Best P2P WOW:WoD, best F2P ArcheAge?

Kopogero

Or is there something out there I might be missing? I have to decide and decide quick between forking $40 + $15 and additional $15 each month for WOW;WoD or use these 2 months to find a worthy F2P character progression game to play.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

Ender4

Archeage is a pretty awful game, people just haven't realized it yet. NO end game, piss poor PvE, mediocre PvP that is thrust on you so the carebear crowd will hate it. I expect most servers to be ghost worlds in under 3 months to be honest.

MMOGamer71

Originally posted by Kopogero

Or is there something out there I might be missing? I have to decide and decide quick between forking $40 + $15 and additional $15 each month for WOW;WoD or use these 2 months to find a worthy F2P character progression game to play.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

All depend on what you like in a game.  My favorite games are higher rated but less played MMO's like LoTRO.

thinktank001

Originally posted by Kopogero

Or is there something out there I might be missing? I have to decide and decide quick between forking $40 + $15 and additional $15 each month for WOW;WoD or use these 2 months to find a worthy F2P character progression game to play.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

 

Good luck playing AA as a non patron.    I would not wish that on anybody.   If you are looking strictly for character progression, then why not try POE.   It isn't an MMO, but I am pretty sure you will keep you busy till WOW.

Mivi

if you really like wow play it and explore all the new content. after you have finished it, you will then be able to log on queueage whitout much problems

darkhalf357x

Originally posted by Ender4

Archeage is a pretty awful game, people just haven't realized it yet. NO end game, piss poor PvE, mediocre PvP that is thrust on you so the carebear crowd will hate it. I expect most servers to be ghost worlds in under 3 months to be honest.

Too much hyperbole.  AA is not a game for everyone and requires patience to enjoy its finer aspects.  It's not a PvE game and was never advertised as such.  PvP is part of the game that is best experienced with a guild.  This is not a solo game but nothing stops you from trying.  Those who don't like it can walk away free of charge.  Empty servers is a problem they don't have and working through painfully how to keep it that way.

Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

 

rodingo

Well out of the current lot of MMOs that charge subs WoW is probably the safest bet.  Mainly because the gameplay is mostly solid/stable and Blizzard knows how to manage their game a lot better than these newer games coming out.  As far as f2p, I don't think AA can claim being the best at anything now.  Not until they get out of their launch woes first.  However, if you like WoW but want f2p then why not Rift?  Unless you have already tried it of course.  Rift seems to have a pretty good f2p model and the gameplay is similar to WoW as far as quest hubs, instanced dungeons, raids, gear grind, and pvp BGs, etc.

Albatroes

Best F2P MODEL is rift.

Dibdabs

AA isn't a great game, and you can see ample evidence on the official forums.  I know it's routine for new F2P games to get a lot of bile on their own forums, but in this instance it's a whole new level of bile.  The bile is even coming from Founders, and that crowd usually staunchly defend their game against all comers, at least for the first 3 or 4 months.

I've subbed for a month, which is what i usually do, so I'll see how it goes.  It's screaming "generic Korean grinder" to me at the moment...

Kazuhiro

Originally posted by Ender4

Archeage is a pretty awful game, people just haven't realized it yet. NO end game, piss poor PvE, mediocre PvP that is thrust on you so the carebear crowd will hate it. I expect most servers to be ghost worlds in under 3 months to be honest.

 

Pretty much this in a nutshell, the ONLY good aspect of the game is naval warfare, but honestly that's only considered "good" because it's the only mmo that has done it with you being a crewmember and not the damn ship itself, it could easily be done better.

TiamatRoar

Archeage is F2T (free-to-try) in practice.  A huge chunk of the game system (housing, farming) is locked out if you aren't a patron.  In addition, the disadvantages to being a free player are so huge that by the end game, in a gear-based open world pvp game, you'll be simply fodder no matter how much you play (considering that all the playtime in the world won't get you more labor points to do things with as a nonpatron noncasher)

Kopogero

Originally posted by TiamatRoar
Archeage is F2T (free-to-try) in practice.  A huge chunk of the game system (housing, farming) is locked out if you aren't a patron.  In addition, the disadvantages to being a free player are so huge that by the end game, in a gear-based open world pvp game, you'll be simply fodder no matter how much you play (considering that all the playtime in the world won't get you more labor points to do things with as a nonpatron noncasher)

I consider ArcheAge the best F2P MMO since the majority (80-90%) of it's playerbase will be/remain F2P. It's crystal clear already that ArcheAge is far from the best P2P MMORPG now or in near future. It's endgame is also based around PvP, which makes it ideal F2P MMORPG. The content dependant, PvE F2P MMO's like Rift don't even come close since their content updates take far too long in between. Losing from 10-20% of the playerbase in PvP activities is something I can live with over shelling $.

Some of the posters here are welcome to disagree that WOW:WoD is not the best P2P MMORPG on the market. The fact they felt short afterwards to mention other MMO's thats supposedly better and can offer/bring more what WOW just convinces and proves me further of my options right now.

TiamatRoar

Originally posted by Kopogero

Originally posted by TiamatRoar
Archeage is F2T (free-to-try) in practice.  A huge chunk of the game system (housing, farming) is locked out if you aren't a patron.  In addition, the disadvantages to being a free player are so huge that by the end game, in a gear-based open world pvp game, you'll be simply fodder no matter how much you play (considering that all the playtime in the world won't get you more labor points to do things with as a nonpatron noncasher)

I consider ArcheAge the best F2P MMO since the majority (80-90%) of it's playerbase will be/remain F2P.

Curious.  Is there a basis for that statement?

hayes303

With the limits on f2p archeage accounts, I can't see anyone playing it that way long term. It would be like playing a facebook game.

Varex12

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

 

Except for the fact that WoW players generally migrate to other newly released games, and keep coming back to WoW.  So your opinion that they "don't know any better" really doesn't hold water, since many WoW players have actually tested other games and have not found the grass greener on the other side.  

Kopogero

Originally posted by hayes303
With the limits on f2p archeage accounts, I can't see anyone playing it that way long term. It would be like playing a facebook game.

What limits specifically? As a F2P I believe I can still enjoy all of the ArcheAge combat, graphics, PvP system and so forth. After all that's what the game is about - PvP. On top it will be a new experience/adventure.

You got better F2P MMO's to suggess that truly feels engaging in a persistant world with the community?

Amjoco

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

 

Thanks Dr Phill for letting us know what is best for us!

I would think WoW is still one of the best games still out. It is pretty balanced, has the most content, and still has a huge social community. 

Thane

hm, f2p i'd crown aion atm actually.

pantaro

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

 

Thanks for saving me the trouble of saying it haha

maji

How can ArcheAge be the best F2P game, if you can't do anything that's fun if you don't pay. And if ArcheAge is only fun if you pay, how can it be a F2P game?

maji

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

Well, apart from the huge amounts of content, the replayability, and the multi million playerbase.

doodphace

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

 

Yup....people only play WoW because they know no better....give this man a hand...

/golfclaps

rojoArcueid

Originally posted by Kopogero

Or is there something out there I might be missing? I have to decide and decide quick between forking $40 + $15 and additional $15 each month for WOW;WoD or use these 2 months to find a worthy F2P character progression game to play.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

ArcheAge is not the best F2P mmorpg. Why? because the F2P part has a heavy restriction (housing/land). If you have to subscribe to get the most out of the game then its not a good F2P game.

 

As for the question in the title, its more opinion based. To me WoW is the best sub based, GW2 is the best B2P, and there is no best F2P at the moment because either they have f2p restrictions or p2w or too much grind as a f2p, none of the F2Ps out there are balanced at the moment.

 

And profit wise, obviously WoW again as P2P, GW2 as B2P (very few mmorpgs are B2P and the other ones are not as profitable as GW2, second most profitable mmorpg from NCSOFT after Lineage 1), and again as for F2P none has set a good balance. Most profit out of player limitations or p2w.

alyndale

Archeage is definitely NOT the best free to play as is abundantly been seen in the past week and a half.

Alyn

Thane

Originally posted by doodphace

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

There is nothing best about WOW anymore so stop trying to push it. It does what it always has....keeping player sucked in. Not cause it's better, cause they know no better.

 

 

Yup....people only play WoW because they know no better....give this man a hand...

/golfclaps

i don't think they got your sarcasm there