Originally posted by krea Am a founder myself but didnt have alot of time to try the game proper , did got my plot for house last night on a good spot realy happy with the game liking it alot outside the queu at start servers seem to be very stable and their are loads of players running around starting areas:)
ok so i think u are NA player because iam founder too and EU is so f**** up we dont have yours founder items dc every 10-15min long queues patrons dont have patron status and best one of them Authentication code problem waiting 8hours for that authentication code and nothing and they said we are working on it... yea in ur dreams trion they totally dont care about EU playerbase
Yes EU is pretty much down the drain. Got no founder items, tons of DC's, crazy queues, all land plots gone in about 4 hours when most people where waiting in those crazy queues.
Servers are cracking at the seams today again, my server seems to go down all the time....
Great going Trion!
They said on twitter that the servers face a major DDoS attack currently and they work stopping it. I hope that will solve your problems. I for one ... learned long ago not to play on launch day.
Played: Pretty much any fantasy MMO, some did not even make it to release ... Favorites: UO, EQ2, Vanguard, Wurm Online, Salem, ESO, Creativerse Playing: ESO, Creativerse, Guild Wars 2 Anticipating: (sigh) ... maybe Ashes of Creation
It's a rough launch, no way to sugar coat it, but I have seen worse.
I healthy round of compensations is in order, especially for those with the more expensive packs, some of which still haven't received what they paid for. As for land though, a wipe is not viable as plenty of people didn't have log in issues... A middle ground here must be found in either opening one new server per region or adding new land in places specifically reserved for those whom were negatively affected and ended up not receiving a house because of it.
Ridiculous and frivolous, Trion/XL seem to go down a dangerous path by thinking they can just take money for the packs and leave people IP Blocked.
Not to mention the level of instability in Archeage, bots, hacking, balance, spam, constant game/server/client crashing.Why release a game if its not protected from those issues.
Trion was a good company once, in the past.
Around 15+ people i know cant play this game, some play with major issues, and many more gave up, im personally IP Blocked for no reason as well as few of my friends randomly.
Your not the only one.People are getting more and more distressed becouse for some reason Glyph/Trion Support doesnt respond on tickets for weeks.If they have that many issues, why dont they postpone the release, like they should, and not go through with it and ruin that large of a playerbase game experience by making a gap between players even greater than they made with their P2W payment model, that was shock for everyone.
Yes, if labor was to regenerate offline, that would create endless accounts and botting, but it still doesnt explain why did they made 10x times the difference between CashShoppers and Free players, becouse as seen on forums, now its not even about the Free players, most CashShoppers go on a rampage becouse the payment model is making them lose more and more of money just to be able to play actively.
Total unbalance and chaos, it seems like Trion/XL is on a road to get as much as money possible before EQN/Black Desert Releases , becouse they know it will be their end.
As well as the disconnection issues a lot of people are having (myself included) there is also a glitch where people who didn't buy the Archium Founders packs are getting the items from that pack. And some are getting multiples of up to 15!
Example: A friend of mine has a Silver Founders Pack....he logged into the game and when he went to get his Silver founders pack, he found he had 2 of the Archium pack item crates (i.e. The Desert Armor, 6 Daru Chests and so on)
the problem with this...the Daru Chests have a chance to drop Gilda Stars (which is the currency used to by houses in the game). THIS is what enabled people to buy more then one house! Some players have up to 5 houses placed, which cost 75 Gilda stars (small houses cost 15 Gilda) which is impossible to get in 6 hours time by just following the Main quest line that gives them. If you follow the main quest line that rewards Guilda Stars you will only have 55 which is enough for a small house and Clipper (boat).
So we also have people exploiting a known glitch....I hope they get what's coming to them.
I had a ton of problems getting into the game yesterday, but eventually, I made it in and was able to play for over an hour. That said, several of my guildies NEVER got in, despite making frequent attempts during the entire time I was on with them in Vent (about 2 - 2.5 hours).
One poor girl had paid for the highest level subscription, $150, and she couldn't get logged in at all.
Now, somebody correct me if I'm wrong: Trion had posted on their forums that this was all due to a massive Denial of Service attack. Now, it seems to me:
a) They should have expected this and prepared for it.
b) I know a lot of big-time websites (such as Amazon, Google, any site that needs to do high-volume, fast transactions) would be running some Javascript-based modern webserver like Node.js, where one of its key promoted features is that it (as I understand it) seriously reduces a site's vulnerability to Denial of Service attacks (as it can handle 10x the number of transactions at 2x the speed over older technology)?
Now, true, that's for websites, but I would THINK that they'd be using something similar for logon servers and the load-balancing servers they're using? I just recall hearing that webservers like Node.js were going to make Denial of Service attacks a "thing of the past". ( And while I'm sure that's exaggerated, it just seems to tell me that the technology to resist this sort of thing is widely available, scalable, and cheap!)
Ridiculous and frivolous, Trion/XL seem to go down a dangerous path by thinking they can just take money for the packs and leave people IP Blocked.
Not to mention the level of instability in Archeage, bots, hacking, balance, spam, constant game/server/client crashing.Why release a game if its not protected from those issues.
Trion was a good company once, in the past.
Around 15+ people i know cant play this game, some play with major issues, and many more gave up, im personally IP Blocked for no reason as well as few of my friends randomly.
That's what you get when you put ZERO protection in your game and rely solely on third party programs like Hackshield, who are Notorious for NOT doing anything at all. They just stop stupid People trying generic hacks. That's it.
Every game is unique and different. People will find a way to bot, hack, cheat. A generic Third party program is not a solution to this. This has been proven time and again over the years with other online games.
Every single game I have seen that totally relies on a Third party program for cheat protection, ended up being hacked, botted, cheated the most! /shrug
Just another reason to stay far away from this game. :-/
Fun fact for anyone screaming and crying about the DDoS attack and how "they should be able to stop it":
Both the Department of Defense and Homeland Security have both been successful targets of a DDoS attack. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and safely guess they have more monetary and technical resources than Trion, yet they still got hit. Calm your tits and be patient. People are so damned entitled these days. "I want what I want and I want it NOW!"
Fun fact for anyone screaming and crying about the DDoS attack and how "they should be able to stop it":
Both the Department of Defense and Homeland Security have both been successful targets of a DDoS attack. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and safely guess they have more monetary and technical resources than Trion, yet they still got hit. Calm your tits and be patient. People are so damned entitled these days. "I want what I want and I want it NOW!"
Because there is no DDOS attack?
All their websites, forums and other games are up and running, except ArcheAge login and game servers and problems with Glyph.
Originally posted by pcletsplay almost all the land for houses & farms is basically gone, finding a spot is nearly impossible so i feel bad for new players that weren't in the headstart
This is like devs have come up with all sorts of instancing in the past years. I think this is going to hurt ArcheAge, not having instanced housing/farming. I realize that instances would ruin the game's economy, I just don't think people will accept the fact that they just cannot have something that somebody else has no matter what they do. That shit is for real life, not games.
Well only people who are used to getting everything handed to them in linear Themepark games will fill this. AA is a Sandbox it has limited resources and limited space. People who like Sandboxes DO what the Real life in their game. iIf you are looking for that instance gratifaction try LoTRs you can buy a house and be in a little area all alone with a few others. AA is Hardcore when it comes to land/resources/Trading/sailing/PVP it is NOT for the WoW give me EVERYTHING crowd. That is all.
Originally posted by pcletsplay almost all the land for houses & farms is basically gone, finding a spot is nearly impossible so i feel bad for new players that weren't in the headstart
This is like devs have come up with all sorts of instancing in the past years. I think this is going to hurt ArcheAge, not having instanced housing/farming. I realize that instances would ruin the game's economy, I just don't think people will accept the fact that they just cannot have something that somebody else has no matter what they do. That shit is for real life, not games.
Well only people who are used to getting everything handed to them in linear Themepark games will fill this. AA is a Sandbox it has limited resources and limited space. People who like Sandboxes DO what the Real life in their game. iIf you are looking for that instance gratifaction try LoTRs you can buy a house and be in a little area all alone with a few others. AA is Hardcore when it comes to land/resources/Trading/sailing/PVP it is NOT for the WoW give me EVERYTHING crowd. That is all.
Completely normal response. Not narrow-minded or elitists in the least.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Originally posted by pcletsplay almost all the land for houses & farms is basically gone, finding a spot is nearly impossible so i feel bad for new players that weren't in the headstart
This is like devs have come up with all sorts of instancing in the past years. I think this is going to hurt ArcheAge, not having instanced housing/farming. I realize that instances would ruin the game's economy, I just don't think people will accept the fact that they just cannot have something that somebody else has no matter what they do. That shit is for real life, not games.
Well only people who are used to getting everything handed to them in linear Themepark games will fill this. AA is a Sandbox it has limited resources and limited space. People who like Sandboxes DO what the Real life in their game. iIf you are looking for that instance gratifaction try LoTRs you can buy a house and be in a little area all alone with a few others. AA is Hardcore when it comes to land/resources/Trading/sailing/PVP it is NOT for the WoW give me EVERYTHING crowd. That is all.
Completely normal response. Not narrow-minded or elitists in the least.
The truth is the game has been known for 3+ years EVERYONE who followed it knew what would happen with land. From someone who plays EVE Iwould think you would see what I mean and not make a comment like that. I wasnt being narrow minded I was stating a fact . LoTRs is everything he wants. Give me Give me Give me.
Fun fact for anyone screaming and crying about the DDoS attack and how "they should be able to stop it":
Both the Department of Defense and Homeland Security have both been successful targets of a DDoS attack. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and safely guess they have more monetary and technical resources than Trion, yet they still got hit. Calm your tits and be patient. People are so damned entitled these days. "I want what I want and I want it NOW!"
Fun fact for anyone screaming and crying about the DDoS attack and how "they should be able to stop it":
Both the Department of Defense and Homeland Security have both been successful targets of a DDoS attack. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and safely guess they have more monetary and technical resources than Trion, yet they still got hit. Calm your tits and be patient. People are so damned entitled these days. "I want what I want and I want it NOW!"
They are not suffering a DDoS attack.. lol
You know that checking whether there is a DDoS is very easy? So either you are too lazy to do so, or just like spouting crap.
Originally posted by pcletsplay almost all the land for houses & farms is basically gone, finding a spot is nearly impossible so i feel bad for new players that weren't in the headstart
This is like devs have come up with all sorts of instancing in the past years. I think this is going to hurt ArcheAge, not having instanced housing/farming. I realize that instances would ruin the game's economy, I just don't think people will accept the fact that they just cannot have something that somebody else has no matter what they do. That shit is for real life, not games.
Yeah these days if I don't get in beta, or if there's some expensive collector's edition, I just don't buy the game. I'm getting a little old, and if I start behind , I stay behind and if you don't get in on the easy pickings before they make things hard ( they judge "too easy" on beta players which have far more time ) you're out of luck.
Originally posted by pcletsplay almost all the land for houses & farms is basically gone, finding a spot is nearly impossible so i feel bad for new players that weren't in the headstart
This is like devs have come up with all sorts of instancing in the past years. I think this is going to hurt ArcheAge, not having instanced housing/farming. I realize that instances would ruin the game's economy, I just don't think people will accept the fact that they just cannot have something that somebody else has no matter what they do. That shit is for real life, not games.
If you had played Star Wars Galaxies which had OPEN player housing and not instanced, you would know that player housing does not need to be instanced, and is much more fun that being instanced. Folks will just need to look for a spot that is not exactly what they wanted. and then wait until areas become open because they are lost for not paying taxes.
8 hours to occupy all land available?....kind of ridiculous
i mean why not just assign you a plot of land as soon as you have finished the tutorial? why have to farm for a whole 8 hours?....gimme a break.
a permanent in game house should be something that takes months of gameplay to acquire. at minimum you should be at level cap.....8 hours.....lol
to everyone without land, do not worry, Trion will just add more servers to satisfy everyone's land needs. i still can't see how a game that gives you a house in 8 hours of gameplay has any lasting appeal.....within 50 hours of gameplay you'll be bored as hell.
If you had played Star Wars Galaxies which had OPEN player housing and not instanced, you would know that player housing does not need to be instanced, and is much more fun that being instanced. Folks will just need to look for a spot that is not exactly what they wanted. and then wait until areas become open because they are lost for not paying taxes.
Isn't the real difference here that SWG had A FRICKING LOT of space. Sure spots near cities might be taken, but overall there was never a problem finding spots, even sufficiently larger for player cities. SWG space was most definitely not used within hours
That said, open world housing is way better than instanced stuff. I thought I'd like Wildstar housing but it really isn't the same when you have your own personal floating island. It removes a lot of what made it fun.
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They said on twitter that the servers face a major DDoS attack currently and they work stopping it. I hope that will solve your problems. I for one ... learned long ago not to play on launch day.
Played: Pretty much any fantasy MMO, some did not even make it to release ...
Favorites: UO, EQ2, Vanguard, Wurm Online, Salem, ESO, Creativerse
Playing: ESO, Creativerse, Guild Wars 2
Anticipating: (sigh) ... maybe Ashes of Creation
It's a rough launch, no way to sugar coat it, but I have seen worse.
I healthy round of compensations is in order, especially for those with the more expensive packs, some of which still haven't received what they paid for. As for land though, a wipe is not viable as plenty of people didn't have log in issues... A middle ground here must be found in either opening one new server per region or adding new land in places specifically reserved for those whom were negatively affected and ended up not receiving a house because of it.
Ridiculous and frivolous, Trion/XL seem to go down a dangerous path by thinking they can just take money for the packs and leave people IP Blocked.
Not to mention the level of instability in Archeage, bots, hacking, balance, spam, constant game/server/client crashing.Why release a game if its not protected from those issues.
Trion was a good company once, in the past.
Around 15+ people i know cant play this game, some play with major issues, and many more gave up, im personally IP Blocked for no reason as well as few of my friends randomly.
Your not the only one.People are getting more and more distressed becouse for some reason Glyph/Trion Support doesnt respond on tickets for weeks.If they have that many issues, why dont they postpone the release, like they should, and not go through with it and ruin that large of a playerbase game experience by making a gap between players even greater than they made with their P2W payment model, that was shock for everyone.
Yes, if labor was to regenerate offline, that would create endless accounts and botting, but it still doesnt explain why did they made 10x times the difference between CashShoppers and Free players, becouse as seen on forums, now its not even about the Free players, most CashShoppers go on a rampage becouse the payment model is making them lose more and more of money just to be able to play actively.
Total unbalance and chaos, it seems like Trion/XL is on a road to get as much as money possible before EQN/Black Desert Releases , becouse they know it will be their end.
As well as the disconnection issues a lot of people are having (myself included) there is also a glitch where people who didn't buy the Archium Founders packs are getting the items from that pack. And some are getting multiples of up to 15!
Example: A friend of mine has a Silver Founders Pack....he logged into the game and when he went to get his Silver founders pack, he found he had 2 of the Archium pack item crates (i.e. The Desert Armor, 6 Daru Chests and so on)
the problem with this...the Daru Chests have a chance to drop Gilda Stars (which is the currency used to by houses in the game). THIS is what enabled people to buy more then one house! Some players have up to 5 houses placed, which cost 75 Gilda stars (small houses cost 15 Gilda) which is impossible to get in 6 hours time by just following the Main quest line that gives them. If you follow the main quest line that rewards Guilda Stars you will only have 55 which is enough for a small house and Clipper (boat).
So we also have people exploiting a known glitch....I hope they get what's coming to them.
I had a ton of problems getting into the game yesterday, but eventually, I made it in and was able to play for over an hour. That said, several of my guildies NEVER got in, despite making frequent attempts during the entire time I was on with them in Vent (about 2 - 2.5 hours).
One poor girl had paid for the highest level subscription, $150, and she couldn't get logged in at all.
Now, somebody correct me if I'm wrong: Trion had posted on their forums that this was all due to a massive Denial of Service attack. Now, it seems to me:
a) They should have expected this and prepared for it.
b) I know a lot of big-time websites (such as Amazon, Google, any site that needs to do high-volume, fast transactions) would be running some Javascript-based modern webserver like Node.js, where one of its key promoted features is that it (as I understand it) seriously reduces a site's vulnerability to Denial of Service attacks (as it can handle 10x the number of transactions at 2x the speed over older technology)?
Now, true, that's for websites, but I would THINK that they'd be using something similar for logon servers and the load-balancing servers they're using? I just recall hearing that webservers like Node.js were going to make Denial of Service attacks a "thing of the past". ( And while I'm sure that's exaggerated, it just seems to tell me that the technology to resist this sort of thing is widely available, scalable, and cheap!)
Thanks!
That's what you get when you put ZERO protection in your game and rely solely on third party programs like Hackshield, who are Notorious for NOT doing anything at all. They just stop stupid People trying generic hacks. That's it.
Every game is unique and different. People will find a way to bot, hack, cheat. A generic Third party program is not a solution to this. This has been proven time and again over the years with other online games.
Every single game I have seen that totally relies on a Third party program for cheat protection, ended up being hacked, botted, cheated the most! /shrug
Just another reason to stay far away from this game. :-/
Fun fact for anyone screaming and crying about the DDoS attack and how "they should be able to stop it":
Both the Department of Defense and Homeland Security have both been successful targets of a DDoS attack. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and safely guess they have more monetary and technical resources than Trion, yet they still got hit. Calm your tits and be patient. People are so damned entitled these days. "I want what I want and I want it NOW!"
Because there is no DDOS attack?
All their websites, forums and other games are up and running, except ArcheAge login and game servers and problems with Glyph.
Well only people who are used to getting everything handed to them in linear Themepark games will fill this. AA is a Sandbox it has limited resources and limited space. People who like Sandboxes DO what the Real life in their game. iIf you are looking for that instance gratifaction try LoTRs you can buy a house and be in a little area all alone with a few others. AA is Hardcore when it comes to land/resources/Trading/sailing/PVP it is NOT for the WoW give me EVERYTHING crowd. That is all.
Completely normal response. Not narrow-minded or elitists in the least.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
The truth is the game has been known for 3+ years EVERYONE who followed it knew what would happen with land. From someone who plays EVE Iwould think you would see what I mean and not make a comment like that. I wasnt being narrow minded I was stating a fact . LoTRs is everything he wants. Give me Give me Give me.
They are not suffering a DDoS attack.. lol
You know that checking whether there is a DDoS is very easy? So either you are too lazy to do so, or just like spouting crap.
Yeah these days if I don't get in beta, or if there's some expensive collector's edition, I just don't buy the game. I'm getting a little old, and if I start behind , I stay behind and if you don't get in on the easy pickings before they make things hard ( they judge "too easy" on beta players which have far more time ) you're out of luck.
If you had played Star Wars Galaxies which had OPEN player housing and not instanced, you would know that player housing does not need to be instanced, and is much more fun that being instanced. Folks will just need to look for a spot that is not exactly what they wanted. and then wait until areas become open because they are lost for not paying taxes.
8 hours to occupy all land available?....kind of ridiculous
i mean why not just assign you a plot of land as soon as you have finished the tutorial? why have to farm for a whole 8 hours?....gimme a break.
a permanent in game house should be something that takes months of gameplay to acquire. at minimum you should be at level cap.....8 hours.....lol
to everyone without land, do not worry, Trion will just add more servers to satisfy everyone's land needs. i still can't see how a game that gives you a house in 8 hours of gameplay has any lasting appeal.....within 50 hours of gameplay you'll be bored as hell.
Isn't the real difference here that SWG had A FRICKING LOT of space. Sure spots near cities might be taken, but overall there was never a problem finding spots, even sufficiently larger for player cities. SWG space was most definitely not used within hours
That said, open world housing is way better than instanced stuff. I thought I'd like Wildstar housing but it really isn't the same when you have your own personal floating island. It removes a lot of what made it fun.