I don't think 4K is as far away as people think / want it to be. PC gaming certainly seems to be what's pushing it forward currently, and G-sync is going to make FPS much, much more bearable when playing with it. As soon as the elder generations have passed away, expect to see a more general push as far as technology goes.
And Sony? Experts? They should've dropped their TV business a long time ago.
I don't think 4K is as far away as people think / want it to be. PC gaming certainly seems to be what's pushing it forward currently, and G-sync is going to make FPS much, much more bearable when playing with it. As soon as the elder generations have passed away, expect to see a more general push as far as technology goes.
And Sony? Experts? They should've dropped their TV business a long time ago.
The elder generations? LOL
I agree that in a gaming situation is where you will see the most difference, assuming your monitor is quite large, ( I would think at least 32 inch and up) and you are sitting the usual < 5 feet distance from the screen. Also most likely to see the most 4 K content, with games.
Large screen projection will also benefit. It is the average Joe with the 60 inch screen sitting at the usual 8 to 10 foot distance that probably won't notice anything dramatic.
Also the amount of improvement is subjective and different for everyone. Your experience may vary, should be the disclaimer.
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Originally posted by Flyte27 To me 4K is not worth it at the moment. If the prices come down and they are able to improve video card performance while reducing power consumption maybe one day it will be worth it. I'd imagine you need to have one super video card that costs about 1000 or more dollars or a SLI/Crossfire that produces the same. 1080p still looks pretty darn good. It's a far cry from the days of monochrome and super low resolutions. Sometimes having better graphics actually limits and MMO. For instance Everquuest still has more complex dungeons, zones, and buildings than most modern day MMOs and much of that is it's low quality/blocky objects. The textures are still quite nice though. They give the game a real Forgotten Realms type of feeling.
The way things are going you will just need a TV - forget the computer - if you look at the way TVs are going they are becoming very powerful. And mass production will take care of the cost. As you say though this type of discussion has come up many times. Just a question of time.
Rasberry Pie 2 was announced today as well: same size; quad core processor; 1GB memory; c. 6 times more powerful; able to run Windows 10 in the future announced; $35 price tag ex. tax. Enough said.
Experts with measuring equipment who have studied this, are saying there's no way that a human can see the difference at a normal distance
Some anecdotal people who bought 4k, are saying you can.
I'll go with the experts lol.
I am pretty sure if you give me a 4k screen and a 1k screen, I will be able to spot the difference without even getting close to the screen.
I am not sure why you are trying so hard to prove that 4k makes no difference when it clearly does.It is the future and in a few years we will all be seeing 2k or 4k as the new mainstream resolution, the way 1080p is now. People claim that they see a difference between 1080p and 2k on a phone! On a phone that is 5 inch big. And you are talking about 84 inches. If you think about the PPI you get on a PC, it's just pathetic. What is your PPI on your 25 inch screen at 1080p? My laptop which is 15 inches is running the same resolution and I would say that 720p looks disgusting on a laptop. And we are talking about very small devices here - 15 inch laptops and 5 inch phones.
4k is clearer and sharper. However, I think at the moment running games at 4k is ridiculously expensive. SO while it provies a better quality picture, it is questionable if it is worth all the money you would be throwing at 4k peripherals. AFter a few years when it becomes cheap, sure but at the moment it's quite expensive.
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Originally posted by Flyte27 To me 4K is not worth it at the moment. If the prices come down and they are able to improve video card performance while reducing power consumption maybe one day it will be worth it. I'd imagine you need to have one super video card that costs about 1000 or more dollars or a SLI/Crossfire that produces the same. 1080p still looks pretty darn good. It's a far cry from the days of monochrome and super low resolutions. Sometimes having better graphics actually limits and MMO. For instance Everquuest still has more complex dungeons, zones, and buildings than most modern day MMOs and much of that is it's low quality/blocky objects. The textures are still quite nice though. They give the game a real Forgotten Realms type of feeling.
The prices are down already. I have a EVGA GTX 970 ($350) and a Asus 4K monitor ($500) and i run all new games in 4K with solid minimum of 40+ FPS. It's worth every penny, not only for games but also for working with multiple windows or in Adobe Premiere where you have a full resolution 1080p preview taking up just 1/4th of the screen. Productivity is a big thing for me as Designer and Programmer. 4K just gives me the ability to be more productive with the same size screen as before.
Give it about 5 years and 4k will just be standard fare.
With your average size monitor, I don't see a lot of benefit. But when were talking multi-monitor, Occulus and big screen I'm singing a different tune.
4k is a gimmack.. like gaming in 3d. I will eventually become the norm, but as it stands now, you need way to much power to make it worth while, and even those who use it, wont notice it.
Gaming in 4k right now, is basically the same as those ps2 hd remakes, youre doing a simple magic trick and expecting the audience to be impressed with it. If the game wasnt designed in 4k, simply upping the resolution doesnt suddenly make it 4k.
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I don't get the point of 4k, 90% or more of the US can't get TV service that supports it, most are just now catching up to true HD 1080p lol. It may be different in countries with better infrastructure, but in the US our infrastructure is very outdated and expensive.
I spent some time in South Korea and I got internet at 100 up and 100 down for about $13 a month, in the US that costs like $50-60 a month, and then the speeds you actually get are lower.
The point is we do zoom and this is the point where 4k TVs will matter. Larger screens. Thats it. If you have an average size TV, 1080p will be all you need till 4k is the standard. If you have a 60+ inch TV, I could see going 4k would be nice but again, till 4k video and games are the norm, it still does not matter.
4k is a gimmack.. like gaming in 3d. I will eventually become the norm, but as it stands now, you need way to much power to make it worth while, and even those who use it, wont notice it.
Gaming in 4k right now, is basically the same as those ps2 hd remakes, youre doing a simple magic trick and expecting the audience to be impressed with it. If the game wasnt designed in 4k, simply upping the resolution doesnt suddenly make it 4k.
Look here children, this is a troll. See "upping the resolution" to 4k, does make it 4k. If you are playing with a resolution resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels with 16:9 aspect ratio or 4096 x 2160 with 19:10 aspect ratio, you have 4k. Doesn't matter if you have low res textures and all graphics settings set to low. It is still 4k.
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I don't think 4K TV's are terribly useful at the moment, since most sources will be 1080P or smaller for the foreseeable future.
4K gaming though? Count me in. That would make a 27"+ monitor alot more appealing, IMO. It'll probably still be awhile for me, though. The core of my machine is Phenom II era stuff. 2008-ish. Methinx I'm gonna have to replace the mobo/cpu/memory before I could do it(for gaming), but I know it definitely wouldn't be pointless.
So a Samsung Note 4 can shoot videos in 4k, but a computer with far more horsepower cannot play it back? You Tube is awful at times. Really bad streaming.
4k is a gimmack.. like gaming in 3d. I will eventually become the norm, but as it stands now, you need way to much power to make it worth while, and even those who use it, wont notice it.
Gaming in 4k right now, is basically the same as those ps2 hd remakes, youre doing a simple magic trick and expecting the audience to be impressed with it. If the game wasnt designed in 4k, simply upping the resolution doesnt suddenly make it 4k.
Look here children, this is a troll. See "upping the resolution" to 4k, does make it 4k. If you are playing with a resolution resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels with 16:9 aspect ratio or 4096 x 2160 with 19:10 aspect ratio, you have 4k. Doesn't matter if you have low res textures and all graphics settings set to low. It is still 4k.
Most things in a game engine neither know nor care what the monitor resolution is, so those trivially carry over to a higher resolution. Unless the game was stupid about hard-coding in some resolution-related things, increasing the resolution is mostly just a matter of making sure that various 2D things look about the right size rather than being tiny.
Higher texture resolutions put an increased load on video memory capacity requirements, and also increase PCI Express bus bandwidth needs, though the latter is likely to be inconsequential. Higher texture resolutions can require slightly more video memory bandwidth because you'll get fewer cache hits on close-up textures, but that's going to be a pretty minor effect. But other than that, texture resolution is basically irrelevant to monitor resolution.
Originally posted by avalon1000 So a Samsung Note 4 can shoot videos in 4k, but a computer with far more horsepower cannot play it back? You Tube is awful at times. Really bad streaming.
Sufficiently slow software can make any hardware run poorly. That's what web browsers are for, isn't it?
I am pretty sure if you give me a 4k screen and a 1k screen, I will be able to spot the difference without even getting close to the screen.
I am not sure why you are trying so hard to prove that 4k makes no difference when it clearly does.
How does that statement add up to the studies and real life tests that say otherwise.
Is there anything but anecdotal evidence that you can distinguish 4k from 1080p, other than "I'm pretty sure".
While some people claim they can see the difference from a normal distance, the data isn't backing them up.
yeh .. anecdotal example is just that. People can say anything on the internet.
In fact, last time i was at a best buy look at TVs, i canNOT tell the difference between 4K and 1080P and I certainly am not going to pay good money for benefits that I cannot see.
yeh .. anecdotal example is just that. People can say anything on the internet.
In fact, last time i was at a best buy look at TVs, i canNOT tell the difference between 4K and 1080P and I certainly am not going to pay good money for benefits that I cannot see.
If you can not see the difference between 1080p and 4K then you need to see a doctor and get your eyes checked out. Seriously, there is something wrong with your eyes.
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4k is a gimmack.. like gaming in 3d. I will eventually become the norm, but as it stands now, you need way to much power to make it worth while, and even those who use it, wont notice it.
4K and 3d gaming is a "gimmack" [sic]? You need a GTX 970 for 4K if that is way too much power then you need to upgrade your wooden PC from 1980.
Gaming in 4k right now, is basically the same as those ps2 hd remakes, youre doing a simple magic trick and expecting the audience to be impressed with it. If the game wasnt designed in 4k, simply upping the resolution doesnt suddenly make it 4k.
Yes "upping" [sic] the resolution does make it 4K. Same as increasing 720p to 1080p makes it 1K. You are either intentionally trolling or not able to grasp the concepts of a modern game engine.
Originally posted by avalon1000 So a Samsung Note 4 can shoot videos in 4k, but a computer with far more horsepower cannot play it back? You Tube is awful at times. Really bad streaming.
Any decent modern PC can play back 4K without any problem. People just have slow internet, crappy PC's and/or are loaded with bloatware/addware and viruses. It runs fine on my PC with a GTX 970 and a 100mbit connection.
yeh .. anecdotal example is just that. People can say anything on the internet.
In fact, last time i was at a best buy look at TVs, i canNOT tell the difference between 4K and 1080P and I certainly am not going to pay good money for benefits that I cannot see.
If you can not see the difference between 1080p and 4K then you need to see a doctor and get your eyes checked out. Seriously, there is something wrong with your eyes.
and i have my vision check every year, so i doubt it is me.
We are talking about looking at a TV screen at a normal distance right? I am not talking about going up close to 5 inches from the screen and try to find the pixels.
In fact, at a normal distance to a tv .. i cannot see single pixels on my 1080p .. can you? If not, upping the resolution does nothing.
Originally posted by Flyte27 To me 4K is not worth it at the moment. If the prices come down and they are able to improve video card performance while reducing power consumption maybe one day it will be worth it. I'd imagine you need to have one super video card that costs about 1000 or more dollars or a SLI/Crossfire that produces the same. 1080p still looks pretty darn good. It's a far cry from the days of monochrome and super low resolutions. Sometimes having better graphics actually limits and MMO. For instance Everquuest still has more complex dungeons, zones, and buildings than most modern day MMOs and much of that is it's low quality/blocky objects. The textures are still quite nice though. They give the game a real Forgotten Realms type of feeling.
The prices are down already. I have a EVGA GTX 970 ($350) and a Asus 4K monitor ($500) and i run all new games in 4K with solid minimum of 40+ FPS. It's worth every penny, not only for games but also for working with multiple windows or in Adobe Premiere where you have a full resolution 1080p preview taking up just 1/4th of the screen. Productivity is a big thing for me as Designer and Programmer. 4K just gives me the ability to be more productive with the same size screen as before.
To get the FPS I'm used to on my monitor I would need something like a Titan. The GTX 680 I have can run any any game at 1200p to this point at my monitors current refresh rate 60. I'd rather stick with 1080p as it doesn't really bother me at all. Having the frame rate drop below 60 FPS does at times though. Games actually look pretty amazing as they are. If I make an upgrade any time soon it will likely be for a g-sync mointor. I just brought a TV that is 48 inches 1080P. It was around 500 dollars. To me that is a lot of money for a TV. I have both a PC and a PS4 hooked up to it and run games using a GTX 760. Most games seem to hit 60 FPS at 1080p. One other thing to consider is the higher your resolution the smaller the UI gets in many games. In World of Warcraft the UI would likely become to small to read on a monitor. You would have to have a gigantic TV to utilize it. At 1200p on computer the WoW UI is very small on a 24 inch monitor. The game was designed for 1024x768 and you can tell. If you adjust the resolution to 720ish p the text is much more readable even though the graphics become a bit pixelated.
I have a hard time distinguishing 720p from 1080p. If I go stand next to a 4k tv it looks nice. But don't ask me to tell you which is the 4k or 1080p TV from 3 metres away, I won't be able to tell you.
I think a lot of people are fooled by the fact that 4k TV simply tend to have better contrast ratios and better color than 1080p TV. But the better image quality isn't down to the increased resolution.
yeh .. anecdotal example is just that. People can say anything on the internet.
In fact, last time i was at a best buy look at TVs, i canNOT tell the difference between 4K and 1080P and I certainly am not going to pay good money for benefits that I cannot see.
If you can not see the difference between 1080p and 4K then you need to see a doctor and get your eyes checked out. Seriously, there is something wrong with your eyes.
and i have my vision check every year, so i doubt it is me.
We are talking about looking at a TV screen at a normal distance right? I am not talking about going up close to 5 inches from the screen and try to find the pixels.
In fact, at a normal distance to a tv .. i cannot see single pixels on my 1080p .. can you? If not, upping the resolution does nothing.
I am 3 feet away from my Monitor and i see a big difference. I am 8-9 feet away from my living room TV and see a difference. IF you sit 20 feet away then of cause you won't see a difference.
I have a hard time distinguishing 720p from 1080p. If I go stand next to a 4k tv it looks nice. But don't ask me to tell you which is the 4k or 1080p TV from 3 metres away, I won't be able to tell you.
I think a lot of people are fooled by the fact that 4k TV simply tend to have better contrast ratios and better color than 1080p TV. But the better image quality isn't down to the increased resolution.
Depends on the size of the screen, If you can't see a difference 3m away on a 50"+ then you got bad eye sight.
This whole discussion reminds me when 720p was all the rage and everyone said you don't need 1080p and you don't see a difference. It's ridiculous and we all know it.
"But the better image quality isn't down to the increased resolution"
Sure it is. Its no different then going from 480p to 1080p.
Look guys, we get it.
But don't try to tell us it looks that much better in all situations. It flat out doesn't.
With the right size and the right distance there is a difference. Its nowhere near the difference from 480 to 1080 though. Thats just crap. Just because you say it is, does not dispute the evidence to the contrary.
But to come down to the basic point here, you definitely need more horsepower in your rig to run the games, plus it probably won't help with lag in an MMO. Single player different story.
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"But the better image quality isn't down to the increased resolution"
Sure it is. Its no different then going from 480p to 1080p.
Look guys, we get it.
But don't try to tell us it looks that much better in all situations. It flat out doesn't.
With the right size and the right distance there is a difference. Its nowhere near the difference from 480 to 1080 though. Thats just crap. Just because you say it is, does not dispute the evidence to the contrary.
But to come down to the basic point here, you definitely need more horsepower in your rig to run the games, plus it probably won't help with lag in an MMO. Single player different story.
I also think anti aliasing takes care of most of the jaggies these days anyway. It might not be as much detail but 1080p is pretty darn detailed already. The question is it worth the extra money spent and the extra power consumed. To me I can't say yes to this just yet. Maybe one day it will be. I remember playing on standard black and white 13 inch CRT TVs when I was a kid. The picture was often fuzzy due to using a coaxial cable and Antenna. My first computer was monochrome and my second one was like 16 colors. Going from 16 colors to 16000ish and then 32 million ish made a huge difference. Going from 640x480 to 1024x768 made a huge difference. I don't think going from 1080p to 4k is a huge difference. It is just so good already it's hard to complain. Everything is super sharp.
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I don't think 4K is as far away as people think / want it to be. PC gaming certainly seems to be what's pushing it forward currently, and G-sync is going to make FPS much, much more bearable when playing with it. As soon as the elder generations have passed away, expect to see a more general push as far as technology goes.
And Sony? Experts? They should've dropped their TV business a long time ago.
The elder generations? LOL
I agree that in a gaming situation is where you will see the most difference, assuming your monitor is quite large, ( I would think at least 32 inch and up) and you are sitting the usual < 5 feet distance from the screen. Also most likely to see the most 4 K content, with games.
Large screen projection will also benefit. It is the average Joe with the 60 inch screen sitting at the usual 8 to 10 foot distance that probably won't notice anything dramatic.
Also the amount of improvement is subjective and different for everyone. Your experience may vary, should be the disclaimer.
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The way things are going you will just need a TV - forget the computer - if you look at the way TVs are going they are becoming very powerful. And mass production will take care of the cost. As you say though this type of discussion has come up many times. Just a question of time.
Rasberry Pie 2 was announced today as well: same size; quad core processor; 1GB memory; c. 6 times more powerful; able to run Windows 10 in the future announced; $35 price tag ex. tax. Enough said.
Sony doesn't make TV panels, they are Samsung and LG panels.
Most people think there are like 20 TV makers, only 3 companies make TV panels afaik, LG, Samsung and AUoptronics.
I have heard of a 4th Chinese panel maker, but I'm not sure how far they are right now wtih development.
I don't believe Sharp is still heavily involved in panel making, they used to be.
Sony has also said they are now focusing on the playstation brand and no longer on TV.
However, Sony is involved in the 4k camera business. So they do know what they're talking about.
I am pretty sure if you give me a 4k screen and a 1k screen, I will be able to spot the difference without even getting close to the screen.
I am not sure why you are trying so hard to prove that 4k makes no difference when it clearly does.It is the future and in a few years we will all be seeing 2k or 4k as the new mainstream resolution, the way 1080p is now. People claim that they see a difference between 1080p and 2k on a phone! On a phone that is 5 inch big. And you are talking about 84 inches. If you think about the PPI you get on a PC, it's just pathetic. What is your PPI on your 25 inch screen at 1080p? My laptop which is 15 inches is running the same resolution and I would say that 720p looks disgusting on a laptop. And we are talking about very small devices here - 15 inch laptops and 5 inch phones.
4k is clearer and sharper. However, I think at the moment running games at 4k is ridiculously expensive. SO while it provies a better quality picture, it is questionable if it is worth all the money you would be throwing at 4k peripherals. AFter a few years when it becomes cheap, sure but at the moment it's quite expensive.
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The prices are down already. I have a EVGA GTX 970 ($350) and a Asus 4K monitor ($500) and i run all new games in 4K with solid minimum of 40+ FPS. It's worth every penny, not only for games but also for working with multiple windows or in Adobe Premiere where you have a full resolution 1080p preview taking up just 1/4th of the screen. Productivity is a big thing for me as Designer and Programmer. 4K just gives me the ability to be more productive with the same size screen as before.
How does that statement add up to the studies and real life tests that say otherwise.
Is there anything but anecdotal evidence that you can distinguish 4k from 1080p, other than "I'm pretty sure".
While some people claim they can see the difference from a normal distance, the data isn't backing them up.
Give it about 5 years and 4k will just be standard fare.
With your average size monitor, I don't see a lot of benefit. But when were talking multi-monitor, Occulus and big screen I'm singing a different tune.
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4k is a gimmack.. like gaming in 3d. I will eventually become the norm, but as it stands now, you need way to much power to make it worth while, and even those who use it, wont notice it.
Gaming in 4k right now, is basically the same as those ps2 hd remakes, youre doing a simple magic trick and expecting the audience to be impressed with it. If the game wasnt designed in 4k, simply upping the resolution doesnt suddenly make it 4k.
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I don't get the point of 4k, 90% or more of the US can't get TV service that supports it, most are just now catching up to true HD 1080p lol. It may be different in countries with better infrastructure, but in the US our infrastructure is very outdated and expensive.
I spent some time in South Korea and I got internet at 100 up and 100 down for about $13 a month, in the US that costs like $50-60 a month, and then the speeds you actually get are lower.
The point is we do zoom and this is the point where 4k TVs will matter. Larger screens. Thats it. If you have an average size TV, 1080p will be all you need till 4k is the standard. If you have a 60+ inch TV, I could see going 4k would be nice but again, till 4k video and games are the norm, it still does not matter.
Look here children, this is a troll. See "upping the resolution" to 4k, does make it 4k. If you are playing with a resolution resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels with 16:9 aspect ratio or 4096 x 2160 with 19:10 aspect ratio, you have 4k. Doesn't matter if you have low res textures and all graphics settings set to low. It is still 4k.
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I don't think 4K TV's are terribly useful at the moment, since most sources will be 1080P or smaller for the foreseeable future.
4K gaming though? Count me in. That would make a 27"+ monitor alot more appealing, IMO. It'll probably still be awhile for me, though. The core of my machine is Phenom II era stuff. 2008-ish. Methinx I'm gonna have to replace the mobo/cpu/memory before I could do it(for gaming), but I know it definitely wouldn't be pointless.
Most things in a game engine neither know nor care what the monitor resolution is, so those trivially carry over to a higher resolution. Unless the game was stupid about hard-coding in some resolution-related things, increasing the resolution is mostly just a matter of making sure that various 2D things look about the right size rather than being tiny.
Higher texture resolutions put an increased load on video memory capacity requirements, and also increase PCI Express bus bandwidth needs, though the latter is likely to be inconsequential. Higher texture resolutions can require slightly more video memory bandwidth because you'll get fewer cache hits on close-up textures, but that's going to be a pretty minor effect. But other than that, texture resolution is basically irrelevant to monitor resolution.
Sufficiently slow software can make any hardware run poorly. That's what web browsers are for, isn't it?
yeh .. anecdotal example is just that. People can say anything on the internet.
In fact, last time i was at a best buy look at TVs, i canNOT tell the difference between 4K and 1080P and I certainly am not going to pay good money for benefits that I cannot see.
If you can not see the difference between 1080p and 4K then you need to see a doctor and get your eyes checked out. Seriously, there is something wrong with your eyes.
Any decent modern PC can play back 4K without any problem. People just have slow internet, crappy PC's and/or are loaded with bloatware/addware and viruses. It runs fine on my PC with a GTX 970 and a 100mbit connection.and i have my vision check every year, so i doubt it is me.
We are talking about looking at a TV screen at a normal distance right? I am not talking about going up close to 5 inches from the screen and try to find the pixels.
In fact, at a normal distance to a tv .. i cannot see single pixels on my 1080p .. can you? If not, upping the resolution does nothing.
To get the FPS I'm used to on my monitor I would need something like a Titan. The GTX 680 I have can run any any game at 1200p to this point at my monitors current refresh rate 60. I'd rather stick with 1080p as it doesn't really bother me at all. Having the frame rate drop below 60 FPS does at times though. Games actually look pretty amazing as they are. If I make an upgrade any time soon it will likely be for a g-sync mointor. I just brought a TV that is 48 inches 1080P. It was around 500 dollars. To me that is a lot of money for a TV. I have both a PC and a PS4 hooked up to it and run games using a GTX 760. Most games seem to hit 60 FPS at 1080p. One other thing to consider is the higher your resolution the smaller the UI gets in many games. In World of Warcraft the UI would likely become to small to read on a monitor. You would have to have a gigantic TV to utilize it. At 1200p on computer the WoW UI is very small on a 24 inch monitor. The game was designed for 1024x768 and you can tell. If you adjust the resolution to 720ish p the text is much more readable even though the graphics become a bit pixelated.
I have a hard time distinguishing 720p from 1080p. If I go stand next to a 4k tv it looks nice. But don't ask me to tell you which is the 4k or 1080p TV from 3 metres away, I won't be able to tell you.
I think a lot of people are fooled by the fact that 4k TV simply tend to have better contrast ratios and better color than 1080p TV. But the better image quality isn't down to the increased resolution.
I am 3 feet away from my Monitor and i see a big difference. I am 8-9 feet away from my living room TV and see a difference. IF you sit 20 feet away then of cause you won't see a difference.
Depends on the size of the screen, If you can't see a difference 3m away on a 50"+ then you got bad eye sight.
This whole discussion reminds me when 720p was all the rage and everyone said you don't need 1080p and you don't see a difference. It's ridiculous and we all know it.
Look guys, we get it.
But don't try to tell us it looks that much better in all situations. It flat out doesn't.
With the right size and the right distance there is a difference. Its nowhere near the difference from 480 to 1080 though. Thats just crap. Just because you say it is, does not dispute the evidence to the contrary.
But to come down to the basic point here, you definitely need more horsepower in your rig to run the games, plus it probably won't help with lag in an MMO. Single player different story.
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I also think anti aliasing takes care of most of the jaggies these days anyway. It might not be as much detail but 1080p is pretty darn detailed already. The question is it worth the extra money spent and the extra power consumed. To me I can't say yes to this just yet. Maybe one day it will be. I remember playing on standard black and white 13 inch CRT TVs when I was a kid. The picture was often fuzzy due to using a coaxial cable and Antenna. My first computer was monochrome and my second one was like 16 colors. Going from 16 colors to 16000ish and then 32 million ish made a huge difference. Going from 640x480 to 1024x768 made a huge difference. I don't think going from 1080p to 4k is a huge difference. It is just so good already it's hard to complain. Everything is super sharp.