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Star Citizen: Big Patch Adds Rental Equipment Credit System and More

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Star Citizen players will need to check out the latest patch notes and the news that previous versions of the game will need to be uninstalled prior to downloading the new client version.

The patch notes are huge but some items of significance include:


  • the Rental Equipment Credit System is now online and functioning

  • Two new real dollar ships have been added: Gladius ($105) for Arena Commander and Retaliator ($300) for hangar display

  • ship thruster turbulence has been added

  • UI improvements and tweaks

The patch also includes a significant number of balance alterations as well as bug fixes and more.


 


Check out the full update notes on the Star Citizen site.


 


 








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  • fenrisbluefenrisblue Member UncommonPosts: 138
    $300 for a ship in a game that hasn't been released yet ? that sends up a few red flags for me, mind you i have dropped hundreds of dollars in mmos , but never just on one thing, and NEVER in a game that hasn't been released, i went on youtube to see what the reviews are like of course most of them have been by backers, so its really hard to get an idea of how it is really doing, and after all if something isnt working you can just say " well it is still in alpha" and that's about what DaGaimez says , and that was on february  27, i am sure this game is on the up and up, but i have been burned on one too many kick starter/greenlight/crowdfunded games to just jump right in just because someone that has payed 200 dollars(angryjoe)  told me to, the "frankenstein walking animation"(DaGaimez) is enough to give me great pause,and the subpar review for the Gladius($105) from BoredGamer a week ago really doesn't inspire me to want to go out and spend the cash, at least i can say that it doesnt seem to be pay to win,but that is only from the info i could dig up in a half hour,from backers, in conclusion, I have no solid information on this game ,and i am staying away from it till launch,actual launch, like when they say"the game is out of every alpha and beta"launch
  • munsil42munsil42 Member UncommonPosts: 96
    Originally posted by fenrisblue
    $300 for a ship in a game that hasn't been released yet ? that sends up a few red flags for me, mind you i have dropped hundreds of dollars in mmos , but never just on one thing, and NEVER in a game that hasn't been released, i went on youtube to see what the reviews are like of course most of them have been by backers, so its really hard to get an idea of how it is really doing, and after all if something isnt working you can just say " well it is still in alpha" and that's about what DaGaimez says , and that was on february  27, i am sure this game is on the up and up, but i have been burned on one too many kick starter/greenlight/crowdfunded games to just jump right in just because someone that has payed 200 dollars(angryjoe)  told me to, the "frankenstein walking animation"(DaGaimez) is enough to give me great pause,and the subpar review for the Gladius($105) from BoredGamer a week ago really doesn't inspire me to want to go out and spend the cash, at least i can say that it doesnt seem to be pay to win,but that is only from the info i could dig up in a half hour,from backers, in conclusion, I have no solid information on this game ,and i am staying away from it till launch,actual launch, like when they say"the game is out of every alpha and beta"launch

    After all this ranting you end with, "I have no solid information on this game." Seriously?

    I have been a backer since the beginning with only spending $80 (not $300 like you are crying about). I got a ship, Alpha/Beta access, some credits, and whatever fluff stuff they gave me as well. It's been awesome watching the development of the game from the beginning till now. No regrets here...

  • Stone_FountainStone_Fountain Member UncommonPosts: 233
    Even though I have no intention of playing this title, I am excited for it's success. It looks great and people are going to really love it. 

    First PC Game: Pool of Radiance July 10th, 1990. First MMO: Everquest April 23, 1999

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Why would anyone rent equipment for game that is still not out ?

    What you pay the money to fly a ship in small flight demo ?

     

     

    Another thing. I thought all these ships were supposed to be part of the game. Something you can buy in the game with in game money once the game is live ?

    Is it still true ? If yes, why are people buying them for hundreds of dollars ??



  • VaselVasel Member UncommonPosts: 226
    There are definitely some pros and cons getting on board with a game before its launched. There are several unprecedented things this game is doing. The one thing that this game is doing  that sets it apart from any other is the mountain of information you are getting every day about its development. 
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by Vasel
    There are definitely some pros and cons getting on board with a game before its launched. There are several unprecedented things this game is doing. The one thing that this game is doing  that sets it apart from any other is the mountain of information you are getting every day about its development. 

    Don't forget about the cash shop before the game is completed or released

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Originally posted by munsil42
    Originally posted by fenrisblue
    $300 for a ship in a game that hasn't been released yet ? that sends up a few red flags for me, mind you i have dropped hundreds of dollars in mmos , but never just on one thing, and NEVER in a game that hasn't been released, i went on youtube to see what the reviews are like of course most of them have been by backers, so its really hard to get an idea of how it is really doing, and after all if something isnt working you can just say " well it is still in alpha" and that's about what DaGaimez says , and that was on february  27, i am sure this game is on the up and up, but i have been burned on one too many kick starter/greenlight/crowdfunded games to just jump right in just because someone that has payed 200 dollars(angryjoe)  told me to, the "frankenstein walking animation"(DaGaimez) is enough to give me great pause,and the subpar review for the Gladius($105) from BoredGamer a week ago really doesn't inspire me to want to go out and spend the cash, at least i can say that it doesnt seem to be pay to win,but that is only from the info i could dig up in a half hour,from backers, in conclusion, I have no solid information on this game ,and i am staying away from it till launch,actual launch, like when they say"the game is out of every alpha and beta"launch

    After all this ranting you end with, "I have no solid information on this game." Seriously?

    I have been a backer since the beginning with only spending $80 (not $300 like you are crying about). I got a ship, Alpha/Beta access, some credits, and whatever fluff stuff they gave me as well. It's been awesome watching the development of the game from the beginning till now. No regrets here...

    His references were to the KNOWLEDGE base which is cost of ships.not on the actual game which NOBODY has information on because there is no game,just some simple flying around and EVERYTHING can be changed by launch.So the only real hardcore knowledge is they are charging TOO MUCH for a ship in a game.

    I watched a streamer 3 days ago playing  Elite Dangerous,guess what he has a ship and can play and did not have to buy his ship.

    As to watching a game develop,we can  do that without spending any money,and of course have no regrets about not spending any money.

    To say you have no regrets before the game is even out,is just a blind statement,you don't say you have no  regrets until .AFTER you see what you got for your money,not before lol.That is like saying,i have no regrets buying this pizza that has not yet been delivered,then after you open the box,find out it is burnt and freak out.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • munsil42munsil42 Member UncommonPosts: 96
    Originally posted by Wizardry
    Originally posted by munsil42
    Originally posted by fenrisblue
    $300 for a ship in a game that hasn't been released yet ? that sends up a few red flags for me, mind you i have dropped hundreds of dollars in mmos , but never just on one thing, and NEVER in a game that hasn't been released, i went on youtube to see what the reviews are like of course most of them have been by backers, so its really hard to get an idea of how it is really doing, and after all if something isnt working you can just say " well it is still in alpha" and that's about what DaGaimez says , and that was on february  27, i am sure this game is on the up and up, but i have been burned on one too many kick starter/greenlight/crowdfunded games to just jump right in just because someone that has payed 200 dollars(angryjoe)  told me to, the "frankenstein walking animation"(DaGaimez) is enough to give me great pause,and the subpar review for the Gladius($105) from BoredGamer a week ago really doesn't inspire me to want to go out and spend the cash, at least i can say that it doesnt seem to be pay to win,but that is only from the info i could dig up in a half hour,from backers, in conclusion, I have no solid information on this game ,and i am staying away from it till launch,actual launch, like when they say"the game is out of every alpha and beta"launch

    After all this ranting you end with, "I have no solid information on this game." Seriously?

    I have been a backer since the beginning with only spending $80 (not $300 like you are crying about). I got a ship, Alpha/Beta access, some credits, and whatever fluff stuff they gave me as well. It's been awesome watching the development of the game from the beginning till now. No regrets here...

    His references were to the KNOWLEDGE base which is cost of ships.not on the actual game which NOBODY has information on because there is no game,just some simple flying around and EVERYTHING can be changed by launch.So the only real hardcore knowledge is they are charging TOO MUCH for a ship in a game.

    I watched a streamer 3 days ago playing  Elite Dangerous,guess what he has a ship and can play and did not have to buy his ship.

    As to watching a game develop,we can  do that without spending any money,and of course have no regrets about not spending any money.

    To say you have no regrets before the game is even out,is just a blind statement,you don't say you have no  regrets until .AFTER you see what you got for your money,not before lol.That is like saying,i have no regrets buying this pizza that has not yet been delivered,then after you open the box,find out it is burnt and freak out.

    Seriously? I have never spent any amount of time to complain about something then just end I have no real information. How about just ask? God FORBID someone asks without complaining first about a game they know nothing about.

    As to your comment about myself saying I don't regret the purchase. For someone who doesn't know me at all I could care less what you think I regret or don't regret. I spend money wisely, so if I don't like the game when it comes out, then oh well, I still won't regret it. I also won't come running to these forums and cry, complain and stomp my feet which seems to be commonplace now.

  • crysentcrysent Member UncommonPosts: 841
    This company loves it's money and doesn'seem to be having issues making it off the whales.

    I think this general trend of paying hundreds of dollars for in game items months and years before a game releases is very bothersome, and even though I have no right to tell people what to spend their money on, I hate seeing this type of stuff get reinforced by people willing to throw away hundreds of dollars.

    It just seems crazy that this game is just stacked with so many p2w options.
  • AzothAzoth Member UncommonPosts: 840
    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Why would anyone rent equipment for game that is still not out ?

    What you pay the money to fly a ship in small flight demo ?

     

     

    Another thing. I thought all these ships were supposed to be part of the game. Something you can buy in the game with in game money once the game is live ?

    Is it still true ? If yes, why are people buying them for hundreds of dollars ??

    It's in game money to rent stuff, kind of a mini game for now, you have some sense pf progression.

     

    Yes all those ships will be ingame for ingame money, once the game launch. For now, you buy ship to help make the game nothing more. Those donation comes with ships, but it could as well be fluff only, but then I suspect that they wouldn't get as much money... anyway I am an old backer and bought only 1 package which would be about the price of the usual CE I usually buy for games I am into.

  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Originally posted by munsil42
    Originally posted by Wizardry
    Originally posted by munsil42
    Originally posted by fenrisblue
    $300 for a ship in a game that hasn't been released yet ? that sends up a few red flags for me, mind you i have dropped hundreds of dollars in mmos , but never just on one thing, and NEVER in a game that hasn't been released, i went on youtube to see what the reviews are like of course most of them have been by backers, so its really hard to get an idea of how it is really doing, and after all if something isnt working you can just say " well it is still in alpha" and that's about what DaGaimez says , and that was on february  27, i am sure this game is on the up and up, but i have been burned on one too many kick starter/greenlight/crowdfunded games to just jump right in just because someone that has payed 200 dollars(angryjoe)  told me to, the "frankenstein walking animation"(DaGaimez) is enough to give me great pause,and the subpar review for the Gladius($105) from BoredGamer a week ago really doesn't inspire me to want to go out and spend the cash, at least i can say that it doesnt seem to be pay to win,but that is only from the info i could dig up in a half hour,from backers, in conclusion, I have no solid information on this game ,and i am staying away from it till launch,actual launch, like when they say"the game is out of every alpha and beta"launch

    After all this ranting you end with, "I have no solid information on this game." Seriously?

    I have been a backer since the beginning with only spending $80 (not $300 like you are crying about). I got a ship, Alpha/Beta access, some credits, and whatever fluff stuff they gave me as well. It's been awesome watching the development of the game from the beginning till now. No regrets here...

    His references were to the KNOWLEDGE base which is cost of ships.not on the actual game which NOBODY has information on because there is no game,just some simple flying around and EVERYTHING can be changed by launch.So the only real hardcore knowledge is they are charging TOO MUCH for a ship in a game.

    I watched a streamer 3 days ago playing  Elite Dangerous,guess what he has a ship and can play and did not have to buy his ship.

    As to watching a game develop,we can  do that without spending any money,and of course have no regrets about not spending any money.

    To say you have no regrets before the game is even out,is just a blind statement,you don't say you have no  regrets until .AFTER you see what you got for your money,not before lol.That is like saying,i have no regrets buying this pizza that has not yet been delivered,then after you open the box,find out it is burnt and freak out.

    Seriously? I have never spent any amount of time to complain about something then just end I have no real information. How about just ask? God FORBID someone asks without complaining first about a game they know nothing about.

    How can you ask about a game that no one has any real information about? You have a module here and there but its all subject to change

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981
    Originally posted by Azoth
    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Why would anyone rent equipment for game that is still not out ?

    What you pay the money to fly a ship in small flight demo ?

     

     

    Another thing. I thought all these ships were supposed to be part of the game. Something you can buy in the game with in game money once the game is live ?

    Is it still true ? If yes, why are people buying them for hundreds of dollars ??

    It's in game money to rent stuff, kind of a mini game for now, you have some sense pf progression.

     

    Yes all those ships will be ingame for ingame money, once the game launch. For now, you buy ship to help make the game nothing more. Those donation comes with ships, but it could as well be fluff only, but then I suspect that they wouldn't get as much money... anyway I am an old backer and bought only 1 package which would be about the price of the usual CE I usually buy for games I am into.

    I am also original backer.

    So this is reasuring. I allready started to fear its " buy ships with real money game " now



  • ishistishist Member UncommonPosts: 213

    Ugh.

    Every damn time.

    To begin with, enough of the game is playable at this point that we know whether we are going to like it or not. So not having regrets is easy achievable. The game is certainly not finished, but there are several multiplayer modes and single player modes to play. There is already as much content as your average online FPS.

    I would write up a copy/paste list of common rebuttals against the same damn uninformed grievances that pop up here every damn time mmorpg.com posts an article about Star Citizen, but I should really just put up a link to the Star Citizen web site. It's not like we're in the dark.

    There is so much information about the game available that the only people who can say they don't know anything about it are the people who have never looked past the logo on the website front page. They have released insane amount of details. The only way you could get more information would be to fly to Santa Monica and stand in their office looking over the devs shoulder. Which is something that, incidentally, they have totally let people do.

    Right now Star Citizen is the stripper that's so hot people are flinging $100 bills at her and she's only taken off her hat. The only people bitching about it are the ones still standing outside who haven't paid the cover charge.

     

    In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329

    The game is still in development. Projected timeline for launch : end of 2016, beginning of 2017 (for the multiplayer Persistent Universe) . With parts being available end of 2015 (Squadron 42 solo campaign early missions),  and beginning of 2016 (Squadron 42 solo campaign mid story missions, PE Alpha).  Currently available modules: dogfight module Arena Commander. Within weeks: FPS module (in two variants ... Battle Arena a la Enders Game (=sports arena) ... Fight for Space Station (battlefield sim)) and Social Interaction Module (starting with the ArcCorp landing zone).  So ... for those asking "Why is the game not ready yet ?!??!" .. because we are currently at 50 % project timeline.

    You DO NOT have to buy any of the expensive pledge packages. Ships DO NOT cost 300 $ unless you want to support the project. EVERYTHING will be available in game for in game cash. NOTHING will exclusively be available for real world money ... thats one of the SC design principles.

    WHY do some people spend more than the basic 45 $ pledge package ? Because it is a crowdfunding project. Check out Kickstarter and its like. You will see various levels of pledge packages in almost all the game Kickstarter projects. SC is just the most successful (by far ... World Record of ALL crowdfunding projects worldwide, all genres).

    For all who want to get more information on the project ... start at the CIG website or the player run Star Citizen Wiki. I think this is the gaming project with the most in depth information to the community EVER. If people care to read/watch it.

     

    Have fun

     

  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502

    Haha, whenever Star Citizen comes up I picture the ardent defenders reading the comments and reacting like Kalo from Crank 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwxat571P5Y&t=0m28s

  • LeGrosGamerV2LeGrosGamerV2 Member Posts: 90
     I really want Angry Joe to review Star Citizen, 'cause he'll probably flip out.   The game has reach a level of stupidity never before seen in the MMO world. It makes TESO a God send.    The game ain't even out yet and it's talking about patches BUT with 300$ ships?   It's like anything you wanna do in this game you need to pay.  Want to dock?  Pay.  Want to shoot? Pay.  Want to pee? Pay.    *Spits* Pathetic.  
  • JonBonJawaJonBonJawa Member UncommonPosts: 489
    Originally posted by LeGrosGamerV2
     I really want Angry Joe to review Star Citizen, 'cause he'll probably flip out.   The game has reach a level of stupidity never before seen in the MMO world. It makes TESO a God send.    The game ain't even out yet and it's talking about patches BUT with 300$ ships?   It's like anything you wanna do in this game you need to pay.  Want to dock?  Pay.  Want to shoot? Pay.  Want to pee? Pay.    *Spits* Pathetic.  

    Do you really think Angry Joe is stupid? Pretty sure he has a grasp on the concept of crowdfunding where (hint) the *crowd* gives the budget to the developer team, not some Wall-Street suit, who's most interested in building a new swimming pool for his beach house.

    Besides the only pathetic thing is your epic hyperbole and strawman arguments which are either planned disinformation or just total ignorance of reality.

  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    Originally posted by Lobotomist

     Another thing. I thought all these ships were supposed to be part of the game. Something you can buy in the game with in game money once the game is live ?

    Is it still true ? If yes, why are people buying them for hundreds of dollars ??

    This still kinda beats the hell out of me. I suppose that a lot of these ships will sooner or later also appear in the cash shop for more than what they cost now. This kind of 'Pay2Win' is not what I'm looking for (I did buy a small ship and waiting for more to be released of the game). I much rather work my ass off in the game and really EARN that big-ass ship I want and feel a real accomplishment (unlike the feeling I'd get when waving my creditcard...)

  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,273
    I'm not normally like this (although I was with ESO as well), but I hope this game flops and does not live up to all the backers expectations. I have no real malice to the developers or the game itself, I just think the rage would be at an incredible level on the forums
  • dave6660dave6660 Member UncommonPosts: 2,699
    Originally posted by angerbeaver
    I'm not normally like this (although I was with ESO as well), but I hope this game flops and does not live up to all the backers expectations. I have no real malice to the developers or the game itself, I just think the rage would be at an incredible level on the forums

    There will be incredible amounts of nerd rage no matter what happens.  You can't please everybody.  Especially when fans have built up a game in their minds that cannot ever be realistically lived up to.

    “There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.”
    -- Herman Melville

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329

    >>>>>Just wait until she takes off the rest of her clothes and you notice her penis. The ones outside aren't trying to get in, they would have already if they didn't think something was wrong. At this point we are waiting outside to point and laugh when you run outside screaming.>>>>>

    Too bad that reality disagrees with you ;-)

    Approx. 2000 new backers PER DAY join Star Citizen (a steady influx for the last months). Plus an extra 40.000 new players that joined when the "play for free for a week" code came out after PAX East  (and i suspect a large number of those 40k also joined as backers).

    At present:  848.604 Star Citizens (=registered user accounts), 653.949 of those having at least one ship (=users with a crowdfunding pledge package, which always include a ship)

    Guess who is pointing and laughing .....

     

    Have fun

  • udonudon Member UncommonPosts: 1,803
    Originally posted by crysent
    This company loves it's money and doesn'seem to be having issues making it off the whales.

    I think this general trend of paying hundreds of dollars for in game items months and years before a game releases is very bothersome, and even though I have no right to tell people what to spend their money on, I hate seeing this type of stuff get reinforced by people willing to throw away hundreds of dollars.

    It just seems crazy that this game is just stacked with so many p2w options.

    I feel the same way.  I could care less if people want to spend money on this game so far in advanced of release except that it's going to set a trend for how games are developed and funded in the future which I do care about.  We are seeing the first of a whole new generation of development by community spending type of games with ongoing funding drives and cash shop's built into games from concept rather than launch.  Some may call that progress I see it more like the relationship between a junkie and his supplier.  Yea, nothing bad can come of that.

  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502
    I think it's worth pointing out that quantity is absolutely no indication of quality. That goes for number of backers, dollars raised or number of star systems. It's a completely meaningless statistic.
  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    Originally posted by Erillion

    >>>>>Just wait until she takes off the rest of her clothes and you notice her penis. The ones outside aren't trying to get in, they would have already if they didn't think something was wrong. At this point we are waiting outside to point and laugh when you run outside screaming.>>>>>

    Too bad that reality disagrees with you ;-)

    Approx. 2000 new backers PER DAY join Star Citizen (a steady influx for the last months). Plus an extra 40.000 new players that joined when the "play for free for a week" code came out after PAX East  (and i suspect a large number of those 40k also joined as backers).

    At present:  848.604 Star Citizens (=registered user accounts), 653.949 of those having at least one ship (=users with a crowdfunding pledge package, which always include a ship)

    Guess who is pointing and laughing .....

     

    Have fun

    Well, on one hand, it's impressive that an unreleased game is more popular than EVE - I'm actually curious to see what happens to EVE if Star Citizen is anywhere near what it's building itself up to be. Right now, this would be like a fantasy MMO having 18 million backers vs WoW. Interesting just to think about, not at all realistic though.

    But, no one is pointing and laughing yet, time will tell. And let's not kid ourselves in imaging a 100% retention rate. The bulk of Star Citizen backers are going to be displeased come launch. It's completely normal and not unique to Star Citizen. It's just going to be wild seeing that much rage. It's a very popularly backed game as of right now. I mean, look at the peanuts some of those other MMO's got funded with. 18k backers? Crowfall is more than funded but with only 14k backers.

    When a game like that comes out and the clueless people who thought that the game was going to be everything they wished for in their head is fully realized and they're disappointed we always get a couple weeks of rumpled feathers and people crying. What a game with almost 900k backers will bring, with many of them dumping hundreds/thousands into their dream, it will be epic one way or another.

  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    Originally posted by Lobotomist

    Why would anyone rent equipment for game that is still not out ?

     

    Can't blame devs as players are eager to throw money at them.

    If they are smart they will keep the game in this state for years. :P

     

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

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