I was talking about carbine by the way but ncsoft got the upper hand , yet again carbine stated that 4-5 times what they expected at launch and they stated 450k at launch that means if they are over 100k , they are fine , they also stated that they want to start low and gradually increasing as time passes with no hype which was obviously the agreement both carbine and ncsoft agreed upon ....ps I got a link too just in case you start raging .
Originally posted by V_i_O Maybe that is why they are making megaservers ? But then again it is a niche mmo where a small hardcore qualified community far better and does matter for them than a large quantified community with no quality.
Dodging giant red shit on the ground and completing mindless, busy work attunement quests does not a "hardcore" game make. You can keep insisting it does. Having done a good deal of the raiding in this game before I got bored, I can tell you this game's pve endgame is barely as hard as WoW's normal modes, and the pvp is a joke of spamming telegraphs in a zerg. But you are the same guy on EVERY Wildstar post, espousing how hardcore and super duper special this game is. You've basically graduated from fanboi to sycophant.
And you are the same guy who always reply to me in every post, gratz you graduated from a whiner into a hater and sorry had to laugh on this " this game's pve is barly hard as wow's normal mode" haha you are hilarious, who are you trying to fool here me ? Or the community ? OR YOURSELF ?
Originally posted by V_i_O And you are the same guy who always reply to me in every post, gratz you graduated from a whiner into a hater and sorry had to laugh on this " this game's pve is barly hard as wow's normal mode" haha you are hilarious, who are you trying to fool here me ? Or the community ? OR YOURSELF ?
What is even more hilarious is talking about the red telegraphs where you need to aim and dodge as mindless while you forgot that wow got a spammable , mindless, tab targetting combat where you can hit your target while giving him you back LOL . An advice stay away of wildstar threads wow fanboy , this game is not for you and it is far beyond your slow reflexes.
Originally posted by V_i_O What is even more hilarious is talking about the red telegraphs where you need to aim and dodge as mindless while you forgot that wow got a spammable , mindless, tab targetting combat where you can hit your target while giving him you back LOL . An advice stay away of wildstar threads wow fanboy , this game is not for you and it is far beyond your slow reflexes.
Originally posted by V_i_O What is even more hilarious is talking about the red telegraphs where you need to aim and dodge as mindless while you forgot that wow got a spammable , mindless, tab targetting combat where you can hit your target while giving him you back LOL . An advice stay away of wildstar threads wow fanboy , this game is not for you and it is far beyond your slow reflexes.
Originally posted by V_i_O What is even more hilarious is talking about the red telegraphs where you need to aim and dodge as mindless while you forgot that wow got a spammable , mindless, tab targetting combat where you can hit your target while giving him you back LOL . An advice stay away of wildstar threads wow fanboy , this game is not for you and it is far beyond your slow reflexes.
Who are you talking to?
Obviously to that guy named ganksinatra
Talking of which, 'my way' is quite a fitting tribute to this game.
Originally posted by V_i_O I was talking about carbine by the way but ncsoft got the upper hand , yet again carbine stated that 4-5 times what they expected at launch and they stated 450k at launch that means if they are over 100k , they are fine , they also stated that they want to start low and gradually increasing as time passes with no hype which was obviously the agreement both carbine and ncsoft agreed upon ....ps I got a link too just in case you start raging .
450K at launch? Over 100K currently playing ? Keep deluding yourself. EU realms are ALL ghost towns as we speak. #2 progress guild worldwide (Voodoo) called it quits a few days ago.
Originally posted by V_i_O I was talking about carbine by the way but ncsoft got the upper hand , yet again carbine stated that 4-5 times what they expected at launch and they stated 450k at launch that means if they are over 100k , they are fine , they also stated that they want to start low and gradually increasing as time passes with no hype which was obviously the agreement both carbine and ncsoft agreed upon ....ps I got a link too just in case you start raging .
450K at launch? Over 100K currently playing ? Keep deluding yourself. EU realms are ALL ghost towns as we speak. #2 progress guild worldwide (Voodoo) called it quits a few days ago.
It's time for you to perform a reality check.
True they called they will quit but you still have enigma and eugenic guilds , in the matter of fact there is still 30 top progress guilds other than voodoo and 100k is the total of both na and eu not eu only you need to start getting facts in your life and stop talking about delusions while you are living in it yourself. In addition to that mega servers haven't arrived yet.
Originally posted by V_i_O I was talking about carbine by the way but ncsoft got the upper hand , yet again carbine stated that 4-5 times what they expected at launch and they stated 450k at launch that means if they are over 100k , they are fine , they also stated that they want to start low and gradually increasing as time passes with no hype which was obviously the agreement both carbine and ncsoft agreed upon ....ps I got a link too just in case you start raging .
450K at launch? Over 100K currently playing ? Keep deluding yourself. EU realms are ALL ghost towns as we speak. #2 progress guild worldwide (Voodoo) called it quits a few days ago.
It's time for you to perform a reality check.
True they called they will quit but you still have enigma and eugenic guilds , in the matter of fact there is still 30 top progress guilds other than voodoo and 100k is the total of both na and eu not eu only you need to start getting facts in your life and stop talking about delusions while you are living in it yourself. In addition to that mega servers haven't arrived yet.
30 top (!!) progress guilds you say ? With Voodoo gone there are only THREE 40man raiding guilds left to compete worldwide. Have a good look at these figures.
Originally posted by V_i_O When I said progress I ment for both 20 & 40 not 40 only
Vio, I do not mean to be rude (which phrase obviously means I intend to be rude), but, when you are too invested in a subject people no longer take you or your opinions seriously.
Originally posted by V_i_O When I said progress I ment for both 20 & 40 not 40 only
The problem with looking at it like that is it ignores that 40 man is the only progression past a certain point. (which is one of Wildstar's current fundamental flaws. There's a reason why they describe that point of progression "like hitting a brick wall". And once you've hit a brick wall, you're not progressing any more by definition. Since that's what hitting a brick wall means in the first place)
Well it was obvious when they said that raid are hardcore and not any guild can progress in raids specially 40men it isn't for noobs or casuals. Here is also another piece of info you don't know carbine banned exploit users for a week , obviously they don't care about large quantaties that much more than a clean small bug/exploit/bot free community and again 100k for them is what they expected.
Originally posted by V_i_O When I said progress I ment for both 20 & 40 not 40 only
Vio, I do not mean to be rude (which phrase obviously means I intend to be rude), but, when you are too invested in a subject people no longer take you or your opinions seriously.
Here is where you started to be rude just right here, don't talk about people ,OBVIOUSLY you are not the people nor you are the one to judge whether that people take it seriously or not , just talk about yourself and stick to that , each and everyone can speak for himself. I don't intend to be rude too anyways . But , it is all about facts whether I am too invested or not or whether you take me seriously or not , it is simply facts speaking and not my opinions whether you like or not. And at some point who knows the game might do something stupid that I might not like but will accept it as a fact. Hope you understand my point.
Originally posted by V_i_O Well it was obvious when they said that raid are hardcore and not any guild can progress in raids specially 40men it isn't for noobs or casuals. Here is also another piece of info you don't know carbine banned exploit users for a week , obviously they don't care about large quantaties that much more than a clean small bug/exploit/bot free community and again 100k for them is what they expected.
So you are saying that Carbine is ok with the fact that at the moment there are only 3 guilds doing 40 man content worldwide ? Because that' what the numbers show. And 16 guilds doing the 20 man raids, again worldwide. A grand total of 19 - 20 guilds. And still you argue that these are healthy numbers for a heavy PvE oriented MMO.
Let me give you an example. On WoW's Stormscale (EU) server alone there are 12 guilds who have cleared the heroic content. Just on one realm.
I don't know what Carbine did or did not expect but there is no way that WS has 100K subs as we speak. All EU realms with maybe the exception of Hazak are empty. Furthermore, the one who gets to say how many subscriptions are ok or not isn't Carbine. It's NCSoft. Why? Because they are the ones paying the bills.
You comparing wow that got 7 mil subs for wildstar that got 100k?????!!!?! . PLEASE WAKE UP. In the matter of fact only 12 guild in only one realm that is pretty low for a multi million people game .And again you are talking about eu ONLY , eu +na = more than 100k as we speak
Originally posted by V_i_O obviously they don't care about large quantaties that much more than a clean small bug/exploit/bot free community again 100k for them is what they expected.
.................um, oooooookay?
....more seriously, you are apparently not aware that NCSoft PUBLICALLY (as required by law) stated that they had to lower their forecasted revenues from Wildstar, right? Which means that whatever amount of players they have now is certainly indisputably NOT what they expected (because expectations are what a forecast IS)
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Dodging giant red shit on the ground and completing mindless, busy work attunement quests does not a "hardcore" game make. You can keep insisting it does. Having done a good deal of the raiding in this game before I got bored, I can tell you this game's pve endgame is barely as hard as WoW's normal modes, and the pvp is a joke of spamming telegraphs in a zerg. But you are the same guy on EVERY Wildstar post, espousing how hardcore and super duper special this game is. You've basically graduated from fanboi to sycophant.
Yeah, think about it.
Who are you talking to?
Obviously to that guy named ganksinatra
Talking of which, 'my way' is quite a fitting tribute to this game.
450K at launch? Over 100K currently playing ? Keep deluding yourself. EU realms are ALL ghost towns as we speak. #2 progress guild worldwide (Voodoo) called it quits a few days ago.
It's time for you to perform a reality check.
True they called they will quit but you still have enigma and eugenic guilds , in the matter of fact there is still 30 top progress guilds other than voodoo and 100k is the total of both na and eu not eu only you need to start getting facts in your life and stop talking about delusions while you are living in it yourself. In addition to that mega servers haven't arrived yet.
http://www.wildstar-progress.com/
30 top (!!) progress guilds you say ? With Voodoo gone there are only THREE 40man raiding guilds left to compete worldwide. Have a good look at these figures.
Vio, I do not mean to be rude (which phrase obviously means I intend to be rude), but, when you are too invested in a subject people no longer take you or your opinions seriously.
The problem with looking at it like that is it ignores that 40 man is the only progression past a certain point. (which is one of Wildstar's current fundamental flaws. There's a reason why they describe that point of progression "like hitting a brick wall". And once you've hit a brick wall, you're not progressing any more by definition. Since that's what hitting a brick wall means in the first place)
Here is where you started to be rude just right here, don't talk about people ,OBVIOUSLY you are not the people nor you are the one to judge whether that people take it seriously or not , just talk about yourself and stick to that , each and everyone can speak for himself. I don't intend to be rude too anyways . But , it is all about facts whether I am too invested or not or whether you take me seriously or not , it is simply facts speaking and not my opinions whether you like or not. And at some point who knows the game might do something stupid that I might not like but will accept it as a fact. Hope you understand my point.
So you are saying that Carbine is ok with the fact that at the moment there are only 3 guilds doing 40 man content worldwide ? Because that' what the numbers show. And 16 guilds doing the 20 man raids, again worldwide. A grand total of 19 - 20 guilds. And still you argue that these are healthy numbers for a heavy PvE oriented MMO.
Let me give you an example. On WoW's Stormscale (EU) server alone there are 12 guilds who have cleared the heroic content. Just on one realm.
I don't know what Carbine did or did not expect but there is no way that WS has 100K subs as we speak. All EU realms with maybe the exception of Hazak are empty. Furthermore, the one who gets to say how many subscriptions are ok or not isn't Carbine. It's NCSoft. Why? Because they are the ones paying the bills.
.................um, oooooookay?
....more seriously, you are apparently not aware that NCSoft PUBLICALLY (as required by law) stated that they had to lower their forecasted revenues from Wildstar, right? Which means that whatever amount of players they have now is certainly indisputably NOT what they expected (because expectations are what a forecast IS)