I disagree. Real PvP is about the ability to attack anywhere at anytime. A good PvP system has guards in place to discourage the attacking of those that would normally not want it, or are less powerful than you. I don't necessarily want to kill that carebear - but I like knowing I could - damn the cost.
Arenas and dueling systems are... weak, at best.
Real PvP dont allow you to gain an edge against players by killing PvE mobs. End of discussion.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
"PvP is not critical. A solid PvE game has the same chance for sucess. The problem is that there are no solid PvE games right now. They have all been peverted into PvP games. The devs use PvP as a excuse to not develope end game content."
Exactly! And when dev's do that, it's kind of cheap since the implementation often has nothing to do with the game world. In CoH I understand it, since the heroes fight the villians. But often it is implemented, as you said, instead of adding value to the original game. If PvP is a natural side of the game I can't deny the greatness of it, but when it is just implemented so the kids can whack each other for no reason, I say no.
To be a bit "over the top", I say: "If you want to kill each other, play CS".
I disagree. Real PvP is about the ability to attack anywhere at anytime. A good PvP system has guards in place to discourage the attacking of those that would normally not want it, or are less powerful than you. I don't necessarily want to kill that carebear - but I like knowing I could - damn the cost.
Arenas and dueling systems are... weak, at best.
I can advice you to go see a shrink if you feel the urgre to kill people for no reason. If you think about it (or read the highlighted sentence in it's whole), it's sick.
Look on the brightside. I think Gladiatorial contests would be awesome, especially with the combat system expected in imperator. Think about it. You. And that other guy...staring eachother down, sidling around in a circle, then pouncing on one another! Locked in an eternal power struggle over eachother! I'm sure that the avid PvP gamer would enjoy that, think of the fame...the prizes...oh man, I can't wait to watch in in one of Romes many sportsbars
Yes, gladiatorial contests is a good PvP system for this game. Might even try it out if I want a break from PvE a while, and I hope it's fun. Can't wait for this game for many reasons...
I believe as this game evoles it will indeed have a form of PVP, the dev's most likely want to get it right first. Imperator's first expansion may introduce a playable race for PVP.
Im not big into PvP unless I hop into Planetside or Americas Army. I find MMOs fun to explore and do missions, but I can understand the PvP aspect being appealing to this game.
I personally am a mark for unlimited PvP (Lineage 2 style...although I hated that game) but I wouldn't say it's required. Some days, I'm just feeling like an ass, and I want to kill every low level player that walks in front of me. Other days, I just don't feel like fighting other players, and I'd rather just craft or level.
I think there's a reason why Mythic chose not to make PvP a focus, and that's because of DAoC. They neveer truly balanced the PvP in that game, and I think they found it to be too much of a headache to implement a faulty PvP system, rather thanintroduce a working, limited PvP system.
While Battlegrounds in WoW are tremendous fun, normal PvP did get stale quick. I played on Mal'Ganis as a Shaman, and once you get the basics down (Priests > Shaman > Mage > Rogue all) you realize that the game is kind of imbalanced. Shadow Priests are gods, Warriors will always lose, and Paladins are a laugh (love killing them 3 full times before they die)
I'll be playing Imperator for a few reasons though. 1) It's a company which I don't believe will do something stupid, like SOE. /pizza, the credit card deal, the Station Exchange, I frown upon all these features greatly, and it seems to me Mythic's devs do too. 2) Setting. Futuristic MMO's are a lot less common than Fantasy MMO's. Frankly, I'm sick of running around punching orcs in the face. 3) State-based-combat. This seems to be the game's big draw, and if it's a success, it might revolutionize gameplay and PvP as we know it.
So I know some of you said you won't be playing this game, but I'd still recommend you give it a shot. Who knows, maybe the new combat system will revitalize the genre?
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Originally posted by Farakon Yeah, it would be awesome to have pvp, maybe spaceship wise.
The problem with that is that there is not going to be any spaceship combat at all, PvP or otherwise.
My guess on this is space combat will come with an expansion like SWG and Jump to Lightspeed. Now, lets just pray that some kind of PvP is implemented as well.
Although...PvP doesn't necessarily automatically make a game great.
Mythic had such a great thing with DAoC, that I gotta hope this one lives up to hype.
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- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Look on the brightside. I think Gladiatorial contests would be awesome, especially with the combat system expected in imperator. Think about it. You. And that other guy...staring eachother down, sidling around in a circle, then pouncing on one another! Locked in an eternal power struggle over eachother! I'm sure that the avid PvP gamer would enjoy that, think of the fame...the prizes...oh man, I can't wait to watch in in one of Romes many sportsbars
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Im not big into PvP unless I hop into Planetside or Americas Army. I find MMOs fun to explore and do missions, but I can understand the PvP aspect being appealing to this game.
I personally am a mark for unlimited PvP (Lineage 2 style...although I hated that game) but I wouldn't say it's required. Some days, I'm just feeling like an ass, and I want to kill every low level player that walks in front of me. Other days, I just don't feel like fighting other players, and I'd rather just craft or level.
I think there's a reason why Mythic chose not to make PvP a focus, and that's because of DAoC. They neveer truly balanced the PvP in that game, and I think they found it to be too much of a headache to implement a faulty PvP system, rather thanintroduce a working, limited PvP system.
While Battlegrounds in WoW are tremendous fun, normal PvP did get stale quick. I played on Mal'Ganis as a Shaman, and once you get the basics down (Priests > Shaman > Mage > Rogue all) you realize that the game is kind of imbalanced. Shadow Priests are gods, Warriors will always lose, and Paladins are a laugh (love killing them 3 full times before they die)
I'll be playing Imperator for a few reasons though.
1) It's a company which I don't believe will do something stupid, like SOE. /pizza, the credit card deal, the Station Exchange, I frown upon all these features greatly, and it seems to me Mythic's devs do too.
2) Setting. Futuristic MMO's are a lot less common than Fantasy MMO's. Frankly, I'm sick of running around punching orcs in the face.
3) State-based-combat. This seems to be the game's big draw, and if it's a success, it might revolutionize gameplay and PvP as we know it.
So I know some of you said you won't be playing this game, but I'd still recommend you give it a shot. Who knows, maybe the new combat system will revitalize the genre?
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
There are actually more PvE gamers, then PvP, its just that the PvP gamers speak alot louder, and complain ALOT more
My guess on this is space combat will come with an expansion like SWG and Jump to Lightspeed. Now, lets just pray that some kind of PvP is implemented as well.
Although...PvP doesn't necessarily automatically make a game great.
Mythic had such a great thing with DAoC, that I gotta hope this one lives up to hype.
Mythic seems to have developed the best PvP system out there w/ DAoC.
The state-based combat would be a shame to waste on only PvE.
I hope they do implement some sort of PvP whether it's at release or with an expansion.
I am looking forward to this one, and at the very least will try it.
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