why there will be no pvp in this game

puffdragon

Mark doesnt want to listen to "You nerfed us!!!! Mythic SUX!!!" for the next five years. =P

Zap-Robo

No PvP? Which stone have you been hiding under?

From the RPGFan Preview: "What about PvP, you may ask? Since the philosophy behind Imperator is to attract rather than alienate the casual gamer, PvP will be optional, and mostly be present in the endgame as a gladiatorial life path. Players will be able to duke it out in the coliseum for fame and prizes, while those not as combative in nature, can avoid it entirely with no penalties."

From the Worthplaying Preview: "There will be PvP in Imperator, although it won't be the end-game like it is in DAoC. One lesson it was nice to see Mythic learn is that the skills you use in PvP are separate from the ones you use in PvE. As a result, that great skill you use to handily defeat a monster won't have a player shouting, "Nerf this, buddy!" This is probably one of the biggest areas they have struggled with in Camelot, and this is a workable solution. There haven't been many details released about how PvP will work, but it's a safe bet there will be some sort of gladiatorial combat."

From the MMORPG.com Preview: "A gladiatorial system is another possibility. Mark Jacobs did point out one very neat point when discussing this and PvP in general. What is the number one complaint people have with Dark Age of Camelot? It is often the balance issues. The reason? It is very hard to make things work in PvE that also work in PvP. The solution? Create a totally independent system for PvP, from PvE."

From the RPG Vault Preview: "As often occurs at such events, assorted bits and pieces of information also came to light. For one, it was confirmed that Imperator will have a gladiatorial PvP element, and even an end game. Mark Jacobs stated clearly that this will be as separate as possible from the PvE portion, with different skill and level schemes, an approach that provides the added benefit of making both parts easier to balance."

However, galditorial combat will be only one of the multiple end-games, others discussed include Politics - getting yourself onto the Senate and helping shape Republic policy!

Harafnir

Yes, of course Mythic make a new game and remove the sole reason their first game was such a success for so many years... Business logic extreme!

Zap-Robo

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Originally posted by Harafnir
Yes, of course Mythic make a new game and remove the sole reason their first game was such a success for so many years... Business logic extreme!

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If you want to see the next RvR game from Mythic, please head along to http://www.warhammeronline.com/ and to http://www.warhammeronlineforum.com/ to discuss it, thanks!

puffdragon

Oh rockin. They opened the warhammer online forums?

puffdragon

lol... You got my hopes up there.

 

Zap-Robo

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Originally posted by puffdragon
Oh rockin. They opened the warhammer online forums?

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No, it's a fan run site but Mark Jacobs has been posting over there (see their General Forum sticky). And it wasn't a wind-up, though I did mispell the URL when I posted it earlier - fixed now.

Seriously, and back on topic, Imperator is not the "next step" for DAoC players. This is primarily a PvE game, and while PvP is planned to be in, it will be only one of several "end-games". If you want a fully PvP scifi game then Imperator is not it.

Class balance is already being worked on, as are ingame skills so at this late stage (from a development POV) there is not going to be wide-scale PvP introduced. No matter how much you complain about DAoC being the game that started them off, and how ignoring PvP will be their downfall.

If you want RvR you have Dark Age. You'll have Warhammer as well. Imperator is for the players who want a solid story-driven MMO.