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They should release how many people quit today lol

hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621

Wow i picked a bad time to start playing this game lol. I figured waiting 2 months would like every other game, be a good time, because they would have the problems fixed. I still cant believe they dont have a test server. They dont even have a good excuse as to way the server broke for any one disconnecting. 

I played when the server came up for around 2 hours, and dropped my modem, and it restarted couldent get back in. So i went to sleep, and its still broken lol. I dont think I have ever seen a company have a huge percent of the people not being able to connect, and decide it is a great idea to leave the server up. 

I bet they lost a lot of paying customers, they must want this game to fail. Its not like its that hard to figure out how to use a test server first.......... I mean no one does things like this, but people who are seriously mentally impaired. You dont go hey let me build a submarine, but I am not going to test it, I am going to the middle of the ocean, and jump in it and see what happens. You dont go out and say hey I never had this new food before, let me buy 1000s of dollars of it before i know if i like it. You dont start testing out drugs by taking the most hard core ones haha, extra extra extra. 

I would really like them to explain how they came to this business choice. Hey guys, i know how we can piss most if not all our customers off. Lets release a upgrade to our product, but not test it at all, and just give it to them, telling them it will be fine......... Who does that lol, but this company lol.

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    In this modern F2P-centric game world, we no longer worry about people that "quit" a game...

     

    The focus is now on the amount of "registered accounts", because happily, that number can only ever increase !

  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    When Scott Hartsman returned as Trions CEO I backed out of Rift, I knew the company was going to go downhill and I haven't been proven wrong yet.

    "People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

    They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
    http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Originally posted by JJ82
    When Scott Hartsman returned as Trions CEO I backed out of Rift, I knew the company was going to go downhill and I haven't been proven wrong yet.

    You have been proven right, any one willing to release a major patch that wasent tested on a test server, that has to do with a land grab, not shut down the server, after a majority cant get in. Is a terrible company. I am glad i only spent 15 dollars lol. I think a night of drinking would of been money better spent though. 

  • BeowulfsamBeowulfsam Member UncommonPosts: 145
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    In this modern F2P-centric game world, we no longer worry about people that "quit" a game...

     

    The focus is now on the amount of "registered accounts", because happily, that number can only ever increase !

     

    Well, if they do a massive ban wave/account deletion, it can go down! Untill the bots make new accounts :D

     

    And to OP: My guess is 1 or greater :). Which is more fucks than I give for Trino atm. Sure everything is not in their hands and they have to rely on XL Games, but they fail even on things that are within their power. On the other hand, I'm running out of MMO companies that I think are at least semi-competent. Except when it comes to grabbing cash, they all seem to have that part down to the dot. 

  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    I am just hearing about it now, I play the Japanese version of the game so I don't know all the details of the clusterfeck you guys are going through. GameOn has a PTR so a lot is found and fixed before going live.

    "People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

    They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
    http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  • SupaAPESupaAPE Member Posts: 100
    Originally posted by hatefulpeace
    Originally posted by JJ82
    When Scott Hartsman returned as Trions CEO I backed out of Rift, I knew the company was going to go downhill and I haven't been proven wrong yet.

    You have been proven right, any one willing to release a major patch that wasent tested on a test server, that has to do with a land grab, not shut down the server, after a majority cant get in. Is a terrible company. I am glad i only spent 15 dollars lol. I think a night of drinking would of been money better spent though. 

    rofl :D

  • Acebets70Acebets70 Member UncommonPosts: 269
    NGE......
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Originally posted by Beowulfsam
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    In this modern F2P-centric game world, we no longer worry about people that "quit" a game...

     

    The focus is now on the amount of "registered accounts", because happily, that number can only ever increase !

     

    Well, if they do a massive ban wave/account deletion, it can go down! Untill the bots make new accounts :D

     

    ... 

    Now that's the beauty of "registered accounts", you see.

     

    Some of those may be banned accounts, some inactive, some may even be cancelled, but they are ALL registered accounts and will be included in the total 'till the end of time !

  • Elevenb4Elevenb4 Member UncommonPosts: 362

    I played for about 2 hours about 4 days after release because I finally got in after all the que's. I thought it was okay for what it was, so I subbed and was prepared to sink a month into the game before passing judgement. Then came some stupid patch that made it so I couldn't patch the game on any of my 3 computers. I spent probably about 6 hours across 2 or 3 days trying every fix I could find on the forums, on the support site, talked to tech support, uninstall re-install, even set my PC's to an earlier date before I ever installed the game, etc. (all those several times)

     

    Bottom line. I couldn't even play. I got so frustrated with it all that I just stopped trying to fix it. Every other game I install on any of my PC"s work fine. I ended up filing a dispute through Paypal and got my money back, since the product I paid for I never ever got to use. 

    -Unconstitutional laws aren't laws.-

  • MuppetierMuppetier Member UncommonPosts: 279

    Lots of drama in the US

    Luckily for me I play on the EU servers which go live in a few hours time and I have every faith that this launch will go swimmingly!

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679

    This won't sink in at Trion until those the prepaid game time the founders have expires.

     

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

  • bobfishbobfish Member UncommonPosts: 1,679
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    I don't have the game on this machine, but there are four EU servers which show UP all day round, which from what I've been told is the lowest population indicator. I've only played a bit on one of them to see what the land issue was like, it could be left over from when they were populated, but I doubt it.

     

    Will check again later today to see what Auroria is like on them.

  • caveogre72caveogre72 Member UncommonPosts: 30

    Add 3 to the list of no longer subscribing, me and 2 friends, we still can't get into the game as of this morning.

    call it the straw that broke the camel's back.

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    While I agree with you that there are no dead servers, it is also clear the population on many of them has decreased considerably.  About half the servers only say "UP" during primetime with the other half saying "High" and queues have been gone for weeks now.  Obviously half the people crying wont really quit over this, but some will.  This close to the WoW expansion, new crafting games like The Repopulation and EQN on the horizon and other games coming out for christmas, this disaster was the last thing Trion needed.

    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • CoatedCoated Member UncommonPosts: 507
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    While I agree with you that there are no dead servers, it is also clear the population on many of them has decreased considerably.  About half the servers only say "UP" during primetime with the other half saying "High" and queues have been gone for weeks now.  Obviously half the people crying wont really quit over this, but some will.  This close to the WoW expansion, new crafting games like The Repopulation and EQN on the horizon and other games coming out for christmas, this disaster was the last thing Trion needed.

    Half of the people on all of those servers are bots. That is not an estimate either. Go play on one of those 'full' servers and start leveling up. Through every questing area you play, you will be surrounded by bots. In some of the more favorable areas, there were bot trains (haven't seen that crap since Ragnarok Online. BOT TRAINS!) that were so bad that you could barely finish your quest because they stole every mob that spawned.

    The number of 'real' players in this game is staggering low. Sure, at 50, you will run into all of the people still wasting time with Archeage, but my 1-40 experience was played with bots. It was a rare occasion that i actually ran into a real player from 1-40.

     

  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Originally posted by Muppetier

    Lots of drama in the US

    Luckily for me I play on the EU servers which go live in a few hours time and I have every faith that this launch will go swimmingly!

    Yeah you lucky duck lol, they used the USA server as the test server, the wroten fuckers. 

  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    Well i play on the least populated server, in my estimate. Which lucious or how ever you spell it. The one named after the shape shifting god. All the land is taken, but its not dead. There are people running all over. 

  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Originally posted by Coated
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    While I agree with you that there are no dead servers, it is also clear the population on many of them has decreased considerably.  About half the servers only say "UP" during primetime with the other half saying "High" and queues have been gone for weeks now.  Obviously half the people crying wont really quit over this, but some will.  This close to the WoW expansion, new crafting games like The Repopulation and EQN on the horizon and other games coming out for christmas, this disaster was the last thing Trion needed.

    Half of the people on all of those servers are bots. That is not an estimate either. Go play on one of those 'full' servers and start leveling up. Through every questing area you play, you will be surrounded by bots. In some of the more favorable areas, there were bot trains (haven't seen that crap since Ragnarok Online. BOT TRAINS!) that were so bad that you could barely finish your quest because they stole every mob that spawned.

    The number of 'real' players in this game is staggering low. Sure, at 50, you will run into all of the people still wasting time with Archeage, but my 1-40 experience was played with bots. It was a rare occasion that i actually ran into a real player from 1-40.

     

    Well i dono about any server but, Lucian one or the one named after the shapeshifting god. I havent seen a bot yet. I know there are bots, because on the trial channel i always here them talking about bot killing. I am only level 18 though, so that prolly makes a huge point. So level 1-18 i have never seen a bot. 

  • Spankster77Spankster77 Member UncommonPosts: 487

    Actually, Trion is brilliant!  This game was the biggest proof that western gamers are so desperate for the next big thing that we will dump massive amounts of cash on garbage in hopes. 

     

    I am willing to bet that Trion's investment in AA was minimal since the game has been out in Korea for years, there was very little westernization of the game (i.e. the NPCs look and speak Korean), all they did was edit the voice overs on the limited cut scenes and translate the text, which can be done on google for free. 

     

    They sold $150 alpha packs, $99 beta packs with a costume, and $49 beta packs with essentially nothing.  People including myself bought them up because there was basically nothing else worth playing.  In addition to the cash they made off the packs they implemented a pay to win cash shop. 

     

    People can say that Trion has failed with AA but I don't agree.  Keep in mind all they did was publish this game in EU/NA which means there has been no design or development costs associated with it for Trion.  I do believe that even if AA was to be taken offline tomorrow in NA/EU Trion would still have made a hefty profit from this game.

  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Originally posted by Spankster77

    Actually, Trion is brilliant!  This game was the biggest proof that western gamers are so desperate for the next big thing that we will dump massive amounts of cash on garbage in hopes. 

     

    I am willing to bet that Trion's investment in AA was minimal since the game has been out in Korea for years, there was very little westernization of the game (i.e. the NPCs look and speak Korean), all they did was edit the voice overs on the limited cut scenes and translate the text, which can be done on google for free. 

     

    They sold $150 alpha packs, $99 beta packs with a costume, and $49 beta packs with essentially nothing.  People including myself bought them up because there was basically nothing else worth playing.  In addition to the cash they made off the packs they implemented a pay to win cash shop. 

     

    People can say that Trion has failed with AA but I don't agree.  Keep in mind all they did was publish this game in EU/NA which means there has been no design or development costs associated with it for Trion.  I do believe that even if AA was to be taken offline tomorrow in NA/EU Trion would still have made a hefty profit from this game.

    Star Citizen is all the proof one needs...

  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,689
    Originally posted by Spankster77

    Actually, Trion is brilliant!  This game was the biggest proof that western gamers are so desperate for the next big thing that we will dump massive amounts of cash on garbage in hopes. 

     

    I am willing to bet that Trion's investment in AA was minimal since the game has been out in Korea for years, there was very little westernization of the game (i.e. the NPCs look and speak Korean), all they did was edit the voice overs on the limited cut scenes and translate the text, which can be done on google for free. 

     

    They sold $150 alpha packs, $99 beta packs with a costume, and $49 beta packs with essentially nothing.  People including myself bought them up because there was basically nothing else worth playing.  In addition to the cash they made off the packs they implemented a pay to win cash shop. 

     

    People can say that Trion has failed with AA but I don't agree.  Keep in mind all they did was publish this game in EU/NA which means there has been no design or development costs associated with it for Trion.  I do believe that even if AA was to be taken offline tomorrow in NA/EU Trion would still have made a hefty profit from this game.

    Yep.  Google up the business presentation R2Games made on F2P games.  Not really caring that your game will die a fast death as long as you make good profits is actually a very profitable business strategy.

     

    (if anything, there are several points in the presentation that Trion could have done to make even more money but they failed to nab the opportunity.  Just sad, Trion.)

  • CoatedCoated Member UncommonPosts: 507
    Originally posted by hatefulpeace
    Originally posted by Coated
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    While I agree with you that there are no dead servers, it is also clear the population on many of them has decreased considerably.  About half the servers only say "UP" during primetime with the other half saying "High" and queues have been gone for weeks now.  Obviously half the people crying wont really quit over this, but some will.  This close to the WoW expansion, new crafting games like The Repopulation and EQN on the horizon and other games coming out for christmas, this disaster was the last thing Trion needed.

    Half of the people on all of those servers are bots. That is not an estimate either. Go play on one of those 'full' servers and start leveling up. Through every questing area you play, you will be surrounded by bots. In some of the more favorable areas, there were bot trains (haven't seen that crap since Ragnarok Online. BOT TRAINS!) that were so bad that you could barely finish your quest because they stole every mob that spawned.

    The number of 'real' players in this game is staggering low. Sure, at 50, you will run into all of the people still wasting time with Archeage, but my 1-40 experience was played with bots. It was a rare occasion that i actually ran into a real player from 1-40.

     

    Well i dono about any server but, Lucian one or the one named after the shapeshifting god. I havent seen a bot yet. I know there are bots, because on the trial channel i always here them talking about bot killing. I am only level 18 though, so that prolly makes a huge point. So level 1-18 i have never seen a bot. 

    I find it hard to believe that you haven't seen a bot 1-18. Makes me believe that  you don't know what a bot looks like. But rather than doubt your word, i'm going to make a character on Lucian and see if you are right.

  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by bobfish
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    I don't have the game on this machine, but there are four EU servers which show UP all day round, which from what I've been told is the lowest population indicator. I've only played a bit on one of them to see what the land issue was like, it could be left over from when they were populated, but I doubt it.

     

    Ok, i play in EU-Eanna, some time ago that i have curiosity to see how things goes in newer servers, will try that too.

  • hatefulpeacehatefulpeace Member UncommonPosts: 621
    Originally posted by Coated
    Originally posted by hatefulpeace
    Originally posted by Coated
    Originally posted by Talonsin
    Originally posted by Jabas
    Originally posted by bobfish

    What I find surprising is that even the dead servers have no land left. There is barely anyone playing on some of these servers yet every single plot is taken.

    I like to check a "dead server", and no im not trolling, i really like to check it, wich server(s) are you refering to?

    While I agree with you that there are no dead servers, it is also clear the population on many of them has decreased considerably.  About half the servers only say "UP" during primetime with the other half saying "High" and queues have been gone for weeks now.  Obviously half the people crying wont really quit over this, but some will.  This close to the WoW expansion, new crafting games like The Repopulation and EQN on the horizon and other games coming out for christmas, this disaster was the last thing Trion needed.

    Half of the people on all of those servers are bots. That is not an estimate either. Go play on one of those 'full' servers and start leveling up. Through every questing area you play, you will be surrounded by bots. In some of the more favorable areas, there were bot trains (haven't seen that crap since Ragnarok Online. BOT TRAINS!) that were so bad that you could barely finish your quest because they stole every mob that spawned.

    The number of 'real' players in this game is staggering low. Sure, at 50, you will run into all of the people still wasting time with Archeage, but my 1-40 experience was played with bots. It was a rare occasion that i actually ran into a real player from 1-40.

     

    Well i dono about any server but, Lucian one or the one named after the shapeshifting god. I havent seen a bot yet. I know there are bots, because on the trial channel i always here them talking about bot killing. I am only level 18 though, so that prolly makes a huge point. So level 1-18 i have never seen a bot. 

    I find it hard to believe that you haven't seen a bot 1-18. Makes me believe that  you don't know what a bot looks like. But rather than doubt your word, i'm going to make a character on Lucian and see if you are right.

    Maybe i dont, I didnt see any wierd names. I suppose the people running the trade runs could be bots, but most of them talk. Although i dont talk to all of them as i pass. I never had one not respond to me though. I didnt see any bots like when i played ESO, where some one would pop out of no where, take my resource node, then pop back out of where they came from. 

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