Honestly it has its detractors and it has its defenders. I suggest do a search and look at the many threads that have covered it. I can tell you I knew many people who tried it and none of them are currently playing it anymore.
The game is great. I loved the whole idea. The crafting the ships the PvP. All great!
But..
When everytime you want to do the next step or complete the next tier they have a gangster kick you in the shin and shake you down for loose change(after they already took all the greenbacks) you start to feel abused.
I played for about a month and a half, had good land farms decent tier crafted items but when I checked how much I acully spent it was over $200 for a little over a month!
Well I hope they realze players a willing to pay for a game like that but the whole shake down thing was bad.. Really bad!
I judge every game by what you actually spend 99% of the time doing.A game can claim anything ti wants but if all you do is login to grind instances,that is a real shallow game and no it would not be considered a good game.
I feel AA has a lot to do to keep you happy however the problem was the way Trion wanted to cash in via the labor point system.A pay to win system will ALWAYS create argument and a heated debate so NOT an intelligent move by Trion.
I will admit that i would have been a decent long time player IF not run by Trion,i think MANY now realize how bad the business really is.I also have a moral standard to not support a business entity i don't like so i won't.I quit ROM a game i was enjoying long ago because Frogster wanted me to blow up their entire operation with a nuclear bomb they made me so mad,they even stole money from me and tried to argue it with cue card reading support that had no clue about the game or the topic on hand.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
It's good if you're a patron. It's rough if you're a free player until you can make enough money to buy patron status within game. That's not including the grind... leveling is easy, though.
i tried it up to level 20 and it seems very generic..It wasnt bad but seems like every cookie cutter mmorpg up to that point..im sure at late game it might open up but u going to spend quite some time getting to that point....and while u grinding to get to that point its gonna be like zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Interesting farming mechanic that ties in with trade.
Very large open world that is easy to explore, and has great ways to explore it like hang gliders and very nice boats
Very group oriented (could be good or bad depending on what you want), but you can also potter about by yourself and have an enjoyable time, although you won't be able to craft top gear doing that.
Extensive crafting system.
Interesting multiclassing system.
I can't think of any other mmo it really compares to. It sort of has trading elements like in uncharted waters (not as deep as that game though), and a farming game which I haven't played in other mmos and these aspects tie somewhat into owpvp, where people can attack you in some areas and take your trade goods, although you can pretty much completely avoid pvp if you want - or become a "pirate" and try and do owpvp all the time. The animations remind me a bit of Rift as well as the combat system to a degree.
Your best bet is to try it yourself, unfortunately the game experience was ruined for me due to the dupes/hacks that XL doesn't seem to want to fix plus Trions incompetence to punish those abusing exploits/hacks. The game is very gear based over skill (skill does still play a part but not as much as your gear). Overall AA has it's moments and I did have my fun with the game but like I said before my experience with it has been ruined.
Archeage is a pretty cool game that is being ruined by the publisher. Alpha was pretty much the pinnacle of my fun with Archeage.
As a person who bought in and played during Alpha I feel the game has degraded due to the publisher attempting to over monetize both subscribers and F2P users. I feel that subscribers should not be put in a position to use the cash shop, and I feel like F2P guys are not given options to fairly pick and choose what features they wish to spend on.
Labor is at a constant bleed regardless of your play style. Once you run out (and you WILL) not playing for 3 days is the only free way to gain it back (or finding exploits to stay online and cut that time in half). Or you can pay more money for the pots. The problem is every single thing you do costs labor.
Housing and land ownership problems is an issue directly caused by the publishers decision making.
There is an issue with bots, there IS an issue with gold sellers, there is an issue with cheaters. The publisher isn't doing a good job and their executive leaders ARE liars and have been caught in lies about services that are supposed to be rendered to subscribers.
People who are willing to spend large sums of money DO have an advantage when it comes to gear and gear DOES effect encounters.
Outside of the many problems Archeage has (many of which are self inflicted by Trion ineptitude and bad decision making/leadership) people like the game because it has bright spots in the game play and economy. The game is FAR from perfect but if a publisher observed and simply made a better game that addressed these mistakes THEY would have a potential MMORPG great.
Try the game with a grain of salt in hand. Don't pay attention to white knights who make excuses all the time and DEFINITELY ignore ignoramuses who would "rather lick toilets" than play a game they haven't played and just heard about.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
Originally posted by immodium You can download and try it for yourself as it's F2P.
Heh.
I have 2 patron accounts and have not spent a dime on the game.
But keep on spewing misinformation......
Fact - the game us 100% free to play with all items in cash shop obtainable from the AH for in game gold
For people that don't have an obsession or 15 hours a day to spend playing 1 game, it's not worth your time to play this game.
It is full of cheaters and whales who spend thousands of dollars a month to gain an advantage.
Whales are how ALL F2P games get funded as whales pay for 80% of the playerbase that doesn't spend any money.
As far as "cheaters" to say the game is "full" of them is a gross exaggeration. They are a tiny minority as is the case in any PvP game.
You are again delusional. Before I quite, more than half my guild, of 120 or so, had gear from GHA, that was acquired by glitching the bosses. This was just 1 guild and just 1 exploit. Then the plex duping started. Cheaters are a minority in any other MMO game. This one, unfortunately, is so full of holes there are many more cheaters. You can go back to the pasture with the rest of the sheep that thinks this game is good.
Not all f2p games are p2w. Other games, you can't buy a very real advantage with money. There is no way for someone to own 25 parcels of land without paying with real money. There is no way people had 90k in some crafting profs within weeks of release without buying labor potions. Get real bro.
Could have been a good game, but due to a number of screw-ups and intentionally bad design choices and blatant cash shop funneling, the pluses are far outweighed by the minuses..
At its heart, it was just another Asian grinder, but had some nice bells and whistles, and decent crafting.
But then, comes the land grab cheating, which means (or meant) you could not get a lot for a farm/house.
And then there is the labor point cash shop funneling. Even if you are "paying a sub" equivalent, you easily run out of labor points in a gaming session (even if you are not a hardcore player) and then off to the cash shop for labor potions. Insulting.
And then there are the bots, tons of them. Everywhere. Spammers. Everywhere.
And then there are the hacks, many of which were systematic and some are still going on. Borked the economy, and then some. Still screwed, probably won't recover how it was handled.
On top of all of that, is how Trion/XL responded to these things, and it is to say, not well, at all. Worst game management by any company since SOE. Maybe worse than Cryptic, even.
See where I am going with this?
And all of THAT is separate from the fact that after you progress beyond a certain point it is a HUGE wall of grind. Did I say huge, I meant insanely gigantic.
So, in the end, skip this game, and save yourself the disappointment.
Thank you all for so many great responses...I usually dont ask about a MMO, buit this one was different......I heard so much hype from beta, how it was supposed to finally be THE great sandbox game we all had waited for, but I had alot of concerns.....FIrst off Trion....Didnt like Rift and its total ripoff of WoW.....Also I ahve had terrible luick with Korean type games....Its just the mindset that turns me off in so many of these games and it sounds like this one is another brick in the wall.......Like some of you have said, it is free and theres nothing to lose to download......Personally I dont need to be overly competitive in video games, I am just looking to have some fun.....Cash shops and P2W are no temptation for me so I will have a look.
The game is 'F2P' so the only thing it costs you to try it, is time. It is a heavily PVP orientated game, it is also a themepark, although once you reach max level it apparently acquires more sandbox features, i haven't done that myself, but, reputedly this is the case.
The game sadly has more than its fair share of gold spammers etc, something that 99.9% of new F2P games suffer from, and quite a few P2P games for that matter.
The nearest game i could compare it to, is probably DF;UW, the main differences being Archeage is heavily cash shop orientated, everything you do in game practically is limited/confined to within a labour point limitation, which encourages people to subscribe as the game is also a F2P/P2P hybrid, much the same as SW;TOR, both games put fairly heavy limitations on their F2P players, which are removed once you become a subscriber, subscribers in Archeage also get increased LP generation, and regenerate LP when their offline also.
In terms of PVP, its worth bearing in mind that the game is Level and Gear based in terms of combat, if you wish to compete, then you need to be max level and decently kitted out, joining a guild is an absolute necessity, as while you can solo in the game, it is not an easy experience and you will die a lot. But if you do enjoy team based PVP games then Archeage does have a lot to offer in that regard.
You lose nothing by trying the game yourself to discover if its the game for you, so if your even mildly interested, then go ahead and try it
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Heh.
DMKano is overly biased.
I will also add that the game is full of bugs, cheaters and bots.
No, it's not. At all.
You're welcome.
For people that don't have an obsession or 15 hours a day to spend playing 1 game, it's not worth your time to play this game.
It is full of cheaters and whales who spend thousands of dollars a month to gain an advantage.
The game is great. I loved the whole idea. The crafting the ships the PvP. All great!
But..
When everytime you want to do the next step or complete the next tier they have a gangster kick you in the shin and shake you down for loose change(after they already took all the greenbacks) you start to feel abused.
I played for about a month and a half, had good land farms decent tier crafted items but when I checked how much I acully spent it was over $200 for a little over a month!
Well I hope they realze players a willing to pay for a game like that but the whole shake down thing was bad.. Really bad!
If your not botting tradepacks near constatly you are buying gold to get this to work.Lie all you want it was engeneered to be this way
Does not matter if the game is good or not
In current state hacks and exploits are still rampant
Guild s are sponsoring land hack even as of today
Trade packs are being blocked and being forced off cart using in game hack which is a bannable offense
Apex is still not fixed so removed from the game.
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If you are not planning to exploit then this game is not for u.
I shelled out $150 and the best time was in alpha
I judge every game by what you actually spend 99% of the time doing.A game can claim anything ti wants but if all you do is login to grind instances,that is a real shallow game and no it would not be considered a good game.
I feel AA has a lot to do to keep you happy however the problem was the way Trion wanted to cash in via the labor point system.A pay to win system will ALWAYS create argument and a heated debate so NOT an intelligent move by Trion.
I will admit that i would have been a decent long time player IF not run by Trion,i think MANY now realize how bad the business really is.I also have a moral standard to not support a business entity i don't like so i won't.I quit ROM a game i was enjoying long ago because Frogster wanted me to blow up their entire operation with a nuclear bomb they made me so mad,they even stole money from me and tried to argue it with cue card reading support that had no clue about the game or the topic on hand.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
OP,
I would take a trip over to the AA forums. Once you read all the terrible things Trion/XLGames are doing over there then you will avoid it.
It is just like any other asian MMO, and somewhat dated I might add.
It is F2P so just try out for yourself.
Yes its good. Some of the good points:
Interesting trading mechanic.
Interesting farming mechanic that ties in with trade.
Very large open world that is easy to explore, and has great ways to explore it like hang gliders and very nice boats
Very group oriented (could be good or bad depending on what you want), but you can also potter about by yourself and have an enjoyable time, although you won't be able to craft top gear doing that.
Extensive crafting system.
Interesting multiclassing system.
I can't think of any other mmo it really compares to. It sort of has trading elements like in uncharted waters (not as deep as that game though), and a farming game which I haven't played in other mmos and these aspects tie somewhat into owpvp, where people can attack you in some areas and take your trade goods, although you can pretty much completely avoid pvp if you want - or become a "pirate" and try and do owpvp all the time. The animations remind me a bit of Rift as well as the combat system to a degree.
Your best bet is to try it yourself, unfortunately the game experience was ruined for me due to the dupes/hacks that XL doesn't seem to want to fix plus Trions incompetence to punish those abusing exploits/hacks. The game is very gear based over skill (skill does still play a part but not as much as your gear). Overall AA has it's moments and I did have my fun with the game but like I said before my experience with it has been ruined.
Archeage is a pretty cool game that is being ruined by the publisher. Alpha was pretty much the pinnacle of my fun with Archeage.
As a person who bought in and played during Alpha I feel the game has degraded due to the publisher attempting to over monetize both subscribers and F2P users. I feel that subscribers should not be put in a position to use the cash shop, and I feel like F2P guys are not given options to fairly pick and choose what features they wish to spend on.
Labor is at a constant bleed regardless of your play style. Once you run out (and you WILL) not playing for 3 days is the only free way to gain it back (or finding exploits to stay online and cut that time in half). Or you can pay more money for the pots. The problem is every single thing you do costs labor.
Housing and land ownership problems is an issue directly caused by the publishers decision making.
There is an issue with bots, there IS an issue with gold sellers, there is an issue with cheaters. The publisher isn't doing a good job and their executive leaders ARE liars and have been caught in lies about services that are supposed to be rendered to subscribers.
People who are willing to spend large sums of money DO have an advantage when it comes to gear and gear DOES effect encounters.
Outside of the many problems Archeage has (many of which are self inflicted by Trion ineptitude and bad decision making/leadership) people like the game because it has bright spots in the game play and economy. The game is FAR from perfect but if a publisher observed and simply made a better game that addressed these mistakes THEY would have a potential MMORPG great.
Try the game with a grain of salt in hand. Don't pay attention to white knights who make excuses all the time and DEFINITELY ignore ignoramuses who would "rather lick toilets" than play a game they haven't played and just heard about.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You are again delusional. Before I quite, more than half my guild, of 120 or so, had gear from GHA, that was acquired by glitching the bosses. This was just 1 guild and just 1 exploit. Then the plex duping started. Cheaters are a minority in any other MMO game. This one, unfortunately, is so full of holes there are many more cheaters. You can go back to the pasture with the rest of the sheep that thinks this game is good.
Not all f2p games are p2w. Other games, you can't buy a very real advantage with money. There is no way for someone to own 25 parcels of land without paying with real money. There is no way people had 90k in some crafting profs within weeks of release without buying labor potions. Get real bro.
Could have been a good game, but due to a number of screw-ups and intentionally bad design choices and blatant cash shop funneling, the pluses are far outweighed by the minuses..
At its heart, it was just another Asian grinder, but had some nice bells and whistles, and decent crafting.
But then, comes the land grab cheating, which means (or meant) you could not get a lot for a farm/house.
And then there is the labor point cash shop funneling. Even if you are "paying a sub" equivalent, you easily run out of labor points in a gaming session (even if you are not a hardcore player) and then off to the cash shop for labor potions. Insulting.
And then there are the bots, tons of them. Everywhere. Spammers. Everywhere.
And then there are the hacks, many of which were systematic and some are still going on. Borked the economy, and then some. Still screwed, probably won't recover how it was handled.
On top of all of that, is how Trion/XL responded to these things, and it is to say, not well, at all. Worst game management by any company since SOE. Maybe worse than Cryptic, even.
See where I am going with this?
And all of THAT is separate from the fact that after you progress beyond a certain point it is a HUGE wall of grind. Did I say huge, I meant insanely gigantic.
So, in the end, skip this game, and save yourself the disappointment.
The game is 'F2P' so the only thing it costs you to try it, is time. It is a heavily PVP orientated game, it is also a themepark, although once you reach max level it apparently acquires more sandbox features, i haven't done that myself, but, reputedly this is the case.
The game sadly has more than its fair share of gold spammers etc, something that 99.9% of new F2P games suffer from, and quite a few P2P games for that matter.
The nearest game i could compare it to, is probably DF;UW, the main differences being Archeage is heavily cash shop orientated, everything you do in game practically is limited/confined to within a labour point limitation, which encourages people to subscribe as the game is also a F2P/P2P hybrid, much the same as SW;TOR, both games put fairly heavy limitations on their F2P players, which are removed once you become a subscriber, subscribers in Archeage also get increased LP generation, and regenerate LP when their offline also.
In terms of PVP, its worth bearing in mind that the game is Level and Gear based in terms of combat, if you wish to compete, then you need to be max level and decently kitted out, joining a guild is an absolute necessity, as while you can solo in the game, it is not an easy experience and you will die a lot. But if you do enjoy team based PVP games then Archeage does have a lot to offer in that regard.
You lose nothing by trying the game yourself to discover if its the game for you, so if your even mildly interested, then go ahead and try it