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need some advice about my laptop
ello,
2/3 years ago i bought a laptop with the current spec i5-2467m with 1.60ghz and 4 gb of ram and for the gpu i have nvidia geforce gt620M by far when it was new i enjoyed gaming with it but the recent updates and new games released i cant play any decent game even on low sittings without dropping into 10fps is this laptop still decent for games like wildstar/wow wod ?
thanks in advance >.<.
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The laptop never was decent for gaming. It's a lower end Intel CPU chip from its generation together with Nvidia's bottom of the line GPU chip from its generation, both clocked low to save on power. And "its generation" was 2011 for both parts. Parts like that exist so that you can have a low power, portable laptop for people who don't need a lot of performance. But that's not what you want for gaming.
Some games will still run fine, just because some games don't need a lot of performance. That's especially the case with older games, but even a lot of newer games will make it possible to turn settings down and run the game fine.
But if you want more gaming performance, you're going to need a new computer. Ideally, you get a desktop to play games, and keep using the old laptop for whatever portability needs you bought the laptop for in the first place. For stuff like e-mail and web browsing, the old laptop should still be perfectly good. You can get a decent enough gaming desktop for $600, though more money does get you something better up to about $1500. If you're interested, I could help you pick something out.
If you can't spend money on a new computer now, then the lesson to learn is, next time you buy a new computer, don't just buy something at random and hope it's good. Get help from people who know about computers and can point you to sensible hardware for gaming. Even if you don't know any such people in real-life, there are plenty of people on the Internet, including some who hang out here.
I guess im still confused. Are you wanting a new laptop or are you willing to build a new desktop?
As he said, that current laptop would have trouble running games in 2011, ya, you could play something like hearthstone on it. You *might* be able to play WOW on the lowest possible settings and get a decent framerate, but i'd be surprised.
Realistically my reccomendation would be to buy a new desktop. Like he said, $600 bucks can get you a pretty solid setup that is going to blow the lid off the laptop you have currently.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Like others have said. If money is tight, you can build a very good PC for $600. If it's no longer an issue, there are a ton of good gaming laptops out there. Just for an example, take a look at Sagers. I've had 3 and have never had an issue. My current one can run anything maxed out on the market while the laptop idles.
1) Exactly which parts do you have that you're hoping to use? Give exact brand names and models if possible, or as much detail as you have if not. If you give a vague description of a component, it's not always possible to know which other components will be compatible with it.
2) What is your budget for buying new parts to fill out the build?
3) Why do you happen to have a bunch of new SSDs and other components laying around in the first place?
So there is this big fat long key on the right side of your keyboard, its has the word "Enter" printed on it. Learn how to use it.
That being said, from what i can tell from this "post" (I use that term loosely), you have the start of a decent setup.
The motherboard is a great motherboard, but there are really only 3 processor you can buy for it, the cheapest of which is about $380.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402
Outside of that, RAM is going to pricey for that board, 16gb kits around $160-170:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148866
Otherwise, my suggestion if you're intent on using that motherboard is to buy the above processor/memory. Use the 128gb as your OS install drive, the 512gb SSD as your game/programs drive. Slap it all into the case you have, with the power supply you have, and then buy a 960 gtx (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091&cm_re=gtx_960-_-14-487-091-_-Product) for about $200 bucks and call it a day. That setup should last you a LONG time, and you can upgrade the video card in a couple years and still be sitting pretty.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
first of all thank you for the part list and prices and the whole suggestion list.
but for the same price of the vga card or close to it i can go for a radion r9 290 with double the size, but i seriously never tried amd stuff before its not like i care about nvdia since i dont really care much about the features it has like shadowplay or broadcasting games and i dont even own a shield.
and the heat part, my room is always cooled to 75 degrees since i live in the middle east i always sit in a cold room and for sure i will have air blowing on the pc that is cold i wanted to factor that in my pc build i could pay a lil bit more than that for a gpu that would last me a while and give me a performance i want.
and like i said am playing on 50" hdmi tv from samsung so i dunno how that evga card would act with it while am playing or if my vga choice and spec would even effect the monitor am playing on >.<
That key is nice to use. I also like punctuation, like periods and question marks. Separating complete sentences makes them so much easier to read.
Hint: OP: If you write better, people are usually more willing to help you and take you seriously. If you write like 12-year-old uses their phone for sending text messages, people may assume you don't have the education or knowledge necessary to perform basic computer repairs.
Communication is one of the most important things in life. If you write like that on your resume, you won't even get a job at a fast food restaurant.
I wouldn't have recommended going with Haswell-E, but you've already bought the motherboard, and it's presumably too late to return it. On a big enough budget, it will be fine.
For memory, basically, you want 4 modules of DDR4, probably 4 GB modules since that's the smallest that DDR4 comes in. So you could just say, here's the list on New Egg and pick whichever is cheapest:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600521523%20600006073&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=30
The Crucial Ballistix Sport that Hrimnir linked is on a shell shocker (very short term discount), so if you can get it at $200, go ahead, but don't still buy it if it's $250 by the time you check.
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Spending $470 on a motherboard, $300 on an SSD (I don't know what you paid, but it's probably in that ballpark), $200 on memory, $200+ on a power supply, and then only $200 on a video card as Hrimnir suggested strikes me as a strange thing to do. Still, spending so much on some other components mostly dictated by prior purchases and you don't seem that largely limited on budget.
I'd sooner grab this for a video card, as it's quite a bit faster than a GTX 960:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150697
Depending on how budget limited you are, if you want the fastest card on the market, a GeForce GTX 980 is it. But it costs $550, so it's just a question of whether you want to pay that. A video card is easy to upgrade later if you decide that you need more performance in a few years.
thanks for the heads up and the gpu listings so far, so far i think that the asus motherboard was sorta a mistake would u recommend me going for another mother board if so given that my budget is around 1600 for only basic parts such as cpu/motherboard rams and gpu.
would u recommend me starting an amd build at all with a budget of 1600$?
Honestly, if you have a $1600 budget, i would use the components you already have and get a huge beefy video card, like a 970gtx minimum, prferrably a 980. If you're intent on AMD (which strikes me as odd, but whatever), then go for a R9 290X or a R9 295X.
While like quizzical said, we normally wouldn't reccomend a haswell-e for a gaming rig, you have a $300 motherboard already, and DDR4 is nice and fast, etc. So, you might as well make use of what you have. Plus, in the future as games get a little better at utilizing multiple cores, that 6 core will be nice.
You really don't need to spend $1600 to get a nice setup. The stuff i linked before + a top end video card is gonna put you at the $1100 range and you will have a smoking fast rig that would easily last you 2-3 years without the need for an upgrade.
BTW. Nothing is wrong with the haswell E, its a beast of a processor. 6 core, etc. Its just that under "ideal" circumstances, a 4 core with a higher clock rate would be "better". Keep in mind we're talking 5 or 10% difference in framerates on a good day. Of far more importance is the video card. Also, the fact that the haswell e is a 6 core, could potentially make up for the slightly slower clock rate per core in the next 2 or 3 years if game makers start better utilizing multiple cores. So, i honestly wouldn't stress too much over it.
With a $1600 i certainly wouldn't completely abandon your existing motherboard and go with an AMD CPU. Amd is fine on the video card end, but for that level of budget you ABSOLUTELY want an intel CPU. Period.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
i didn't consider abandoning it at all, i just said leave it for few months as i start getting some extra money.
atm am sorta jobless so the income isn't that fancy at all and thinking about it having 2 decent rigs on the course of few months isn't a bad idea all i said is that platform over all seem pricey for me atm, instead am thinking about making a 1600$ build on a lower platform like a cheaper i7 with decent graphics in my existing case and later on order a case labs case for the rampage motherboard while going with a fitting performance parts in it aka making a dream gaming pc like investing in a titan z vga for it.
and some cooling kit and a nice ram 32gb ram with a decent speed.
the thing that baffled me about the rampage or the lga 2011v3 platform was how demanding it was and how few the parts for it ,i didnt know that the cpu could be diffrent at all let alone rams, if its that kind of build then i wanna be committed to it 100% while 2 extra pcs as those would be useful for me on other stuff keeping in mind all i have is an iMac and the laptop.
all am saying is i didn't feel like rushing my self into building the rampage even with that type of budget this is the type of build am thinking about for it .
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ZsJGX
as for the other build am starting with these parts which i find them sorta decent if i picked anything wrong regarding the cpu or vga please give me an advice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WTXHsY
ALl of that makes sense, just a couple of thoughts, things to chew on
1. The processor selection for that board isn't going to change. You basically have the option of a $380 / $550 or $1k plus processor.
2. Why spend $1600 on a new computer, when you can spend $1100 and use the same components you have already and have a BEASTLY machine? I want to stress, the difference in framerates between the haswell-e processor and a more traditional i7 are going to be 5-10% on a good day.
Anyways, either way, just my thoughts. If you do decide to do an all new build we can help you with that too.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
okay first of all thank you for the advice but the reason am going for 2 builds isn't for performance or anything in all honesty i have 2 samsung tv one of them is 60" tv and the other is a 65" uhd tv i sorta gave up on console gaming given that i only play gta on play station and forza games on xbox.
this letting me stay with 2 useless tv in a gaming room with nothing at all to do with them so having 2 pc is gona be a blast at least from my personal prespective i use something called mulitiplicity as a kvm switch the current room setup demands it for me to keep the pc near cold air source while i remain in a safe distance, and tbh i would like to see a pc in my room performing well given i only played on a 17"laptop and an imac, i wasnt really happy with their performace the past.
year and this year the games are demanding and at the same time i sorta duelbox 2 games when i play one is wildstar and the other is wow given the scale am going for on the pc spec is sorta big but i want them to perform well on tv i have no past experiance on how pc gaming will be on tv but i was told i needed a strong machine to push it.
Ok cool, all that being said, if i were personally going to spend $1600 on a PC tommorow, this is roughly what i would do:
Core i7-4790k - $325
Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK - $155
16GB DDR3- (I like G.Skill, Corsair, Crucial, whatevs) - $ 130 ish
Corsair 450d Case - $120
2x Samsung 850 EVO, 128gb System Drive $80, 512gb game drive $200
Corsair HX650 - $120
Nvidia GTX 970 - $330
Windows 8.1 - $92
$1552
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
thanks for the advice, the pc already been built 4 days ago i went with i5 4690k along with asus maximus VII formla and gskull ripjaws with asus strix 970 and some random corsair modular psu and CM case i had laying around for hd i went with one off intell line up and corsair gforce to try them out .
thanks for far for the help every one =D
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche