Originally posted by mgilbrtsn I'm sorry to hear that. Without a real challenge, it isn't that fun for me. I will continue to play however, because my friends are there. I got ESO and started playing, but then they all went WoW. Maybe I'll play ESO when they aren't on. I don't know how much of a challenge will be there, but keeping my fingers crossed.
I never bought into the WoW hype but thats pretty much what i do,when friends are on its fun when they are not i dont even wanna log in at all.which is fine.lucky for people like us tons of mmo's to choose from these days.
Originally posted by greatskys I brought the battlechest for my nephew this year (hes 9) hes already given it up because he finds it too easy and has gone back to Minecraft .
More like your nephew likes apples but not oranges, and you offered him oranges...
Jeez everywhere you go you make excuses for WoW and can't possibly have anything said against it. Someone doesn't like WoW and it must be their fault of course.
But in this case he has a good point. If you offer him pick up sticks to play and he loves tiddly winks better, then he will throw out the sticks. I think that is where Jean-Luc was going with the apples and oranges thing. It really had nothing to do with WoW, just a general thought on anything in life with a choice.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by Salute I don't know if it gets harder or not. I can only say it gets much more boring. 2nd month and i only log for garrison missions and daily crafting.
Yep:/ just check garrison follower missions every 1-2 hour and log off. cancelled my sub while ago. end game is just repeative.
Originally posted by Salute I don't know if it gets harder or not. I can only say it gets much more boring. 2nd month and i only log for garrison missions and daily crafting.
Yep:/ just check garrison follower missions every 1-2 hour and log off. cancelled my sub while ago. end game is just repeative.
The Garrison is just added free content and really has nothing to do with the topic. To me the Garrison is an option for those standing in front of the bank in Stormwind or Orgrimmar waiting for something to do. People keep making such a big deal out of it and it basically takes no more than 20 minutes a day to mine, herb, and/or do an invasion.
In general, if folks want to have a challenge they should do heroics or join a good PvP server with a guild that enjoys that kind of thing. Wild Star has proven that to much of a challenge can be a bad thing. WoW offers both and you can choose what you like. /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Originally posted by greatskys I brought the battlechest for my nephew this year (hes 9) hes already given it up because he finds it too easy and has gone back to Minecraft .
More like your nephew likes apples but not oranges, and you offered him oranges...
Jeez everywhere you go you make excuses for WoW and can't possibly have anything said against it. Someone doesn't like WoW and it must be their fault of course.
And every where you go, you have people like you posting on a VIDEO GAME they clearly dont play in a sad attempt to bash a VIDEO GAME they dont play.
Originally posted by Salute I don't know if it gets harder or not. I can only say it gets much more boring. 2nd month and i only log for garrison missions and daily crafting.
Yep:/ just check garrison follower missions every 1-2 hour and log off. cancelled my sub while ago. end game is just repeative.
Yep...Check another that never stepped foot into WoD and still feels the need to QQ about it.
Originally posted by greatskys I brought the battlechest for my nephew this year (hes 9) hes already given it up because he finds it too easy and has gone back to Minecraft .
More like your nephew likes apples but not oranges, and you offered him oranges...
Jeez everywhere you go you make excuses for WoW and can't possibly have anything said against it. Someone doesn't like WoW and it must be their fault of course.
And every where you go, you have people like you posting on a VIDEO GAME they clearly dont play in a sad attempt to bash a VIDEO GAME they dont play.
Played WoW on and off since launch, so I'm fit to comment. Quit for good a few days ago and have always enjoyed reading the forums of games I play or have played.
And in response to JLP, rather than 'bash' WoW, I've given my reasoned points why the game has gone in a direction I no longer enjoy. So why do I come on here and post about it? a) because it's a forum for mostly free speech and b) that I expect Blizzard staff to also read forums and just one day, they might listen.
Originally posted by greatskys I brought the battlechest for my nephew this year (hes 9) hes already given it up because he finds it too easy and has gone back to Minecraft .
More like your nephew likes apples but not oranges, and you offered him oranges...
Jeez everywhere you go you make excuses for WoW and can't possibly have anything said against it. Someone doesn't like WoW and it must be their fault of course.
And every where you go, you have people like you posting on a VIDEO GAME they clearly dont play in a sad attempt to bash a VIDEO GAME they dont play.
Played WoW on and off since launch, so I'm fit to comment. Quit for good a few days ago and have always enjoyed reading the forums of games I play or have played.
And in response to JLP, rather than 'bash' WoW, I've given my reasoned points why the game has gone in a direction I no longer enjoy. So why do I come on here and post about it? a) because it's a forum for mostly free speech and b) that I expect Blizzard staff to also read forums and just one day, they might listen.
Actually most normal, healthy, mature adults after they quit a VIDEO GAME "for good" find a new video game to enjoy their time on, not spam incoherent , inaccurate rants on every thread about a certain game.
Decided to give WoW a try. Seems OK. Kinda bland for me, but I'm playing with some friends, so it doesn't detract that much. I'm not meaning to make a thread a love v hate thread. I just wanted to know if the challenge level goes up. I've got a 32 priest, and have had no real challenge yet. So far, I've been able to defeat anything within my level range pretty easily. When I'm on with a friend, its more of a 'highway game'. Meaning of that I'm cruising through the game content without really having to stop. As opposed to a more 'city street game' Meaning there are obstacles periodically, which make you stop for a bit and face some challenges.
A game shouldn't be all one way or the other, but a mix. So far its all been one way. Does it have made x it up at any point in the future?
You will not find anything challanging in the game, some people will say you will, but you wont. The game is pretty much as you say, a highway, zipping to one place to another. The only things that I would personally call a challange, is the brawler clubs stuff, the rest of everything else is grindy, fun nonsense to fill your head.
The only MMO's I have played as of late that offer any kinda challange to some of its content are;
Final Fantasy 14
LOTRO
The Secret World
Although the games are not hard, they do actually have a few moments that make you pause and rethink.
Now don't get me wrong, I have a love/hate relationship with WoW, the game is fun and if you are playing with friends, talking on skype or what not its nice and mindless, but it wont keep you invested long-term. That's what I've always found for myself anyhow.
Decided to give WoW a try. Seems OK. Kinda bland for me, but I'm playing with some friends, so it doesn't detract that much. I'm not meaning to make a thread a love v hate thread. I just wanted to know if the challenge level goes up. I've got a 32 priest, and have had no real challenge yet. So far, I've been able to defeat anything within my level range pretty easily. When I'm on with a friend, its more of a 'highway game'. Meaning of that I'm cruising through the game content without really having to stop. As opposed to a more 'city street game' Meaning there are obstacles periodically, which make you stop for a bit and face some challenges.
A game shouldn't be all one way or the other, but a mix. So far its all been one way. Does it have made x it up at any point in the future?
You will not find anything challanging in the game, some people will say you will, but you wont. The game is pretty much as you say, a highway, zipping to one place to another. The only things that I would personally call a challange, is the brawler clubs stuff, the rest of everything else is grindy, fun nonsense to fill your head.
The only MMO's I have played as of late that offer any kinda challange to some of its content are;
Final Fantasy 14
LOTRO
The Secret World
Although the games are not hard, they do actually have a few moments that make you pause and rethink.
Now don't get me wrong, I have a love/hate relationship with WoW, the game is fun and if you are playing with friends, talking on skype or what not its nice and mindless, but it wont keep you invested long-term. That's what I've always found for myself anyhow.
No challenge? I'd love to see your achievment links...I'm guessing you have never got past lfr, I'm guessing you never got silver in the proving grounds and never got to experience heroic WoD dungeons.
WoW is an easy game with the option of difficulty. The problem is the difficulty feels like a gimmick because it's really just difficulty settings. Arena is difficult because it's against people that have been playing for 5+ years but that doesn't qualify WoW as difficult.
Originally posted by Thebeasttt WoW is an easy game with the option of difficulty. The problem is the difficulty feels like a gimmick because it's really just difficulty settings. Arena is difficult because it's against people that have been playing for 5+ years but that doesn't qualify WoW as difficult.
Boy you guys will spin stuff in the most amazing ways. If you put the energy you put on coming up with these crazy spins on something productive there is no telling what you guys could accomplish!
it's ok..nothing special..actually i have to say that i admire you for leveling because i am not able to level through old content and i h a t e mop. leveling in mop was something i...there isn't a word for that... i rather payed $60 so i could avoid mop..
btw if you are leveling priest and wanna heal in pvp (in case you are interested in pvp) ..stop leveling him (her) and switch toon to pala, druid, dk or warr.. blizz totally screwed up both healing specs of priest. healer priest in pvp is a big sad joke nowadays due to hard casts and crazy "cc". you will be chain stun locked for at least 12 sec all the time.. just frustrating
I'd love to know what you consider a "challenge" in LOTRO. Because I've played that game since its release (I'm a founder and lifetimer) and I never saw anything harder than WoW in it.
Originally posted by mark2123 And in response to JLP, rather than 'bash' WoW, I've given my reasoned points why the game has gone in a direction I no longer enjoy. So why do I come on here and post about it? a) because it's a forum for mostly free speech and b) that I expect Blizzard staff to also read forums and just one day, they might listen.
If your intent was to deliver your message to Blizzard, you would be posting on the official forums. Come on, free speech is not an excuse for everything. Do you really think we don't know why you do it here instead of the official forums?
Absolute rubbish . I'm playing WoW and lotro side by side at the moment both my characters are in their 70s . I'm still two shotting most mobs in WoW with my Death Knight where as the average mob with my burglar in Lotro takes at least 10 shots to take down at a similar level . You have obviously no idea what you are talking about .
I am also a founder and lifer . My guess is you havn't played WoW in about half a decade back when lotro and WoW were on a more even footing in terms of difficulty .
I'd love to know what you consider a "challenge" in LOTRO. Because I've played that game since its release (I'm a founder and lifetimer) and I never saw anything harder than WoW in it.
Originally posted by mark2123 And in response to JLP, rather than 'bash' WoW, I've given my reasoned points why the game has gone in a direction I no longer enjoy. So why do I come on here and post about it? a) because it's a forum for mostly free speech and b) that I expect Blizzard staff to also read forums and just one day, they might listen.
If your intent was to deliver your message to Blizzard, you would be posting on the official forums. Come on, free speech is not an excuse for everything. Do you really think we don't know why you do it here instead of the official forums?
Absolute rubbish . I'm playing WoW and lotro side by side at the moment both my characters are in their 70s . I'm still two shotting most mobs in WoW with my Death Knight where as the average mob with my burglar in Lotro takes at least 10 shots to take down at a similar level . You have obviously no idea what you are talking about .
And you obviously have no clue what you are talking about...
WoW-Death Knight one of the TOP DPS CLASSES
LOTRO-Burglar low dps specialty class
Now if you had a clue what you were talking about you wouldnt be comparing these two classes.
And for fun here is a youtube vid of a Burglar SOLOING A DUNGEON.
Difficult you say lol
How about a link showing all the Rares, elites and Arch-nemesis you can solo in LOTRO? Ok here you go
Originally posted by Thebeasttt WoW is an easy game with the option of difficulty. The problem is the difficulty feels like a gimmick because it's really just difficulty settings. Arena is difficult because it's against people that have been playing for 5+ years but that doesn't qualify WoW as difficult.
Boy you guys will spin stuff in the most amazing ways. If you put the energy you put on coming up with these crazy spins on something productive there is no telling what you guys could accomplish!
How is that spin? Almost all themeparks are designed in that way. Almost all of the "hard" content is locked away from the world. Again that's how themeparks are designed.
The best reply to the OP would be, get to a point where you're doing hard dungeons, or play Dark Souls... That would apply to anything from WOW to ESO and most in between. Anything else would go against the idea of serving up something with mass appeal.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Thebeasttt WoW is an easy game with the option of difficulty. The problem is the difficulty feels like a gimmick because it's really just difficulty settings. Arena is difficult because it's against people that have been playing for 5+ years but that doesn't qualify WoW as difficult.
Boy you guys will spin stuff in the most amazing ways. If you put the energy you put on coming up with these crazy spins on something productive there is no telling what you guys could accomplish!
How is that spin? Almost all themeparks are designed in that way. Almost all of the "hard" content is locked away from the world. Again that's how themeparks are designed.
The best reply to the OP would be, get to a point where you're doing hard dungeons, or play Dark Souls... That would apply to anything from WOW to ESO and most in between. Anything else would go against the idea of serving up something with mass appeal.
Originally posted by Thebeasttt WoW is an easy game with the option of difficulty. The problem is the difficulty feels like a gimmick because it's really just difficulty settings. Arena is difficult because it's against people that have been playing for 5+ years but that doesn't qualify WoW as difficult.
Boy you guys will spin stuff in the most amazing ways. If you put the energy you put on coming up with these crazy spins on something productive there is no telling what you guys could accomplish!
How is that spin? Almost all themeparks are designed in that way. Almost all of the "hard" content is locked away from the world. Again that's how themeparks are designed.
The best reply to the OP would be, get to a point where you're doing hard dungeons, or play Dark Souls... That would apply to anything from WOW to ESO and most in between. Anything else would go against the idea of serving up something with mass appeal.
"the trivia contest was a gimmick to sell more newspapers"
hard content in WoW or another Mmo is not a "gimmick " that was the spin I was referring too.
Legendary items (or top tier in game items) are a good indicator of difficulty. In GW2 it probably takes 2 years to get a legendary, i'm still working on mine casually, it will probably take me 3. I Joined MOP for a couple months to try it out - I had a legendary in a month lol - and thats before they 'NERFED' it near then end of the game so everyone could get the legendary.
Why exactly did Blizzard nerf the effort needed to get a legendary? Blizzards well known strategy is tiered nerfing - everyone 'deserves' top gear.
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Originally posted by Thebeasttt WoW is an easy game with the option of difficulty. The problem is the difficulty feels like a gimmick because it's really just difficulty settings. Arena is difficult because it's against people that have been playing for 5+ years but that doesn't qualify WoW as difficult.
Boy you guys will spin stuff in the most amazing ways. If you put the energy you put on coming up with these crazy spins on something productive there is no telling what you guys could accomplish!
How is that spin? Almost all themeparks are designed in that way. Almost all of the "hard" content is locked away from the world. Again that's how themeparks are designed.
The best reply to the OP would be, get to a point where you're doing hard dungeons, or play Dark Souls... That would apply to anything from WOW to ESO and most in between. Anything else would go against the idea of serving up something with mass appeal.
"the trivia contest was a gimmick to sell more newspapers"
hard content in WoW or another Mmo is not a "gimmick " that was the spin I was referring too.
Legendary items (or top tier in game items) are a good indicator of difficulty. In GW2 it probably takes 2 years to get a legendary, i'm still working on mine casually, it will probably take me 3. I Joined MOP for a couple months to try it out - I had a legendary in a month lol - and thats before they 'NERFED' it near then end of the game so everyone could get the legendary.
Why exactly did Blizzard nerf the effort needed to get a legendary? Blizzards well known strategy is tiered nerfing - everyone 'deserves' top gear.
And nobody has the legendary ring now...almost three months in...what's your point again?
so you have QQ about grinding in wow and how that is easy mode. But grinding in gw2 for a lengendary is difficult lol you are priceless buddy.
I'd love to know what you consider a "challenge" in LOTRO. Because I've played that game since its release (I'm a founder and lifetimer) and I never saw anything harder than WoW in it.
Originally posted by mark2123 And in response to JLP, rather than 'bash' WoW, I've given my reasoned points why the game has gone in a direction I no longer enjoy. So why do I come on here and post about it? a) because it's a forum for mostly free speech and b) that I expect Blizzard staff to also read forums and just one day, they might listen.
If your intent was to deliver your message to Blizzard, you would be posting on the official forums. Come on, free speech is not an excuse for everything. Do you really think we don't know why you do it here instead of the official forums?
Absolute rubbish . I'm playing WoW and lotro side by side at the moment both my characters are in their 70s . I'm still two shotting most mobs in WoW with my Death Knight where as the average mob with my burglar in Lotro takes at least 10 shots to take down at a similar level . You have obviously no idea what you are talking about .
And you obviously have no clue what you are talking about...
WoW-Death Knight one of the TOP DPS CLASSES
LOTRO-Burglar low dps specialty class
Now if you had a clue what you were talking about you wouldnt be comparing these two classes.
And for fun here is a youtube vid of a Burglar SOLOING A DUNGEON.
Difficult you say lol
How about a link showing all the Rares, elites and Arch-nemesis you can solo in LOTRO? Ok here you go
I have various classes in both WoW and lotro . Personally I think you are a bit of a joke if you think WoW and lotro are in anyway similar in terms of difficulty while leveling . I imagine most people who have read your posts that have experience in both games will also see how ridiculous they are .
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LOL at does wow get harder btw.
The whole reason that people have a problem with wow is because there is no difficulty, no difficulty in playing, character building or any aspect.
It is made to appeal to the super casual gamer. The type that wants to click buttons while concentrating on tv in my opinion.
If you don't believe me, make up your own mind.
The challenge comes at end game, Levelling is just so easy (and yes boring). You can steamroll dungeons without a healer or tank sometimes.
But getting into a raiding guild and raiding once or twice a week is where the real challenge is for me.
Having said that, I played the latest expansion 2 levels and was bored shitless. My WoW days are over.
I never bought into the WoW hype but thats pretty much what i do,when friends are on its fun when they are not i dont even wanna log in at all.which is fine.lucky for people like us tons of mmo's to choose from these days.
But in this case he has a good point. If you offer him pick up sticks to play and he loves tiddly winks better, then he will throw out the sticks. I think that is where Jean-Luc was going with the apples and oranges thing. It really had nothing to do with WoW, just a general thought on anything in life with a choice.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
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Tis expasion pack is joke, its all too easy.
Casual players can do LFR,normal and HC Highmaul with random partys.
Yep:/ just check garrison follower missions every 1-2 hour and log off. cancelled my sub while ago. end game is just repeative.
The Garrison is just added free content and really has nothing to do with the topic. To me the Garrison is an option for those standing in front of the bank in Stormwind or Orgrimmar waiting for something to do. People keep making such a big deal out of it and it basically takes no more than 20 minutes a day to mine, herb, and/or do an invasion.
In general, if folks want to have a challenge they should do heroics or join a good PvP server with a guild that enjoys that kind of thing. Wild Star has proven that to much of a challenge can be a bad thing. WoW offers both and you can choose what you like. /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
And every where you go, you have people like you posting on a VIDEO GAME they clearly dont play in a sad attempt to bash a VIDEO GAME they dont play.
Yep...Check another that never stepped foot into WoD and still feels the need to QQ about it.
Played WoW on and off since launch, so I'm fit to comment. Quit for good a few days ago and have always enjoyed reading the forums of games I play or have played.
And in response to JLP, rather than 'bash' WoW, I've given my reasoned points why the game has gone in a direction I no longer enjoy. So why do I come on here and post about it? a) because it's a forum for mostly free speech and b) that I expect Blizzard staff to also read forums and just one day, they might listen.
Actually most normal, healthy, mature adults after they quit a VIDEO GAME "for good" find a new video game to enjoy their time on, not spam incoherent , inaccurate rants on every thread about a certain game.
You will not find anything challanging in the game, some people will say you will, but you wont. The game is pretty much as you say, a highway, zipping to one place to another. The only things that I would personally call a challange, is the brawler clubs stuff, the rest of everything else is grindy, fun nonsense to fill your head.
The only MMO's I have played as of late that offer any kinda challange to some of its content are;
Final Fantasy 14
LOTRO
The Secret World
Although the games are not hard, they do actually have a few moments that make you pause and rethink.
Now don't get me wrong, I have a love/hate relationship with WoW, the game is fun and if you are playing with friends, talking on skype or what not its nice and mindless, but it wont keep you invested long-term. That's what I've always found for myself anyhow.
No challenge? I'd love to see your achievment links...I'm guessing you have never got past lfr, I'm guessing you never got silver in the proving grounds and never got to experience heroic WoD dungeons.
Lotro is a challenge? Now that made me laugh!
Boy you guys will spin stuff in the most amazing ways. If you put the energy you put on coming up with these crazy spins on something productive there is no telling what you guys could accomplish!
it's ok..nothing special..actually i have to say that i admire you for leveling because i am not able to level through old content and i h a t e mop. leveling in mop was something i...there isn't a word for that... i rather payed $60 so i could avoid mop..
btw if you are leveling priest and wanna heal in pvp (in case you are interested in pvp) ..stop leveling him (her) and switch toon to pala, druid, dk or warr.. blizz totally screwed up both healing specs of priest. healer priest in pvp is a big sad joke nowadays due to hard casts and crazy "cc". you will be chain stun locked for at least 12 sec all the time.. just frustrating
Absolute rubbish . I'm playing WoW and lotro side by side at the moment both my characters are in their 70s . I'm still two shotting most mobs in WoW with my Death Knight where as the average mob with my burglar in Lotro takes at least 10 shots to take down at a similar level . You have obviously no idea what you are talking about .
I am also a founder and lifer . My guess is you havn't played WoW in about half a decade back when lotro and WoW were on a more even footing in terms of difficulty .
And you obviously have no clue what you are talking about...
WoW-Death Knight one of the TOP DPS CLASSES
LOTRO-Burglar low dps specialty class
Now if you had a clue what you were talking about you wouldnt be comparing these two classes.
And for fun here is a youtube vid of a Burglar SOLOING A DUNGEON.
Difficult you say lol
How about a link showing all the Rares, elites and Arch-nemesis you can solo in LOTRO? Ok here you go
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?532627-HD-Burglar-solo-thread
How is that spin? Almost all themeparks are designed in that way. Almost all of the "hard" content is locked away from the world. Again that's how themeparks are designed.
The best reply to the OP would be, get to a point where you're doing hard dungeons, or play Dark Souls... That would apply to anything from WOW to ESO and most in between. Anything else would go against the idea of serving up something with mass appeal.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
gim·mick
synonyms:publicity stunt, contrivance, scheme, stratagem, ploy;
"the trivia contest was a gimmick to sell more newspapers"
hard content in WoW or another Mmo is not a "gimmick " that was the spin I was referring too.
Legendary items (or top tier in game items) are a good indicator of difficulty. In GW2 it probably takes 2 years to get a legendary, i'm still working on mine casually, it will probably take me 3. I Joined MOP for a couple months to try it out - I had a legendary in a month lol - and thats before they 'NERFED' it near then end of the game so everyone could get the legendary.
Why exactly did Blizzard nerf the effort needed to get a legendary? Blizzards well known strategy is tiered nerfing - everyone 'deserves' top gear.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
And nobody has the legendary ring now...almost three months in...what's your point again?
so you have QQ about grinding in wow and how that is easy mode. But grinding in gw2 for a lengendary is difficult lol you are priceless buddy.
I have various classes in both WoW and lotro . Personally I think you are a bit of a joke if you think WoW and lotro are in anyway similar in terms of difficulty while leveling . I imagine most people who have read your posts that have experience in both games will also see how ridiculous they are .