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H1Z1: Release Date Expected Today

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  • stevebombsquadstevebombsquad Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Originally posted by nbtscan
    Originally posted by ReaperUk

    Better face it, you're not going to have many alternative games to play if that's how you think. This post made me think back over the past ten years and I can't think of a single mmo I've played in that time that's still only P2P. They all have a F2P option now., apart of course from the ones that had to close down.

    There are still sub-only games, unless you mean ones you've personally played.  WoW, FFXI, FFXIV, Eve, others I've probably never played do not have F2P options.  

    Now are studios that aren't top tier such as Blizzard and Square Enix going to release a purely P2P MMORPG going forward?  Probably not.

    You can add ESO and WS to that too. They haven't gone F2P yet. 

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  • kinkyJalepenokinkyJalepeno Member UncommonPosts: 1,044
    Originally posted by Denambren
    Originally posted by klagmire

    Official game release date? or early beta access release date?

    I personally refuse to pay for a beta testing, they should be paying me. Seems like Star Citizen has somehow fooled people that's its ok to pay for a unfinished game.

    Looks like H1z1 will be a good game though, when its actually out. I have a station pass, wonder if that grants early access?

    1) Star Citizen is still being funded 100% as a kickstarter with no investor money as support, *Snip

     

    Bit of a contradiction there fella...  No investor money?  So what do you think kickstarter actually does?

    On topic - I'm watching the game but only mildly interested until I see some decent gameplay and have a good look at the crafting/building side of things..
  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,960
    Originally posted by Wolfhammer
    Originally posted by Denambren
    Originally posted by klagmire

    Official game release date? or early beta access release date?

    I personally refuse to pay for a beta testing, they should be paying me. Seems like Star Citizen has somehow fooled people that's its ok to pay for a unfinished game.

    Looks like H1z1 will be a good game though, when its actually out. I have a station pass, wonder if that grants early access?

    1) Star Citizen is still being funded 100% as a kickstarter with no investor money as support, *Snip

     

    Bit of a contradiction there fella...  No investor money?  So what do you think kickstarter actually does?

    On topic - I'm watching the game but only mildly interested until I see some decent gameplay and have a good look at the crafting/building side of things..

    Kickstarter backers aren't investors, they're donators. Investors generally have say in the development of the game, can back out when they wish (exceptions exist, of course), and ideally are given a monetary return on their investment. Furthermore, they're also protected by various local, federal, and international laws.

    Donators do not have a say in the game's development past what the developers want them to. While many may be expecting a copy of the finished product, they receive no monetary return whatsoever. Because it's a voluntary donation, the person receiving it can do pretty much whatever they want with near impunity. There is no regulation in place to guarantee that a promised product or service will ever be delivered, or delivered with the same functionality initially advertised.

    Or in other words, investors = control, expectation, and legal protection, while donators = no control, no return on 'investment', and little to no legal protection.

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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    Originally posted by Denambren
    Originally posted by klagmire

    Official game release date? or early beta access release date?

    I personally refuse to pay for a beta testing, they should be paying me. Seems like Star Citizen has somehow fooled people that's its ok to pay for a unfinished game.

    Looks like H1z1 will be a good game though, when its actually out. I have a station pass, wonder if that grants early access?

    1) Star Citizen is still being funded 100% as a kickstarter with no investor money as support, so not paying for the game before it was launched would mean there is no game.

     

    2) For the first year or so of Star Citizen's kickstarter campaign, CIG charged 35$ for the full game and alpha/beta access, which was cheaper than what the full retail cost would be for the game. After the first year, they charged 45$ until they hit the max number of alpha slots (around 500,000). After that, they now charge 5$ per alpha slot in addition to the full game price, to cover bandwidth and server costs since they now have enough beta testers.

     

    Please do not drag Cloud Imperium Games into a comparison with Sony Entertainment for business practices until doing more research on CIG and Star Citizen.

     

    They made their money with the ships you buy, even though there is no game to actually use them in.

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