UK based watchdogs can't touch Blizzard either. Just because a couple spoiled little shits couldn't play a video game for three days doesn't mean they did anything wrong. These idiots went to a lawyer the lawyer read the TOS/EULA laughed at the ignorant entitled shits and told them to go away. Now those little shits are hoping to try another venture that will like everything else fail.
One would be a fool to think that being featured on watchdog isn't bad for Blizzard. It's the worst kind of publicity they could get and will cost them financially. People trust the show and if they warn them off of buying something then generally they will avoid.
Lol yes! This will be the beginning of the end for WoW once and for all! A couple idiots will go on TV and cry how they couldn't log in to a VIDEO GAME for THREE DAYS. The show will turn around and tell people Oh my did you hear that THREE DAYS! The idiots will be like yeah we demanded 30 DAYS FREE and they only gave us 5 FREE DAYS! The host will ask did you read the TOS AND EULA? Suddenly the show ends...
Yeah I'm sure it will have a huge financial impact lol. The guys who pull out the ignorant lawsuit threats, pathetic petitions and now watchdog TV shows are nothing but a bunch of entitled little shits being a drain on society.
UK based watchdogs can't touch Blizzard either. Just because a couple spoiled little shits couldn't play a video game for three days doesn't mean they did anything wrong. These idiots went to a lawyer the lawyer read the TOS/EULA laughed at the ignorant entitled shits and told them to go away. Now those little shits are hoping to try another venture that will like everything else fail.
One would be a fool to think that being featured on watchdog isn't bad for Blizzard. It's the worst kind of publicity they could get and will cost them financially. People trust the show and if they warn them off of buying something then generally they will avoid.
I guess this is how toothbrushes in the UK got a bad rep.
Recently been reading up on the forums and notice players up in arms about problems and some saying they will complain to a TV show called Watchdog, they deal with big companies when they screw over customers, and it seems they actually got the show to talk about Blizzard.
What do people think? Never thought it would actually happen. Is it too far or a good sign of customers taking a stand?
I would have totally understand and fully supported them, if they had done this with Ubisoft and their rip off / disaster With Assassins Creed Unity!
But for an expansion launch that had just a few days trouble due to DDoS attacks and sheer volume of players. Issues that are now pretty much solved and gone for most. /shrug
Blizzard here was again victim of their own success. I honestly don´t think (anyone for that matter) that over 3 million People would come back for this expansion and them having over 10 million subs again.
So no, this is not a good sign! They took action on the wrong company! As again, I would have fully understand and supported them if it was Ubisoft. As that company deserves all the flack they can get right now. /sigh
If a company knows there may be downtime due to a large influx of players they need to address that and let it be known instead of advertising that the servers will be fully functional at the time of a release.
Its false advertisement otherwise. There are no if and's or buts about it.
By them stating that the expansion will be up and running on the day it is released yet for countless people it is not, is false advertising. There is no other way to slice it.
All of their bases are covered in the Terms of Use, which every player has to agree to in order to play the game:
"Blizzard Entertainment may be required to "shut down" one or more servers to repair the hardware, or software, related to World of Warcraft. While it is Blizzard Entertainment's intention to provide the Service all day, every day, you hereby acknowledge that Blizzard Entertainment reserves the right to temporarily suspend the Service for maintenance, testing, replacement and repair of the telecommunications equipment related to World of Warcraft, as well as for transmission interruption or any other operational needs of the system."
Pretty much /thread right there. But they also gave out 5 free days to apologize for the issues, which they didn't even have to do.
Originally posted by Leiloni I think it's too far and whiny gamers with nothing better in their life that have no concept of what it's like to launch a huge expansion like this.
Honest i could have buy that argument if it was Blizzard 1st expansion but serious come on the have been around with WoW now for 10 year and the still have not learn anything from there early expansion.
At this point in WoW life blizzard should know the most people will come and the it will be queue times but do you think it is ok sit in queue for almost 5 hour if not longer to login to your main char to lvl him/her up?
I need to PAY for char transfer to other server just so i could lvl up my main char for my main server for it was lag like hell and have mini 5 hour queue time and sit in queue to LFG and when i click enter the dungeon i get kick back out in to queue just to enter same group and when i enter the dungeon is empty serious you think that is ok?
As a customer we should have right to complain and each time you do on blizzard forum your post get other close down or remove or you get bane for speak your mind if any other company would do like that the would lose customer or get report to National Board for Consumer Policies for you are a paying customer you have right to demand that product you are pay for should work everytime you use it.
But blizzard is just like all other big company the don't gave rat asss about there customer as long as earn money the don't care much about anything else fact is that blizzard customer policy/support is one off worst in the mmo genre and know other mmo game that if you send the email it take the only 24 hour to answer or if you phone them it take less then 24 hour for call back but if you try to get in contact with blizzard support you 9 out 10 get standard answer in email and you have wait mini 3 day to answer and if you phone the can not help you most of time.
So yeah i think is not more then right that BBC Watchdog is take look at how blizzard act again there customer.
Originally posted by Leiloni I think it's too far and whiny gamers with nothing better in their life that have no concept of what it's like to launch a huge expansion like this.
Honest i could have buy that argument if it was Blizzard 1st expansion but serious come on the have been around with WoW now for 10 year and the still have not learn anything from there early expansion.
At this point in WoW life blizzard should know the most people will come and the it will be queue times but do you think it is ok sit in queue for almost 5 hour if not longer to login to your main char to lvl him/her up?
I need to PAY for char transfer to other server just so i could lvl up my main char for my main server for it was lag like hell and have mini 5 hour queue time and sit in queue to LFG and when i click enter the dungeon i get kick back out in to queue just to enter same group and when i enter the dungeon is empty serious you think that is ok?
As a customer we should have right to complain and each time you do on blizzard forum your post get other close down or remove or you get bane for speak your mind if any other company would do like that the would lose customer or get report to National Board for Consumer Policies for you are a paying customer you have right to demand that product you are pay for should work everytime you use it.
But blizzard is just like all other big company the don't gave rat asss about there customer as long as earn money the don't care much about anything else fact is that blizzard customer policy/support is one off worst in the mmo genre and know other mmo game that if you send the email it take the only 24 hour to answer or if you phone them it take less then 24 hour for call back but if you try to get in contact with blizzard support you 9 out 10 get standard answer in email and you have wait mini 3 day to answer and if you phone the can not help you most of time.
So yeah i think is not more then right that BBC Watchdog is take look at how blizzard act again there customer.
Haha yeah I'm sure the bbc will really put it to Blizzard lol what joke.
So people like you expect Blizzard to waste money and increase their infrastructure to be able to handle a huge rush that last 3 days right? That's ignorant to expect that. A restaurant would not build a building to hold 1000 customers when they know after the first week they will have 500 customers.
You and others had to sit in queues for what THREE DAYS! What does Blizzard give everyone FIVE FREE DAYS!
It was not Blizzard forcing you to be on a high Pop server that was YOUR CHOICE yeah WoW has been around even me who CHOOSES to play on a low pop server know HIGH POP SERVETS HAVE HUGE QUEUES DURING LAUNCHED! So don't cry you have "to pay " to transfer it was YOUR CHOICE to begin with.
Deleteing threads? Read the TOS/EULA it talks about a few things I will highlight a few for you since it's clear you never read it. First spamming the same topic over and over is against the rules and threads WILL BE deleted to clean up the forums. When you have 10 crying whining I quit threads because you have to wait in line that will constitute deleting a few of them. Second in the TOS/EULA that you and the rest still crying and still thinking this bbc garbage will do something didn't read it states Blizzard will at times close worlds, do maintenance and have queues. They never state it will be on 365 days 24/7.
They don't give a rats ass about their customers hmm? They worked day and night to fix the issues it took them THREE DAYS to fix issues so 10 MILLION people (most are extremely happy customers) can enjoy what many are calling a "great expansion" "most fun I've had in years".
Well anyways good luck lol how desperate can these people get? Whining and crying failed, change.org petition failed, lawsuits failed, now a stupid bbf TV show will fail. Hey don't worry only 10 more years about crying and whining about Wow. Have fun!
Those of you not in the Uk wont realise this but watchdog is part of our industry regulation here that reports on companies which abuse the consumer by selling faulty products, products which aren't fit for purpose or sold as advertised and companies following bad practices.
It is similar to crimewatch which reports violent crime with photos to look for witnesses.
It is a public service and does not troll companies for no reason which is why it is so well trusted like crime watch.
If it is doing a report on Blizzard, they would be doing it for legitimate reasons and Blizzard must have ripped off the customer.
No it isn't
It is a weekly TV program with no real power except naming and shaming a company, it is not part of the industry regulatory body what so ever
Many items on the program arent in reference to anyone being ripped off - we get things like poor mobile phone signal, slow delivery times, energy pricing - it is sensationalist TV!
I already covered this too. I mentioned they report on several different abuses of the public such as goods being sold not fit for purpose, goods not being sold as advertisied or companies following bad practices.
Read the whole passage instead of defending wow so blindly that you attack an actual oversight body of bad company practices in the UK.
Its not a troll program, if they reported on Blizzard, its because blizzard ripped off their customers somehow.
Do you even understand how to argue? All you've done in this thread is make unfounded accusations, fail to provide proof of said accusations, make unfounded claims as to the affiliation of Watchdog, and resort to not only lying, but outright ignoring anything ripping your 'arguments' to shred, but using nothing but straw man fallacies and ad hominem.
Just look at this one. The poster you're arguing with attempts to inform you that you are mistaken as to the affiliation of the program Watchdogs. How do you respond? By re-iterating a point not even remotely close to his, question his reading comprehension skills, call him a fanboy, and defend the show by claiming that it 'doesn't pick on companies for no reason', because apparently anything on TV is trustworthy, right? It's not like they'd go after such a large company to boost ratings...
Watchdogs is the UK equivalent of Consumer Reports; an organization with no affiliation to any sort of regulatory body whatsoever. Period. If its ratings go down, it gets cancelled like any other show.
Don't you have another game / company to go bitch about somewhere?
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That people would try to sue Blizzard without at least attempting to read the ToS first.
or
That people in the UK think this show is actually journalism.
Speaking as UK gamer, kind of wondering why all the whining about the game, its been working for me perfectly fine since last sunday, as for the BBC Watchdog program, did that even happen? seems a bit of an odd thing for them to cover tbh.
edit.
Just checked, its just a twitter comment by a few people, nothing to do with the program on BBC, as Watchdog do not seem to be taking any interest, so its just a few wannabee's trying to make it look like its something real, when it isn't.. no surprise there i guess, did seem to be a strange thing for the show to even cover.
Originally posted by Xiaoki I don't know about the European servers but the NA servers have been fine for days now. Some major servers might still have queues but that's not Blizzard's problem.
Yeah, seems like the gamers only want to nerd rage and if they can do it on the Telly then that's much better.
Wow for me is best game ever made and nothing will take from me having fun. Even when for sure I'm not happy not being able to enter garrison, can't complete some quest, ... Usually all solves fast, quest dropped and then re-acquired and then completed, .... Yes ... annoying, but like too much overall wow to be disappointed because of this.
Also I'm on Bronze Dragonflight that never had any problems with queues. Well I admit if I would not be able to log in at all as many had I would be pretty pissed off :-), but would for sure not make me even remotely drop of wow for ever. That is just silly assumption.
Only thing that really makes me however angry or disappointed a lot are that terrible new models. If I would start from scratch I would maybe not even have problems. But what they did has nothing to do with DETAIL but has to do with COMPLETE CHANGE to LOOK of body parts. What I see now with new models when I look at character selection screen are NOT MY avatars just made better, i'm looking at TOTAL STRANGERS. This is what makes me angry or/and disappointed for the very first time in history of Wow.
Check here this abomination that I really do not understand how they managed this:
The thing you guys don't understand is the fact that when you go from 10 million costumers to 4 million of course you will reduce the amount of servers and bandwith that goes into them. And with all the players crying during the beta and before release, they could not afford to take a chance and upgrade right away everything back like it was before the drop of subs.
Now you got 5 free days and that is way more then your 2 or 3 days of Q time that you have got. That means you made 1.00$ profit out of Blizzard. Because you subs is 15$ / 30 days = 0.50 cents a day to play.
Omg guys the players will be broke!!! Omg they lost so much time out of there lives it is unreal. Give them a cookie and a glass of milk and take out the pop corn we got are self a show. It is called a players Tantrum.
So the BBC gave Blizzard free advertisement about the massive success of their expansion ?
The Blizzard managers must be laughing all the way to the bank.
So far the BBC isn't involved, but yeah, if they did, it would be just more free advertisement of the game, and with reports of subs now being over 10 million again, at least according to IGN, which is a bit of an 'iffy' source at best, maybe we'll see 12 million again next week!
... more likely to happen than a BBC watchdog program about Blizzard imo..
One of the things i've noticed - Google is your friend here, is that there are people going around various MMO sites, and trying to persuade people to report Blizzard to the BBC, probably the group doing this is very small, but with a very definite agenda, which kind of reminds me of the sub reddit that one guy shut down in protest, and was promptly removed from the admin of the sub reddit and it given over to someone else
And now we have a small group of people going around trying to drum up support for a BBC Watchdog investigation on every platform they can reach, i doubt its a coincidence. And i also doubt it would be enough to generate interest from BBC Watchdog anyway. I don't see any Watchdog edition about Blizzard happening, pretty much ever.
Which makes you wonder what those people will do when they don't get their way, i mean, its not like they can shut down a sub reddit again is it
Well let's see how their other pathetic tactics work:
1) Cry and whine like an entitled little shit...Failed
2) Demand 30 days free because you couldn't log in for 3 days...Failed they only got 5
3) Change.org petition...Failed
4) Threaten lawsuits...Failed
its clear these idiots are nothing but failures. They will continue to cry and whine bacause their parents and teachers told them they are special snowflakes. They got trophies for finishing last their entire life. It's frightening these type may run the world some day...
Now, now, don't be too hard on them.
You're a mere 34 and I'm 55, but let's be clear: we were both exactly like this at a young age as well. Once we graduated from high school/university and realized that everything they taught us was a lie and that life isn't fair, we were able to adjust our world view into something a bit more reasonable. It will happen to them as well.
It's easy to be idealistic when someone else is paying your life expenses.
So many blizzard apologists its hilarious. Keep it going guys, you're going to surpass the TESO whiteknights in these boards. attaboy
They straightforward lied about being under DDoS, just like Trion and every other MMO studio. Fact of the matter is, nobody gives a shit about those studios to DDoS them for no profit. They had massive surge in players and still did nothing. An year ago at least Square Enix stopped sales to accomodate the already paying bunch. That's why they have a good name at the moment. Blizzard however ..... well ... lets just say this is not the blizzard from 10 years ago.
You don't need to apologize on the behalf of a massive gaming company that rips people off. They have PR teams for that. Let those guys work a little to earn their salaries. Stop doing their job
What folks like you miss is no one is defending or making up excuses on issues like this, they're simply putting &*^% into perspective, which is often lost in said discussions. I for one can't stand blizzard's games, just don't like em, yet it's obvious to me folks are taking this a bit far. Said show is going to look kinda silly considering most everything that went wrong will be long fixed by the time it airs.
Indeed. It's actually kind've funny when someone hates something so much -- or joins in a mob mentality -- that they lose perspective with reality. Prior to this person's response, there was just people chuckling at the concept of a T.V. show that isn't a part of the industry speaking on the matter and that people actually tried to take it to them. Then he goes about bold statements without sources or facts to show for it and essentially implies anyone who disagrees with him a white knight.
There was someone who even went as far as to state false advertisement and link a Google definition (lol). They should not enter the legal field, as they'd be laugh out of existence and don't even seem to understand the basics (not claiming to be an expert myself, but corporate lingo is a different beast altogether when dealing with the term "false advertisement"). If they say a game is going to be up, and it is up. It is up. It doesn't matter if there's a queue to get in. It's up and online. That's like demanding your food free in a drive through because they offer quick service and there is a line of 20 cars in front of you. Sure, you can ask Blizzard for a refund and they will probably give it to you (in fact, I know people who have received such), but if you took it to court I guarantee you Blizzard would win hands down.
The famous error of Diablo III -- a game that, to this date, has 15+ million copies purchased -- was one in such that it actually was not available. There was no queue, just an error. If there was a queue, then you're in line to get in and you have to realize, as an adult, that you aren't the only person in the world. The game is up, you have access to it; it will log you in immediately when possible and you could even leave the computer as it did it for you. Diablo III, not so much. Only if a server was down for hours on end -- without being scheduled maintenance -- would this be considered true, and only for those few hours. Though that's just screwing over any MMO company where the reality of things do not meet with unrealistic expectations. One could technically demand a refund after months of playing and the game was down for 15 minutes, if they had no morals. They probably wouldn't get it and, again, would be laughed at. But they could certainly try.
Whenever there is downtime that isn't scheduled, anyone could contact Blizzard in particular and ask for the time to be refunded. They have given it 100% of the time for everyone I know who has done it (including myself). Just recently they gave five days to everyone.
Due to frequent travel in my youth, English isn't something I consider my primary language (and thus I obtained quirky ways of writing). German and French were always easier for me despite my family being U.S. citizens for over a century. Spanish I learned as a requirement in school, Japanese and Korean I acquired for my youthful desire of anime and gaming (and also work now). I only debate in English to help me work with it (and limit things). In addition, I'm not smart enough to remain fluent in everything and typically need exposure to get in the groove of things again if I haven't heard it in a while. If you understand Mandarin, I know a little, but it has actually been a challenge and could use some help.
Also, I thoroughly enjoy debates and have accounts on over a dozen sites for this. If you wish to engage in such, please put effort in a post and provide sources -- I will then do the same with what I already wrote (if I didn't) as well as with my responses to your own. Expanding my information on a subject makes my stance either change or strengthen the next time I speak of it or write a thesis. Allow me to thank you sincerely for your time.
anyone who saw this will know the report was a joke.
a few nerds crying that they couldn't login for a few days, a statement from Blizzard saying they had a problem and a virus but had fixed all problems and given 5 days free access - mixed in with a few minutes of talk on what WoW is and some ingame footage - it was indeed great advertisement for the game (why does the BBC advertise such rubbish is another issue)
so much for a report on consumers being conned huh - who ever thought that haha
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Lol yes! This will be the beginning of the end for WoW once and for all! A couple idiots will go on TV and cry how they couldn't log in to a VIDEO GAME for THREE DAYS. The show will turn around and tell people Oh my did you hear that THREE DAYS! The idiots will be like yeah we demanded 30 DAYS FREE and they only gave us 5 FREE DAYS! The host will ask did you read the TOS AND EULA? Suddenly the show ends...
Yeah I'm sure it will have a huge financial impact lol. The guys who pull out the ignorant lawsuit threats, pathetic petitions and now watchdog TV shows are nothing but a bunch of entitled little shits being a drain on society.
Blizzards marketing dep must having a party now. Free advertising on prime time BBC! Must be worth millions.
Just waiting for those tin foil hats to accuse Blizz for making this "lawsuit" up.
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I would have totally understand and fully supported them, if they had done this with Ubisoft and their rip off / disaster With Assassins Creed Unity!
But for an expansion launch that had just a few days trouble due to DDoS attacks and sheer volume of players. Issues that are now pretty much solved and gone for most. /shrug
Blizzard here was again victim of their own success. I honestly don´t think (anyone for that matter) that over 3 million People would come back for this expansion and them having over 10 million subs again.
So no, this is not a good sign! They took action on the wrong company! As again, I would have fully understand and supported them if it was Ubisoft. As that company deserves all the flack they can get right now. /sigh
Pretty much /thread right there. But they also gave out 5 free days to apologize for the issues, which they didn't even have to do.
THOSE BASTARDS!
I don't know which I find more amusing:
That people would try to sue Blizzard without at least attempting to read the ToS first.
or
That people in the UK think this show is actually journalism.
Great publicity for Blizzard.
Some junkies/ nerds could not always log in for a few days and got 5 days EXTRA for free.
I want to see the journalist who will burn himself on this one.
Spectator: did you know that WoW is back with 10 million subscribers ... ? I wanna go back ! Where is the buy button ?
Honest i could have buy that argument if it was Blizzard 1st expansion but serious come on the have been around with WoW now for 10 year and the still have not learn anything from there early expansion.
At this point in WoW life blizzard should know the most people will come and the it will be queue times but do you think it is ok sit in queue for almost 5 hour if not longer to login to your main char to lvl him/her up?
I need to PAY for char transfer to other server just so i could lvl up my main char for my main server for it was lag like hell and have mini 5 hour queue time and sit in queue to LFG and when i click enter the dungeon i get kick back out in to queue just to enter same group and when i enter the dungeon is empty serious you think that is ok?
As a customer we should have right to complain and each time you do on blizzard forum your post get other close down or remove or you get bane for speak your mind if any other company would do like that the would lose customer or get report to National Board for Consumer Policies for you are a paying customer you have right to demand that product you are pay for should work everytime you use it.
But blizzard is just like all other big company the don't gave rat asss about there customer as long as earn money the don't care much about anything else fact is that blizzard customer policy/support is one off worst in the mmo genre and know other mmo game that if you send the email it take the only 24 hour to answer or if you phone them it take less then 24 hour for call back but if you try to get in contact with blizzard support you 9 out 10 get standard answer in email and you have wait mini 3 day to answer and if you phone the can not help you most of time.
So yeah i think is not more then right that BBC Watchdog is take look at how blizzard act again there customer.
Haha yeah I'm sure the bbc will really put it to Blizzard lol what joke.
So people like you expect Blizzard to waste money and increase their infrastructure to be able to handle a huge rush that last 3 days right? That's ignorant to expect that. A restaurant would not build a building to hold 1000 customers when they know after the first week they will have 500 customers.
You and others had to sit in queues for what THREE DAYS! What does Blizzard give everyone FIVE FREE DAYS!
It was not Blizzard forcing you to be on a high Pop server that was YOUR CHOICE yeah WoW has been around even me who CHOOSES to play on a low pop server know HIGH POP SERVETS HAVE HUGE QUEUES DURING LAUNCHED! So don't cry you have "to pay " to transfer it was YOUR CHOICE to begin with.
Deleteing threads? Read the TOS/EULA it talks about a few things I will highlight a few for you since it's clear you never read it. First spamming the same topic over and over is against the rules and threads WILL BE deleted to clean up the forums. When you have 10 crying whining I quit threads because you have to wait in line that will constitute deleting a few of them. Second in the TOS/EULA that you and the rest still crying and still thinking this bbc garbage will do something didn't read it states Blizzard will at times close worlds, do maintenance and have queues. They never state it will be on 365 days 24/7.
They don't give a rats ass about their customers hmm? They worked day and night to fix the issues it took them THREE DAYS to fix issues so 10 MILLION people (most are extremely happy customers) can enjoy what many are calling a "great expansion" "most fun I've had in years".
Well anyways good luck lol how desperate can these people get? Whining and crying failed, change.org petition failed, lawsuits failed, now a stupid bbf TV show will fail. Hey don't worry only 10 more years about crying and whining about Wow. Have fun!
Do you even understand how to argue? All you've done in this thread is make unfounded accusations, fail to provide proof of said accusations, make unfounded claims as to the affiliation of Watchdog, and resort to not only lying, but outright ignoring anything ripping your 'arguments' to shred, but using nothing but straw man fallacies and ad hominem.
Just look at this one. The poster you're arguing with attempts to inform you that you are mistaken as to the affiliation of the program Watchdogs. How do you respond? By re-iterating a point not even remotely close to his, question his reading comprehension skills, call him a fanboy, and defend the show by claiming that it 'doesn't pick on companies for no reason', because apparently anything on TV is trustworthy, right? It's not like they'd go after such a large company to boost ratings...
Watchdogs is the UK equivalent of Consumer Reports; an organization with no affiliation to any sort of regulatory body whatsoever. Period. If its ratings go down, it gets cancelled like any other show.
Don't you have another game / company to go bitch about somewhere?
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Speaking as UK gamer, kind of wondering why all the whining about the game, its been working for me perfectly fine since last sunday, as for the BBC Watchdog program, did that even happen? seems a bit of an odd thing for them to cover tbh.
edit.
Just checked, its just a twitter comment by a few people, nothing to do with the program on BBC, as Watchdog do not seem to be taking any interest, so its just a few wannabee's trying to make it look like its something real, when it isn't.. no surprise there i guess, did seem to be a strange thing for the show to even cover.
Wow for me is best game ever made and nothing will take from me having fun. Even when for sure I'm not happy not being able to enter garrison, can't complete some quest, ... Usually all solves fast, quest dropped and then re-acquired and then completed, .... Yes ... annoying, but like too much overall wow to be disappointed because of this.
Also I'm on Bronze Dragonflight that never had any problems with queues. Well I admit if I would not be able to log in at all as many had I would be pretty pissed off :-), but would for sure not make me even remotely drop of wow for ever. That is just silly assumption.
Only thing that really makes me however angry or disappointed a lot are that terrible new models. If I would start from scratch I would maybe not even have problems. But what they did has nothing to do with DETAIL but has to do with COMPLETE CHANGE to LOOK of body parts. What I see now with new models when I look at character selection screen are NOT MY avatars just made better, i'm looking at TOTAL STRANGERS. This is what makes me angry or/and disappointed for the very first time in history of Wow.
Check here this abomination that I really do not understand how they managed this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pu9rv2ojbbqbpge/WODNewModels.jpg?dl=0
For now I’m on old models and just hope they never remove this option until they fix this abomination.
The thing you guys don't understand is the fact that when you go from 10 million costumers to 4 million of course you will reduce the amount of servers and bandwith that goes into them. And with all the players crying during the beta and before release, they could not afford to take a chance and upgrade right away everything back like it was before the drop of subs.
Now you got 5 free days and that is way more then your 2 or 3 days of Q time that you have got. That means you made 1.00$ profit out of Blizzard. Because you subs is 15$ / 30 days = 0.50 cents a day to play.
Omg guys the players will be broke!!! Omg they lost so much time out of there lives it is unreal. Give them a cookie and a glass of milk and take out the pop corn we got are self a show. It is called a players Tantrum.
Edit : corrected the word Tantrum
So far the BBC isn't involved, but yeah, if they did, it would be just more free advertisement of the game, and with reports of subs now being over 10 million again, at least according to IGN, which is a bit of an 'iffy' source at best, maybe we'll see 12 million again next week!
... more likely to happen than a BBC watchdog program about Blizzard imo..
One of the things i've noticed - Google is your friend here, is that there are people going around various MMO sites, and trying to persuade people to report Blizzard to the BBC, probably the group doing this is very small, but with a very definite agenda, which kind of reminds me of the sub reddit that one guy shut down in protest, and was promptly removed from the admin of the sub reddit and it given over to someone else
And now we have a small group of people going around trying to drum up support for a BBC Watchdog investigation on every platform they can reach, i doubt its a coincidence. And i also doubt it would be enough to generate interest from BBC Watchdog anyway. I don't see any Watchdog edition about Blizzard happening, pretty much ever.
Which makes you wonder what those people will do when they don't get their way, i mean, its not like they can shut down a sub reddit again is it
Now, now, don't be too hard on them.
You're a mere 34 and I'm 55, but let's be clear: we were both exactly like this at a young age as well. Once we graduated from high school/university and realized that everything they taught us was a lie and that life isn't fair, we were able to adjust our world view into something a bit more reasonable. It will happen to them as well.
It's easy to be idealistic when someone else is paying your life expenses.
Indeed. It's actually kind've funny when someone hates something so much -- or joins in a mob mentality -- that they lose perspective with reality. Prior to this person's response, there was just people chuckling at the concept of a T.V. show that isn't a part of the industry speaking on the matter and that people actually tried to take it to them. Then he goes about bold statements without sources or facts to show for it and essentially implies anyone who disagrees with him a white knight.
There was someone who even went as far as to state false advertisement and link a Google definition (lol). They should not enter the legal field, as they'd be laugh out of existence and don't even seem to understand the basics (not claiming to be an expert myself, but corporate lingo is a different beast altogether when dealing with the term "false advertisement"). If they say a game is going to be up, and it is up. It is up. It doesn't matter if there's a queue to get in. It's up and online. That's like demanding your food free in a drive through because they offer quick service and there is a line of 20 cars in front of you. Sure, you can ask Blizzard for a refund and they will probably give it to you (in fact, I know people who have received such), but if you took it to court I guarantee you Blizzard would win hands down.
The famous error of Diablo III -- a game that, to this date, has 15+ million copies purchased -- was one in such that it actually was not available. There was no queue, just an error. If there was a queue, then you're in line to get in and you have to realize, as an adult, that you aren't the only person in the world. The game is up, you have access to it; it will log you in immediately when possible and you could even leave the computer as it did it for you. Diablo III, not so much. Only if a server was down for hours on end -- without being scheduled maintenance -- would this be considered true, and only for those few hours. Though that's just screwing over any MMO company where the reality of things do not meet with unrealistic expectations. One could technically demand a refund after months of playing and the game was down for 15 minutes, if they had no morals. They probably wouldn't get it and, again, would be laughed at. But they could certainly try.
Whenever there is downtime that isn't scheduled, anyone could contact Blizzard in particular and ask for the time to be refunded. They have given it 100% of the time for everyone I know who has done it (including myself). Just recently they gave five days to everyone.
And the press loves these things, if they can damage a company, they will allways do so..
I have been playing since D-day and have actually only had minor problems on EU servers...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
This is amazing advertising, TV prime time for no cost over a minimal issue that will last a week or two.
Blizzard must be so happy, this isn't even negative. It's saying we are so incredibly popular we are stuggling to meet demand!
anyone who saw this will know the report was a joke.
a few nerds crying that they couldn't login for a few days, a statement from Blizzard saying they had a problem and a virus but had fixed all problems and given 5 days free access - mixed in with a few minutes of talk on what WoW is and some ingame footage - it was indeed great advertisement for the game (why does the BBC advertise such rubbish is another issue)
so much for a report on consumers being conned huh - who ever thought that haha