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[General Article] ArcheAge: Review in Progress 3 - Farmville Deluxe

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

ArcheAge is starting to become as addicting as Farmville. Only in this case, I don’t really hate myself for liking the game. As I near the infamous level 30, my slower than average leveling pace isn’t due to lack of playing. I’ve just spent inordinate amounts of time roving the countryside, exploring crafting, and dabbling in a whole bunch of other things. The question I ask myself though is: am I focused on ArcheAge’s crafting and farming because they’re fun, or is it because the questing and combat progression is so old hat?

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After I wrote this, I made this! The good ship MMORPG.


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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    This game should never had had the "level" system, it is a wasted resource. skill/ability upgrade/purchase or stats upgrade in this game should have been bought by experience. people would get experience for doing anything they want : combat/killing or crafting or fishing or gathering or questing etc. that level system is a big reason why quests are so dull, they are just there to give experience so that people could level up fast.

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  • JaedorJaedor Member UncommonPosts: 1,173

    Gratz on getting your ship, Bill!

  • adderVXIadderVXI Member UncommonPosts: 727
    Positive reviews? Prepare for the onslaught. ..

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  • IkonicIkonic Member UncommonPosts: 310
    "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing."

    Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?
  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    With all the exclusives between Trion and here, I can't imagine ArcheAge will get a negative review.
  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785

    So combat/questing/dungeons are boring and bad.

    Playing 3D farmville is fun.

    No ty.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,986
    Originally posted by Ikonic
    "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing."

    Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?

    Different reviewers review differently.

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  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565
    Originally posted by Ikonic
    "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing."

    Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?

    No, they certainly do. But other games don't have quite as much meat to chew these days. Most are "kill stuff, do quests, level up. run dungeons".  AA has that, but its nothing compared to the trading, economy, PVP, and crafting.

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  • BattlerockBattlerock Member CommonPosts: 1,393
    I told him to take his time on this one, cut him some slack he is just following orders.
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    Bill shouldn't have reviewed this title.

    Too much of a "gamer just loving everything" and not enough gaming journalist.

    My bet is the usual 8.7-8.9 score and a dead game within 4-6 month.

    Edit for typos.

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  • turinmacleodturinmacleod Staff WriterMember UncommonPosts: 166
    Originally posted by Volgore

    Bill shouldn't have reviewed this title.

    Too much of a "gamer just loving everything" and not enough gaming journalist.

    My bet is the usual 8.7-8.9 score and a dead game within 4-6 month.

    Edit for typos.

    The usual 8.7 to 8.9 scores? Bill has THREE scores in that range. And MMORPG as a whole has NINE scores in that range.

     

    Do some research before you tell your lies.

     

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  • DeddmeatDeddmeat Member UncommonPosts: 387
    So many people moan and complain about AA yet if you are f2p i bet there are still queue's where those moaning are still waiting to get ingame and play that day.

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  • unclemounclemo Member UncommonPosts: 462
    I think Bill and I are in the same boat un that we have both finally found something to fill in the empty hole inside us that DAoC left. I can see myself playing for a long time but I will always be wondering if XLgames will drop a TOA-type disaster in player's laps. Also Trion has a big problem on their hands with a lack of GM presence in their servers and there are major flaws with customer service. We'll see how it goes. I hope they end up being successful.
  • SiphaedSiphaed Member RarePosts: 1,114
    Now, that doesn’t mean its launch woes will be forgotten, nor will I be taking into account the Northern Continent if it makes it in before I publish the review with scores near the end of October or beginning of November.

     

    Really? You're not going to include content in the game when reviewing the game?  MMO's are ever-evolving things that change for the good (GW2 content update #1, WoW TBC) or for the worse (SWG NGE, WoW Cataclysm).  A review is looked at by consumers on what to purchase of a game based on that publication on the game's state at that time.  Mentioning queue issues that are a month old by review time -and no longer an issue, I might add-  as well as ignoring unlocked content is a disservice to the readers who take a review as an educated read of the game.


  • mike329271mike329271 Member UncommonPosts: 2
    Currently level 24, free to play member, the graphics are good, the special effects for damage spells are really cool, but other than that I am at a loss to say anything positive about the game so far. The quests are mundane, the story line is "who knows?"  The maps suck, and as far as grabbing land, who cares?  If I wanted to farm crops, I'd play Farmville. This is one of the least inspiring games I've ever played. And what's with the labor point system? I kill bad guys and they give me coin purses as a reward. but then I have to spend labor points to open up the coin purses? So I get penalized for collecting the reward I'm already entitled to? And what's with the constant spam? Can't the owners of this game even control that? I noticed the problem with two hour queues is fixed, but I have no desire to play anyways. It's just something to do until the Rift expansion, and then the WoW expansion comes out. For those of you who enjoy this game, more power to you, my prediction is this game will be a ghost town within a year.
  • MothanosMothanos Member UncommonPosts: 1,910


    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by Ikonic "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing." Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?
    No, they certainly do. But other games don't have quite as much meat to chew these days. Most are "kill stuff, do quests, level up. run dungeons".  AA has that, but its nothing compared to the trading, economy, PVP, and crafting.


    And that naval combat Bill......ohmygawd :)
    We had a Gallion fight with over 12 gallions participating ! that chaos ! destruction !

    Its been a very long time since i had a blast and was totaly forgettting the time....
    The battle lasted for 5 hours...when i checked the clock i noticed work was 2 hours away and i dint had any sleep yet :P


    Love this mmo more then any other mmo i played in the past 14 years :)

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908
    Originally posted by Mothanos

     


    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Originally posted by Ikonic "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing." Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?
    No, they certainly do. But other games don't have quite as much meat to chew these days. Most are "kill stuff, do quests, level up. run dungeons".  AA has that, but its nothing compared to the trading, economy, PVP, and crafting.

     


    And that naval combat Bill......ohmygawd :)
    We had a Gallion fight with over 12 gallions participating ! that chaos ! destruction !

    Its been a very long time since i had a blast and was totaly forgettting the time....
    The battle lasted for 5 hours...when i checked the clock i noticed work was 2 hours away and i dint had any sleep yet :P


    Love this mmo more then any other mmo i played in the past 14 years :)

     

    This is what AA is about.

    People, the usual suspects, stopping at level 11 and coming here to whine about quests are never going to understand what this game really offers.

  • NikaasNikaas Member UncommonPosts: 135
    Originally posted by Vesavius
    Originally posted by Mothanos

     


    Originally posted by BillMurphy

    Originally posted by Ikonic "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing." Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?
    No, they certainly do. But other games don't have quite as much meat to chew these days. Most are "kill stuff, do quests, level up. run dungeons".  AA has that, but its nothing compared to the trading, economy, PVP, and crafting.

     


    And that naval combat Bill......ohmygawd :)
    We had a Gallion fight with over 12 gallions participating ! that chaos ! destruction !

    Its been a very long time since i had a blast and was totaly forgettting the time....
    The battle lasted for 5 hours...when i checked the clock i noticed work was 2 hours away and i dint had any sleep yet :P


    Love this mmo more then any other mmo i played in the past 14 years :)

     

    This is what AA is about.

    People, the usual suspects, stopping at level 11 and coming here to whine about quests are never going to understand what this game really offers.

     

    The worse thing about this game is that it preteds to be WoW clone for the first 30 levels. And thats way too long. That 30 levels long tutorial doesnt do enough to present the non-questing part of the game.

  • TacticalZombehTacticalZombeh Member UncommonPosts: 431
    Originally posted by Siphaed
    Now, that doesn’t mean its launch woes will be forgotten, nor will I be taking into account the Northern Continent if it makes it in before I publish the review with scores near the end of October or beginning of November.

     

    Really? You're not going to include content in the game when reviewing the game?  MMO's are ever-evolving things that change for the good (GW2 content update #1, WoW TBC) or for the worse (SWG NGE, WoW Cataclysm).  A review is looked at by consumers on what to purchase of a game based on that publication on the game's state at that time.  Mentioning queue issues that are a month old by review time -and no longer an issue, I might add-  as well as ignoring unlocked content is a disservice to the readers who take a review as an educated read of the game.

    Do some research into the game and actually read what he said. The northern continent is not in the game yet (so, NOT unlocked) therefore he can't review it.

  • QuarkchaosQuarkchaos Member UncommonPosts: 2

    "And that naval combat Bill......ohmygawd"

    Could not agree with you more! I just joined a guild comprised of Navy Vets focused on naval warfare strategy...HOORAH!  I must admit the glider and naval warfare aspect of this game really sold me on becoming a patron. Now, one does not have to be a war monger to have fun...I have created alts that are quite content with peaceful farming, crafting, and selling. That is the beauty of this game...so many things to do outside of the usual quest/battle/quest scenarios. 

    One issue that no one seems to be talking about is the rather sexist portrayal of females, eg, the body language and armor. I guess I can see how one would enjoy beaver shots while flying on a glider in  skimpy "battle armor" but after awhile it really is annoying. Male characters are decked out in full coverage armor that protects all their parts; however, the female equivalent of the same armor leaves them half naked.

    Oh well...onward to faring battle in my metallic g-string!

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  • syriinxsyriinx Member UncommonPosts: 1,383
    Originally posted by Torvaldr
    Originally posted by BillMurphy
    Originally posted by Ikonic
    "I believe that AA is going to take me a longer to review than most MMOs, if only because I’m of the mind that I should experience as much as possible within the game before putting a score to the thing."

    Other reviewed games do not get this luxury?

    No, they certainly do. But other games don't have quite as much meat to chew these days. Most are "kill stuff, do quests, level up. run dungeons".  AA has that, but its nothing compared to the trading, economy, PVP, and crafting.

    It's always fun to read your articles Bill. Maybe the next article could explain exactly how these systems are deeper, more interesting, and complex than their sibling offerings because I haven't seen or experienced that yet and you didn't explain how in the article.

    I do enjoy the combat. It's sort of paced in a way that lets me keep moving if I figure out how to cycle my attacks to preserve power. Once I outlevel some potions I try and push it to use those up to free up inventory space.

    Im with Torvaldr on this.

    There is a lot to do, but outside of gathering I don't see much depth.  This includes especially crafting.  For a game where its PvE activity is craft centric, it has such a bare bones item making process. 

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by syriinx

    There is a lot to do


    I do not want to craft, I am not high level and have crappy gear so I prefer not to PVP. What is this "lots to do" you speak of?

  • tyfontyfon Member UncommonPosts: 240
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by syriinx

    There is a lot to do

     


    I do not want to craft, I am not high level and have crappy gear so I prefer not to PVP. What is this "lots to do" you speak of?

    If you don't like pvp or crafting then you can safely uninstall the pvp and crafting centric game you are playing ;)

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by tyfon

    If you don't like pvp or crafting then you can safely uninstall the pvp and crafting centric game you are playing ;)

    That does not make previous claim any less false.

    You make a straw man argument there, I can craft and PVP in other games as well.

  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,273
    Originally posted by Gdemami

     


    Originally posted by tyfon

    If you don't like pvp or crafting then you can safely uninstall the pvp and crafting centric game you are playing ;)

     

    That does not make previous claim any less false.

    You make a straw man argument there, I can craft and PVP in other games as well.

    the game was advertised as a PVP and crafting game more than anything else. they have Dungeons, dailies, trade pack runs, fishing, boat fishing, normal quests, Wars in conflicted areas, farming, gathering, raising livestock, you can become a Pirate and roam the seas looking for someone to kill and rob, you can treasure hunt in the open water at sunken ship sites

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