoms as a healing gaurdian and trying to explain that your gonna heal them in a game that has no healer :)

    But I did a few dungeons with my thief yesterday that has dual daggers and dual pistols and spec it with a "healing/toughness doing damage through stacking might build" and I like it I do a great deal of damage and I easily heal myself back to full health. Even did atherblade with it and that isn't an easy dungeon so guess it works fine :)

  • TheRealDarkeusTheRealDarkeus Member UncommonPosts: 314
    Fixing the combat is the only way to get me back. It is pretty bad and the lack of the trinity without a proper replacement is the main problem with the game, IMO.... There is no reason to play Support or any other role except DPS... And that is boring , boring, boring....
  • liixanderliixander Member UncommonPosts: 7

    Some of the dialogue for NPCs is unbearably lame.  Not the cutscenes.  Those are great.  The ones where NPCs are talking to each other.  Some of the actors voices and characters are unbearably annoying and cutesy in the the most grating way possible.

    Then there is the fact that low level zones are typically kind of depopulated, the fact that the combat is annoying... you can't dodge nearly as much as you need to be able to much of the time.  Then, there is the game balance, where combat can be super annoying, and you can't take on more than one thing of your level without dying regularly.  Nobody wants that kind of grief.  

    Between the weird voices, irritating NPC dialog when you're moving through their area, combat weirdness and balance issues, I gave GW2 a good three weeks of play then stopped.

    Then, I try again every 3-6 months... for about an hour or two, and then I've said WTF about a hundred times, then "to hell with this", and I give up on it again.

  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
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    i wish to delete my reply. How do i do that O.O

     

  • BeelzebobbieBeelzebobbie Member UncommonPosts: 430
    Originally posted by liixander

    Some of the dialogue for NPCs is unbearably lame.  Not the cutscenes.  Those are great.  The ones where NPCs are talking to each other.  Some of the actors voices and characters are unbearably annoying and cutesy in the the most grating way possible.

    Then there is the fact that low level zones are typically kind of depopulated, the fact that the combat is annoying... you can't dodge nearly as much as you need to be able to much of the time.  Then, there is the game balance, where combat can be super annoying, and you can't take on more than one thing of your level without dying regularly.  Nobody wants that kind of grief.  

    Between the weird voices, irritating NPC dialog when you're moving through their area, combat weirdness and balance issues, I gave GW2 a good three weeks of play then stopped.

    Then, I try again every 3-6 months... for about an hour or two, and then I've said WTF about a hundred times, then "to hell with this", and I give up on it again.

    You need a good guild to play with, this always makes every game more fun. I agree that the dialogs can be really enoying sometimes. A good guild that helps you on your way could be your ticket back if you wanted to.

    Every game (almost ) can be fun when your playing with your friends.

  • BailoPan15BailoPan15 Member Posts: 410

    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Is PVE still "Heavies Only"?

     

     

    It is, as it has always been, "everyone but Rangers and Necromancers." 

    There are marsians plotting to invade Earth. Your post made as much sense yep. 

    Why are you responding to every post in the same way?

    The title of this thread is how to get players back. This thread was created to invite people to come here and express why they stopped playing, and what ANET can do to get them back. The thread's position is coming from an acknowledgement that GW2 does have problems, and that there is a substantial number from its population who left because they didn't feel the game that was promised was actually delivered. The very nature of this threat assumes this is already established. 

     

    You are going all "fan-boy" over people for expressing their opinions just as this thread has invited them to do. They aren't going to return to GW2 after "seeing the light " based on your condescending replies. 

     

    Long story short....most of you people's arguments have already been fixed, addressed or borderline stupid. I'm only here to let you know how wrong you are. I liked your approach, you asked questions. Most of the other replies just shoot up without ever thinking if what they are saying isn't a nonsense. Why should I care how I structure my reply if they structure theirs in a poor way? 

    Also to the people that suggest ANet should stop with living story patches and start implementing new features - newsflash...only one team is working on the living story, so that means they are producing new stuff. Also once it starts it can't stop because you want it to. There are some people, like myself, that actively participate in the living world events and actually have fun while at it. Last time, right after the end of living world season 1, we received the wardrobe the new dye system and tons of other features. ANet team is very strict about not mixing up content updates with feature updates. So unless you understand that policy, stop posting.

     

    Originally posted by GeezerGamer

    Originally posted by Beelzebobbie
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by Aeander
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Is PVE still "Heavies Only"?

     

     

    It is, as it has always been, "everyone but Rangers and Necromancers." 

    There are marsians plotting to invade Earth. Your post made as much sense yep. 

    Why are you responding to every post in the same way?

    The title of this thread is how to get players back. This thread was created to invite people to come here and express why they stopped playing, and what ANET can do to get them back. The thread's position is coming from an acknowledgement that GW2 does have problems, and that there is a substantial number from its population who left because they didn't feel the game that was promised was actually delivered. The very nature of this threat assumes this is already established. 

     

    You are going all "fan-boy" over people for expressing their opinions just as this thread has invited them to do. They aren't going to return to GW2 after "seeing the light " based on your condescending replies. 

    Well to reply to your first question then it is, no, it's not heavies only. Sure there are still in the LFG "warrior zerk only exp player only" but many play in other ways aswell. In my guild we use a "healer" and 4 dps and we have completed everything so guess this works also. I have no problems with doing a dungeon in a random group with any of my chars and I don't have any zerkers anymore.

    RAngers and necros aren't the most popular professions in the game, ranger works since it can controll it's pet more but a necro with a minion master spec isn't that popular, I do play sometimes with mine in my guild even if they complain :)

    My favorite was my Dual Pistol Thief. I loved that play style. No one else did though. Never failed. I'd get........"You got a Warrior or a Guardian Alt?" Which, I did, but still.

    Dual pistol thief is the new heat in WvW roaming.

    Also people mostly love eles now. So I wouldn't say its just heavies. Also there are gear check assholes in every MMO.

    What you and every sane person need to do is find a good guild doing what you like and stick with them. I for example have an RP guild hosting RP events all over the place, a WvW guild with raids almost every day. 

    P.S: Downed system has nothing wrong with it. You just have to learn playing it on your side. 

    P.S: Also its worth nothing to mention that Gw2 has one of the best communities around so joining a WvW-heavy guild is not actually a hard thing to do. People will most likely be happy to get you in and even give you a build to play for your profession. Try it, they don't bite. 

  • dogusodoguso Member Posts: 3

    Perhaps have better customer service?  Besides the stupid strict password, Arenanet has horrid customer service, GW1 and GW2, for me.

     

    And within the first week of buying the product and playing about 2 days of those 7, Arenanet decided I was a gold seller and banned my account... twice.  And they're really god damn annoying to talk to to get it lifted, which oddly happens without a lot of "issues" or questions, which one would think if they banned your account.  Did they not have any evidence or queries which led them to banning the account?  Even if it was only a week old?

    Shite company, decent game.

  • BailoPan15BailoPan15 Member Posts: 410
    Originally posted by doguso

    Perhaps have better customer service?  Besides the stupid strict password, Arenanet has horrid customer service, GW1 and GW2, for me.

     

    And within the first week of buying the product and playing about 2 days of those 7, Arenanet decided I was a gold seller and banned my account... twice.  And they're really god damn annoying to talk to to get it lifted, which oddly happens without a lot of "issues" or questions, which one would think if they banned your account.  Did they not have any evidence or queries which led them to banning the account?  Even if it was only a week old?

    Shite company, decent game.

    There was a massive banhammer at launch because of some exploits and most importantly they didn't yet have two-way auth system and people using the same passwords for everything got seriously hacked and their accounts were being used for nefarious purposes including but not limited to gold sell. I suppose your account was one of the unlucky ones. You should've used a different password for a 60$ online game. Or when they unblocked your account, activated the two-way authentication. Its so sweet I can drop you my account name and password and you will still be unable to log into my account. In plain text. Awesome! 

  • dadante666dadante666 Member UncommonPosts: 402

    Anet is ignoring what all people are saying   i think if they heard a litter more the game would be the best ever cause the only thing missing is GVG and exapntion(real one)  new classes new weapon new zones new story.. nothign else

     

     

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