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Worth trying?
Vladric_Hellsinger
Member Posts: 27
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Is this game a fun pvp sanbox mmo?
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If you have to ask, you probably should skip this game, it's not really for you.
Better yet, give it a try, I'm told it's free to play.
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Oh so it's P2W?
Kinda...
It can be very fun until you hit max level. At max level (50) you are nickled and dimed if you want to keep up with the other PVPers and you also have to grind like a korean (hasla and GHA). You should try the F2P option but dont fall in love right away. Keep your wallet closed until you hit 50 and then decide if paying a monthly fee plus cash shop for labor pots plus cash shop lockboxes for TS trees is something you still want to do.
I tried the game and it was just very bland and basic to me.
Yes, it is very p2w at this point it is not worth trying if you want to be "endgame" competitive without maxing out your credit card. The biggest reason is that there is no way around the labor system without using cash. The labor system is cleverly disguised to limit the amount of gold generated by each user each day. The only way to gain more gold is to use a credit card to either obtain more labor or sell cash shop items on the auction and generate gold.
Try another fun sandbox game with pvp.
This is worth trying but stay away from it, it eventualy become too much fun for you.
The free download and free game access is also a big and almost impossible hurdle to take, put in from Trion.
It's free so why not?
I'd say if you are a new player. Focus on 2 professions MAX. You will become much more competitive and faster.
Also you can trade run early on, but don't get anything more than a farm cart at this point, trade runs are less profitable as time goes on.
I would subscribe if you like the game and own at least two 16x16 lands or one 16x16 and an aquafarm and sell raw materials.
If you want to catch up really fast you can do HASLA or GHA (dungeon), but they are optional. You should probably plan on spending $15-25 a month to enjoy the game. Less if you have a lot of free time.
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
If you wish to be competitive in PvP or PvE I hope you were lucky last Christmas and get a couple of thousand dollard to spend.
This is a big P2W game.
You will see some folks around with 30-40 gold consumable on them for 30 minute buff. Those consumable will give more stats then your shitty gear.
This is a great game, but the P2W aspect of it spoiled everything in my case.
Yeah pretty much. Anybody who can't see this is blind. Any person who tries to retort with the "you can get it in game without paying" argument is being dense and subjectively ignorant.
Archeage rewards those who have spend the most, have the most time, and exploit.
The most beautiful time during Archeages existence on the west was during Alpha. Hands down, no debate. It's a completely different game now.
It's free go see for yourself.
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Why not try it, it's free. You'll likely be as disappointed as the rest of us though, especially if you're looking for a sandbox.
I rather play Prison Architect rather than play ArcheAge, even tho i backed this piece of ^ for 150 in alpha. That should tell you something, Prison looks and plays like a 15 years old game, good but still.
Trion is on my list to never touch anything they make again, even if they were to pay me for it. Clueless devs, terrible company.
totally worth a try!
I think this is one of the titles out there that you just have to judge for yourself! Many people claim P2W, but it really is more pay to get it done faster. If you have the time, patience and commitment you can very easily get the best equipment, even make it yourself. There is nothing in the cash shop that you can buy that will immediatly allow you to be more powerful than someone else.
I do not have the patience or time to get it done, especially when it comes to labor points, but if you do have that, i think Archeage would be very enjoyable
Yes yes try it it's free and for the first month you will love it like the rest of us did. Then you will hit max level and start dabbling with crafting and experience the labor system. I promise you will become as bitter and resentful about this game as the rest of the ex-players have become.
Choose your server carefully as most the newer ones are now quite dead. As a new player you will struggle as most the playing population that's left are whales who own all the land and control the market. Oh, and you will need to join a large established guild to get the most out of it but they are not casual friendly. This game is a career - not a hobby for casuals.
To be honest you really have missed the boat on this one, it's not new player friendly unless your arm yourself with a credit card.
If it's of interest to you, it's worth trying.
The worst thing that can happen is that you don't like it. Seeing how it's F2P and all. Always form your own opinions, OP.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
I played it for 3 months. I had fun, then I realized the hollow shell it is.
If you enjoy trade runs (Basically spending 10-15 minutes riding/boating across the map) to earn enough money to pay for 1/5th a labor pot (the game is basically ran on Labor, you need Labor to do anything but kill mobs/quest. IE..>Crafting..Trade runs..Harvesting) then you might enjoy the game.
If you like barely any dungeons, and even the ones they have are very lackluster, then you might like the game.
If you like Zerg PvP, in which most of the Zerg doesn't even fight, just is there to talk tot he NPC and get their medals and leave, then you might like the game.
If you like a game with tons of boats for possible naval warfare, but yet people are generally too scared to all go out and have a big battle, then yo might like the game.
If you enjoy impossible castle sieges in which maybe 5% of all castle sieges actually are successful, AFTER purchasing the rite to actually seige a castle (every 2 weeks? And you spend a shit ton of gold to "Bid" on the right to siege..which only 1 clan can do per 1 of the 4 castles) you might like the game.
If you enjoy paying to be a subscriber in order to own land/farm/house, then you might like the game.
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I enjoyed it for a while, but due to major acts by the company (terrible terrible terrible content release in which the servers crash...many people couldn't fight for a castle..my guild didn't get one ONLY because the server instbaility caused many of our members to DC..dropping the thousands of gold items we needed to claim a castle...and many other constant issues with cash shop...botters..gold sellers..it can get really bad...)
So you might enjoy it. As a free2play it will be hard. You don't generate labor offline (if you subscribe you get like 5 labor every 10 minutes?)...and last I checked Labor Pots(you can use 1 to get 1000 labor, every 24 hours) were expensive.
But to each their own. The class system is KINDA cool, if the skills were more cleaned up/polished. Combat just feels odd and jerky to me. Been playing MMOs since 1999 and that is how I feel.
But as I said, to each their own.
Edit: The Grind. I forgot about that. Leveling up is easy and quick. You level up each "skill set" individually and combined 3 skill sets to make a class... So you could be a bard who has a 1 hand sword and shield and heals. (But you will be shunned from nearly every group)...very much a flavor of the month class based game.
But the grind...once you hit 50...you HAVE to get Hasla weapons to do any higher end game content. It is PATHETIC.
Basically...you go to this "zone" Hasla. It has like maybe..10 different spots (these 10 spots are split between both "sides")...and these boring mobs spawn. You group up with like 5-30 people and say "I am rolling HOnor." (Honor tokens, once you get like 150 or 250...will allow you to make the most "basic" Hasla sword...there are 3 tiers?"...
So you sit and kill mobs. There are maybe like 5 mobs total, and if you are lucky, your group will get to kill all 5 in each spot twhen they spawn. If you are even luckier still, they will drop an HONOR token. If they don't drop an Honor token and drop a different one...well...you are SoL and can't roll on it until an Honor token drops. (There are compassion tokens, fortitude tokens..maybe like 6-8 different token types and(each token type gives you various weapons..whether bow..or 2h sword..ect..ect...)
So you sit...in this boring area with like 20-100 other people in the area...all fighting over these same boring looking easy to kill mobs...HOPING that the exact token you need for the exact weapon you will need will drop. And you need 150 i think for the first tier...maybe 250 for 2nd? and 400 for the 3rd?
Crafting is RNG...Literally I spent all my money crafting up a sword and upgrading it to "50"...well...when you make a lvl 42ish sword..if it RNGs into any sword but a "SUmmer Sword"...then you can no longer upgrade it and it will forever be a lvl 42 sword.
However if you get lucky and it RNGs into a "Summer Sword" (versus a Meteor Sword, Lava sword) then you can upgrade it again. BUT when you upgrade your "Summer Sword"...you need to RNG the next specific named sword in order to upgrade it again...if you RNG your Summer sword into a lvl 50 "Meteor Sword"..well, sorry bud your sword now can never be upgraded again...have fun starting over and hoping next time your RNG will give you the right named sword.
I had fun when the game released. It was new and exciting. I enjoyed specific things, I enjoyed trade runs and such. I mean there WAS some enjoyment there. But as the game went on, and it changed and stuff was released terribly..and I found out about the RNG crafting...the sieging rules..people quitting left and right...I even had a large plot of land with a house and a plot for a small 8x8 farm...I just couldn't do it anymore.
The game is very greedy, very RNG (RNG is random number generated) and I don't know...the community is one of the worst I have encountered. I would put the community in ArcheAge on par with the LoL (League of Legends) community, which is notoriously terrible.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
Not fun. Walk away now. It's a sandbox for jerks to practice and build their skills in botting, cheating, hacking, spamming, etc. For Trion, it's a sandbox to see how much money they can pull from your wallet.
Walk away. Don't look back.
"worth trying?"
I cringe everytime
videogames and mmorpgs are entertainment mediums
they are litterally tools for your free time
what value you can assign to the time you supposely should wasting?
worthness require a set standard and a goal, which mean you are not longer entertaining yourself
you are actively working to achieve a desired result
fun? satisfation? prove something to yourself? fame? coins?
whatever is it, shrink away. among all the entertainment mediums, video games: mmorpgs are those that require the greater investment of time and energy before reaching most of the desired results and the fact that you went on a forum asking people to decide what is good for you suggest me that you lack the qualities to achieve what you are looking for.
you will end up throwing excuses pretty soon like most of your colleagues do.
I doubt, but in case I'm wrong, is even better
is always nice to meet people that are not crushed under the heel of the pLay to win
mentality
may the game be a nice experience for you then o/
Because this same question keeps getting asked, here is my cut + paste response from another thread.
If you are looking for a truly "different" experience than what 10 years of Wow clones have given us, AA is a good choice.
If you love crafting and enjoy many non-combat related goals and are ok spending a significant amount of time progressing through non-combat, AA is a good choice.
If you are open to finding your own end game goals without being told "here is where to go next", AA is a good choice.
If you are looking for a game with more depth than the standard fare, AA is a good choice.
If you can accept playing AA and base your judgement on your own experiences instead of the vocal majority, AA is a good choice.
BUT!!!!
If you only find satisfaction and enjoyment through combat and only combat, DO NOT PLAY ARCHEAGE!
If you are a grass is greener kind of player and cannot get past what other players have and how they got it, DO NOT PLAY ARCHEAGE!
If your primary focus is a F2P game and have no plans to sub (patron is a must) or just want a "free" game, DO NOT PLAY ARCHEAGE!
If you have spending issues and cannot control your impulses then the cash shop will ruin you, DO NOT PLAY ARCHEAGE!
If you cannot stand the thought that there are exploits and cheaters in the game that while are a small percentage of the playerbase, will be ahead of you and in some cases take advantage of you. DO NOT PLAY ARCHEAGE!
My personal opinion is simply that even with the Trion failings, hacks, exploits, bad decisions and more, Archeage is still the most feature packed and innovative MMO on the market. AA has the most ambitious feature set of any MMO for nearly a decade and there simply is no other MMO release atm that compares. So while many will condemn it (or Trion) for it's continued launch failings, there still is no alternative on the market and if you approach the game with the right understanding and expectations, AA can deliver a truly unique experience.
I agree with this reply, however would add that while there are all these features, and the hacks, cheats and exploits are deal breaking for many people (they are not tiny little exploits BTW) what killed it for me is TRION's continued gross negligence to it's paying Customers. Trion has gone from a great company to a greedy, screw our customers company. If you get screwed over (or when you do), know that you were warned of that possibility. The game is fun, but I am willing to bet that the game will be dead as soon as it's prettier sister launches..