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ArcheAge: Scott Hartsman Responds to APEX "Dupe"

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Trion's CEO Scott Hartsman has issued an official response to the allegation that there is a duplication bug for APEX currency. APEX is purchased with real world dollars and, when opened, yields in-game credits. Players have alleged that this is an issue that has been in the game since alpha.

"There isn't a dupe bug.  There were some instances where APEX could be used to yield more credits than one was supposed to get.   Our investigation showed that this affected a relatively small number of people. We've temporarily paused their accounts and we're doing a targeted cleanup on them right now, then releasing them. 

People who were found to have intentionally abused it appear to be around a dozen globally, and they'll see more serious actions taken against their account."

Keep an eye on the ArcheAge forums for more as it is revealed.

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    I will be the 1st to say it : This is a bonkers reply. I KNOW at least 20 people who used that dupe. How can he say that they are only 12 globally? Part of a multi mmo guild and it is a buzz in our forums. Bullshit ...

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  • bersteinberstein Member UncommonPosts: 2
    So they let the botters, spammers, glitchers, and the exploiters run rampant. As soon as they find an issue that takes money from their pockets they get right on it.  Good Job Trion. Way to show even more all you care about is your money.
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    "and we're doing a targeted cleanup on them right now, then releasing them.  "

    Of course you do, nobody expected anything else. Ban legit players first, unban the exploiters second is a tradition at Trion's.

     

    And btw: In recent years Hartsmann has been about as trustworthy as Baghdad Bob.

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    Originally posted by berstein
    So they let the botters, spammers, glitchers, and the exploiters run rampant. As soon as they find an issue that takes money from their pockets they get right on it.  Good Job Trion. Way to show even more all you care about is your money.

    Not to be like that but how do you suggest that they stop botters and spammers..? Because i am sure that game developers all over the world are curious to know your secret.

     

    But seriously, you think it is abad thing that they strike down at a exploit that targ4ets the relation between real world and game economy... Because that is... you know... yeah.. you know.

     

    I sometimes wonder if it is raw talent or if someone like you actually practise... Because you got some special skills.

    This have been a good conversation

  • ToxiaToxia Member UncommonPosts: 1,308
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  • Spankster77Spankster77 Member UncommonPosts: 487

    I can't help but LoL at this response.  12 people globally have exploited APEX yet it's all over the web, forums, and you tube... riiiight!

     

    From day one this company has been shady with this game.  From charging $150 to get alpha access, to multiple $150 packs being mysteriously gifted from people's credit cards, to extra charges being made when you use the cash shop, etc.

     

    This company never ceases to amaze or disappoint me... lol 

  • ChuckanarChuckanar Member UncommonPosts: 210
    I was stupid and did a month.. the botters and overall horrible way the game is being handled sent me running away as fast as I can. Suggest anyone that spent money on that game make sure their bank is watching their cards or get a new one to be safe.
  • Veexer_NuiVeexer_Nui Member UncommonPosts: 268
    This is bullshit, I know at least 20 people in my guild were using it for the past 3 weeks, we all shared the same single apex to do it. hahaha

    Archeage EU - Nui

  • preachmorepreachmore Member Posts: 75
    Originally posted by Veexer_Nui
    This is bullshit, I know at least 20 people in my guild were using it for the past 3 weeks, we all shared the same single apex to do it. hahaha

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  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Member UncommonPosts: 759
    If there was only about 12 globally abusing this glitch then there would not have been such a huge forum posting about the issue nor would there even be much of a need for Hartsman and Trion to even acknowledge the glitch. Trion is slowly becoming the worst gaming company out there as far as their PR.


  • xenoracexenorace Member UncommonPosts: 205

    With all this mishandling of AA I still cannot understand how players would still give money to Trion. I don't care how good a game is, when you have this much problem from the publisher you should probably just walk away and stop supporting bad decisions. I've put a stop to publishers like EA, Ubisoft and a few others. Would I love to play some of their games? Sure would, but I'm not going to support poor decisions.

     

     OT: This just sounds like PR talk to me.

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  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Lol, riiiight....

     

    Trion proudly tell us that AA has over 2 million registered accounts, yet only 12 people intentionally abused the APEX glitch !

     

    What's next ? 

    Only 18 people intentionally abused the Racy lockbox glitch ?

    Only 7 people globally used the land hack exploit, and there were only 23 bots globally ?

     

    ArcheAge actually seems to have the most honest and law-abiding population of any MMO currently running...

  • JaedorJaedor Member UncommonPosts: 1,173

    Where was this Hartsman post made?

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    What the heck??

    There isn't a Dupe bug ...BUT some have got more than they were supposed to and we don't know how or why but we are investigating,suspended accounts and cleaning it up.

    That sure sounds to me like a Dupe bug,like 100% a bug,well the term "bug" is always misused,it is a coding error.If the code was written properly,this would not be happening,as simple as that.

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  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    Seems like every week that goes by my decision to stick with the Japanese version looks better and better. I said Trion was going to go downhill when the let Hartsman back in last year.

    "People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

    They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
    http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  • Ragnar1337Ragnar1337 Member CommonPosts: 70

    Well he is right about one thing, it wasn't really a dupe. It was far worse. Basically all you had to do was get one apex chip and you could literally get as many credits as you wanted by zoning as soon as you clicked it. I got hundreds of thousands of free credits doing this. I bought many months of patron status and hundreds of lp pots. My account was banned for 24 hours, but honestly even if it gets perma banned the damage is already done. I know for a fact many people got even more free stuff than I did using multiple accounts.

    I was already on my way out of this shit game anyway so I kind of hope my ban is permanent and I'm glad if my abuse highlighted what a complete shitfest this game is. Trion is a garbage company cash grabbing off a poorly designed game they didn't even make. I hope to see them go under as soon as possible. RIP Trion.

  • SoandsosoSoandsoso Member Posts: 533

    Kooncoon (Korean Twitch streamer) was talking about streaming LoL or something else.

    Reason: Korean ArcheAge is dead.

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    Kooncoon (Korean Twitch streamer) was talking about streaming LoL or something else.

    Reason: Korean ArcheAge is dead.

    He's just doing it wrong.

    Just ask the white knight.

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  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Originally posted by Soandsoso

    Kooncoon (Korean Twitch streamer) was talking about streaming LoL or something else.

    Reason: Korean ArcheAge is dead.

    It should be, do you know how bad korean AA f2p model is? Korean f2p model :-

    1. To get plot must buy cash shop item, depending on the size of plot number of item varies

    2. No LP regen, must by cash shop pots or craft a long CD consumable that returns very small amount of LP

    3. Drop rate of archeum is negligible, must by booster item from cash shop

    4. Those Hasla tokens drop drop with very low amount, must buy booster from cash shop

    And all kind of crap you can imagine. Compared to that Trion's AA f2p model is like heaven. Too bad suddenly their management  went total bonkers, Mr. Hartsman really lowered his image to me with this message.

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  • JJ82JJ82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,258
    Originally posted by jesteralways

    And all kind of crap you can imagine. Compared to that Trion's AA f2p model is like heaven. Too bad suddenly their management  went total bonkers, Mr. Hartsman really lowered his image to me with this message.

     You must know little about him then...he was originally let go from Trion because of things like this and he has done it constantly since he returned.

    He is number three on my worst CEO list.

    1. Steve Ballmer.

    2. Yves Guillemot (Ubisoft)

    3. Scott Hartsman.

    "People who tell you you’re awesome are useless. No, dangerous.

    They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
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  • MrBum21MrBum21 Member UncommonPosts: 405
    Originally posted by Ragnar1337

    Well he is right about one thing, it wasn't really a dupe. It was far worse. Basically all you had to do was get one apex chip and you could literally get as many credits as you wanted by zoning as soon as you clicked it. I got hundreds of thousands of free credits doing this. I bought many months of patron status and hundreds of lp pots. My account was banned for 24 hours, but honestly even if it gets perma banned the damage is already done. I know for a fact many people got even more free stuff than I did using multiple accounts.

    I was already on my way out of this shit game anyway so I kind of hope my ban is permanent and I'm glad if my abuse highlighted what a complete shitfest this game is. Trion is a garbage company cash grabbing off a poorly designed game they didn't even make. I hope to see them go under as soon as possible. RIP Trion.

    so we have found one of the 12, who were the 11 other people doing this??

    the missing link in a chain of destruction.

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  • NiburuNiburu Member UncommonPosts: 402

    this game is so dead. it was actually very promising but totally ruined by trion/AA missmangement

     

    its a hidden casina (RNG for Money) and heavy pay to win (buy rumbling tress for archeum to craft endgame gear), or buy crystals for higher chances for endgame items.

     

    Well then you can use it to oneshot every non whale

  • MrBootsMrBoots Member UncommonPosts: 289
    I know a guy that exploited it for weeks. He wouldn't tell me the exact method. But I knew he was making lots of gold with it. He has a full delphinad set on his main enchanted to divine. His alt account that was doing the apex exploit wasn't even banned because he stopped when it became public.

    Meanwhile I get wrecked in my mostly complete gha scrub set in 2 hits by guys with P2W weapons.
  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935
    Originally posted by preachmore
    Originally posted by Veexer_Nui
    This is bullshit, I know at least 20 people in my guild were using it for the past 3 weeks, we all shared the same single apex to do it. hahaha

    alter ego of a white knight?

    Someone in mind?

  • Dead_GuyDead_Guy Member UncommonPosts: 42

    The game isn't pay to win! Anyone can get the best gear if they just play for 8+ hours a day for the next 2 years!

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