If you like PVP that is player skill based then I would say GW2. If you like PVP that is gear based, then ESO.
If you like your siege engines to shoot farther than 100 feet, then GW2. If you like all of your siege engines to fire shorter than 100 feet and all roughly the same range, and can be controlled by licking your keyboard, then ESO.
If you also like smaller scale instanced, objective based battle grounds, then GW2. If not, then still GW2 or ESO.
You're fighting a losing battle man. You've put up a good fight for the last year, but I think it's time to throw in the towel.
Watch a couple side by side videos OP then decide. The choice should be pretty clear.
Considering DAoC is the reason behind the success of the 3 faction warfare. I believe ESO comes the closest to being a spiritual successor in regards to the RvR aspect. For every one person who complains about ESO, there's ten people who praise it. I was one of those who complained back when it was about to launch. So much so that I refused to buy the game. However, after being given an offer I couldn't refused over Christmas, I broke down and bought the Imperial Edition for $30. All I can say is, ESO is by far one of the best MMO's made in the past 10 years. ESO has made a complete 180 since it launched and I now recommend it for anyone that loves Elder Scrolls or anyone looking for a good guild oriented, yet solo friendly game.
For every 1 person who praises rvr in ESO theres 10000 who quit it and could barely fill 1 campaign with 600 player cap.
"spiritual sccessor" lol
ESO is good for story and slow pace, GW2 is better in every other aspect, so i would say both depending on the mood.
Also ESO has huge grind to get to competitive state in pvp (and with CPs it will only get worse and worse), GW2 is more like GW1 in that aspect.
I guess the fact that I was one of those who completely bashed the game at launch didn't seem to register in your head. I also played GW2 for many years. I never said GW2 was a completely pile of dung like I do about ArcheAge. GW2 and ESO have their pro's and con's but there is no way anyone can say GW2 WvW is better than ESO's Cyrodiil with a straight face who has actually played ESO since 1.6 update. Sure, people will complain there is lag in ESO's PvP, just as much as I could claim there is still culling in GW2 WvW. It's old and very outdated news and highly inaccurate.
As for ESO being a game of gear. Well, yes and no, considering you can still kill VR10+ as a VR1-4 if you know how to play your character. I know because I've done it. The latest being my VR3 Sorcerer killing a VR12 Templar.
Champion Points are of course the newest reason for haters of ESO to complain about. Just a small example of how CP's work and thanks for bringing it up. If you remember how Realm Ranks worked in Dark Age of Camelot, than thats basically how CP's work in ESO. Most of the % based skills have diminishing returns so early on that putting more than 10 points in them is certainly a waste early on. Anyway, CP's and PvP skill line in ESO also helps make this game a better successor to DAoC, which in my opinion is a good thing.
I would agree that ESO is a better game than GW2 in my personal opinion for me, but it is incorrect to say that the lag in PVP is resolved in ESO. The culling has however been largely resolved in GW2. The issues with performance in ESO PVP is poorly optimised use of multiple cores, and that continues to be the case - check out core 1.
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I would agree that ESO is a better game than GW2 in my personal opinion for me, but it is incorrect to say that the lag in PVP is resolved in ESO. The culling has however been largely resolved in GW2. The issues with performance in ESO PVP is poorly optimised use of multiple cores, and that continues to be the case - check out core 1.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
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