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Archeage is a REAL MMO- my favorite thing about it
holdenhamlet
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I am loving this game. Probably my favorite thing about it is IT'S A REAL MMO. Meaning, it's Massively Multiplayer, and you can feel it when you play.
Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, you're likely to be around other people.
This is drastically different than most MMOs who typically only have many people around loitering in big cities waiting for queues to pop.
Having meaningful open world PVP and non-instanced farming is a stroke of genius. It means people will be all over the virtual world (even the beginning areas thanks to the farming and the turn-in points for trade-packs).
My favorite game before this was FFXI, and the reason it was my favorite (besides being my first MMO) is that you were always playing WITH PEOPLE. It NEVER felt like a solo game with a chat room, like so many MMOs usually do.
However, FFXI achieved this (when I played) with forced grouping. Archeage acheives it with non-instanced farming in the open world, meaningful open world pvp, and things like trade-runs, which is actually better than forced grouping because the player retains the freedom to do what they want, while still being able to play with tons of people and have the user-interaction experiences which are really the whole reason MMOs exist.
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Anyway, have you even tried the game? If you've played for any substantial amount of time, do you disagree that there's people everywhere, and that this is different from basically every other MMO?
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I'm glad you are enjoying the game. I wish I could say the same...quit yesterday...the game just doesn't have much soul to it...sure the boat riding is fun, but other than that it's one big grind regardless of what you are doing.
Im not a fan of PVP though, so that could be the reason Im not enjoying it as much as others.
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Coming from Neverwinter which was basically all about AFKing in Protector's Enclave until a queue popped, it sure felt like an imaginary MMO.
Most MMOs are basically just lobby games, where the lobby happens to be the big city in a world you can afk in. They're more like a single player game with a chat box and OCCASIONAL multiplayer experience, about as much as you'd get from the online version of a single player game.
Hell, Chivalry felt more like an MMO than most MMOs I've played. At least you're constantly playing with other people, even if it is just a lobby game.
I agree with OP... This is one of the few MMOs that feels truly massive these days. I am almost 45 and while I hate my leveling being slowed down due to ganking, there is something exhilarating about questing in a zone during war time.
I have also been part of some cross seas trade runs which is super fun! Love this game will be playing for some time!
P.S. - after playing WoW for almost 8 1/2 years there is something cool about having to venture out in the world to get stuff done. Whether it is a trade run, war raid, gilda farming, etc. This is not a game where you can run laps around the trade district and wait for your queue to pop. By the way vanilla wow and TBC were much like this as well, before dungeon finder, raid finder, battlegrounds, arena etc.
lol, nice try for a baby troll. Those of us who have been on these forums for a while know of holdenhamlet. We have seen him post on other games. You on the other hand are a two post nobody. Regardless if we agree with Holden or not, he at least has earned the right to be heard.
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He's been on these forums for years before Trion even released Rift. Saying good things about the games he's liked.
So really? That's your first response to his excitement over the game?
Because, if one was to infer the same logic to your response one could equally say that you work for an opposing game company wanting to discredit the game.
See what can be done there?
Glad you are liking it HoldenH. I would offer that it is a new release with a lot of people trying to get into the game therefore at some point the lower level areas are probably going to be less packed and new players at that point might notice that there isn't anyone around.
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I just started playing today. Saw a few people running around while I was questing.
Only got to level 5 but that's because my brother also plays and he's only level 3 and I want to try to level with him some.
But I think I can have fun with this game, it's a little different it seems from GW2 and WoW. Maybe I will sub one day if I have the funds and start a farm, but who knows.
Or maybe I could convince one of my friends to sub and leech off them mwahahaha (j/k).
This could end up being very interesting.
What I dont understand is how people are saying they have seen this before and there is nothing new about it lol this game is full of inventive ideas. This game dials back to the roots of what an MMO should be not these Lobby single player with multiplayer option games like WoW or destiny. The funny thing is I feel this game has taken the best aspects that people enjoy like WoW's combat but made it faster with more class options and added so much new stuff like pirating and a Law system. I mean I think most of us can agree that twitch combat is not the future of MMo's and these guys addapted the best of both worlds. WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN WAN'T I would really be interested to hear. And this game is P2W come on people now your just talking S***.
I hope you understand the game just came out and you still have que's.
WildStar was the exact same way..tell me how lively things are in a few months. What makes things real bad for AA is if the server becomes a ghost town, mergers really are not an option and because it's so player driven...it's basically a snowball effect.
But overall, good game, my girlfriend is addicted to it. But hey, no game can cater for everyone. But if the reason your playing is the population, enjoy it while you can. An if it continues to grow instead, then enjoy it for years to come.
Lol People posting that lame "its a real mmo" Crack me up. Its such a average game to me. Got a character to lvl 20 and got bored with it. To me its shows what a sad state the mmo genre is in if this is "a real mmo" We will have to see hows its doing 4 or 5 months from now. These same people were saying the same thing about Wildstar remember . Its ok op if you found a game you really like but come on. Glad you are having fun with it. Do you think you will be playing it a year from now?
New MMOs are always filled with people. Wait a few months and come back.
Once you hit end game, things start to thin out and if you are going for a ship owning pirate you can go hours on the seas without seeing a single person. Besides, there are already complaints on the main forums about how Trion took too long to fix the AFKers and drove away too many players because the population plummeted on some servers.
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It is meaningful in Archeage. There are open world zone pvp events with huge battles going on, and also intercontinental trade runs often turn into wars. There is a reason for open world pvp in this game- it's profitable, much like the open world pvp in sandbox games.
--I would offer that it is a new release with a lot of people trying to get into the game therefore at some point the lower level areas are probably going to be less packed and new players at that point might notice that there isn't anyone around.--
That's the genius thing about having trade in points for trade runs in the early zones and having farms in the early safe zones. People will always be there either tending their farm, turning in trade packs, or waiting for someone to come to try to gank them for their pack.
--Do you think you will be playing it a year from now?--
Yeah definitely. More so than any other MMO I've played in years.
Besides all the stuff I have to do now, they're going to open up the third continent in a few months which will allow castle owning/seiging.
--If you play and mmo like a lobby game then it will feel like a lobby game. I never hung out in PE afk-ing for a queue. I got out into the world and do adventures and quests and see people all the time, just like I do in most MMOs. To say that AA feels like an mmo because you see people out in the world, but another mmo doesn't because you sat in town all day is pretty silly. I bet if you sit in town all day in AA all you'll see are people in town.--
Oh yeah, the dailies. I forgot about the horrible dailies. Yes, most MMOs have them and they are basically the only reason to ever leave the main city.
Besides those, in Neverwinter especially, there was no reason to leave PE.
In Archeage, here's some of the things you can do in the open world that have nothing to do with dailies or quests:
1. Run a domestic trade run- get some gold, mostly safe unless passing through zones at war
2. Run an intercontinental trade run- usually very dangerous and best to do with a big group. More profitible though.
3. Work your farm/craft
4. Try to steal packs from people, either in PVP zones or at sea or near a trade-in point
5. Participate in a zone-wide pvp battle
6. Ride around looking for illegal tree farms to steal
And yes, Archeage has a few dailies and dungeons to do as well if you're so inclined.
This is more of a comment on how poorly the entire genre is doing than anything else imho. When you have people praising what should be the foundation of the genre. Someone shouldn't be surprised by massively multiplayer in a MMO, but yet here we are.
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Grind?
Im 36 atm, i havent even bothered doing all the quest. You get xp for everything in this game.