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How is the community in this game?
Caldicot
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I have never tried FFXIV but I've been leaning towards it more and more lately. Is it easy to find groups and people to play with? How is the community in general?
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It's like most games, you have helpful players, you have bad eggs and then everything in between. The Reddit community is overall very positive and helpful. Most people in-game are pretty tolerant towards new players in the early level content but are less forgiving and sometimes downright trollish in some of the high level content. With that said, it's probably one of the better communities I've been a part of though.
There is a party matching system to group you with random players across multiple servers in your data center cluster and there's also one you can create local to your own server, so finding a group typically isn't a problem for things. Finding one that can clear some of the harder fights (Ex Primals and some of the Binding Coil turns) can be challenging at times though.
This ^^^^
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I have not played in a while but i figure it would be even tougher at this point.
The problem is that games are a constant push forward,soon nobody wants to do any old stuff.You will likely find it very tough to get a pug to do any of the early dungeons,geesh it was tough even 5 months ago.Your best option is a Linkshell and even then you will notice groups of players seem to stick together,they login at the same time,do an end game run then likely logout.You should however in a decent size LS find a couple players to help you out as some early dungeons are only 3 man runs.
I personally don't like that developers continue to make the same mistakes over and over,you would think they'd learn by now but nope.A game will NEVER be comfortable for new players when the design is to rush everyone beyond into new zones.
You can even look at the most populated rpg going "WOW" it's noob zones are as barren as a freeware game,so it is the same game design mistake in EVERY game.
Then guess what expansions do,no they don't add anything to old content,they make another new zone further pushing players away,i would fire all of these producers,they are bad at their jobs.
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I play on Moogle when I play it's the best European server imo. The problem is it's hard to get on there, it's locked most of the time.
It is a great server, i did play on it for a while, but, given its a mostly french server, or was when i left it at least, i chose Odin, which, also busy and occasional Queues, but at least i can understand people, the players on Moogle were very friendly even if i didn't understand a word of french, and with my perhaps atypical total inability to learn other languages ( i am a brit after all) it was probably more frustrating for them
Don't let these people above fool you. The community in this game is just as elitist and annoying as WoW's if you want to do the raids, and god forbid if you don't go break-neck speed in the instanced dungeons, unless you want to bring down the wrath of the teenage boy playing a Miqo'te.
The first time I ever had a shitty experience with an MMO's community was with this game. Was in a raid, we wiped ONCE, and the leader kicked out everyone from the raid, crying that we all sucked. Get ready to deal with that BS if you plan to.
If you generally keep to yourself and only speak with your guild? Yeah, good community. Talk to a random person or join a pug dungeon? You're gonna have a bad time.
Yes there are Ass holes in this game just like the next. I left my FC because one guy was an Ass hole telling me and my wife to go pug and stop asking for leveling content. Well guess what I started my own FC to find the players that want the same thing. A FC where we will raid in Heavensward AND we will do leveling content on other nights. The problem is people look at FC rank and Numbers too tell them if a FC is good. A Rank 8 FC with 300 Active members and never more than 15 to 20 members on does not mean you have a good FC..... People really need to look at the FC and the members before figuring out if an FC is good or not.
Don't let these people above fool you. The community in this game is just as elitist and annoying as WoW's if you want to do the raids, and god forbid if you don't go break-neck speed in the instanced dungeons, unless you want to bring down the wrath of the teenage boy playing a Miqo'te.
The first time I ever had a shitty experience with an MMO's community was with this game. Was in a raid, we wiped ONCE, and the leader kicked out everyone from the raid, crying that we all sucked. Get ready to deal with that BS if you plan to.
If you generally keep to yourself and only speak with your guild? Yeah, good community. Talk to a random person or join a pug dungeon? You're gonna have a bad time.
That's really unfortunate. Sorry to hear that. It would be a shame to judge an entire community on a bad experience. But that's your right. Hope you have a better experience with people in the future.
Who said this doesn't happen? Nobody here has implied the community is perfect.
The reason why old zones are dead is because today almost all FCs out there either A) have their Raiding core and recruit people just to have numbers and not care about them. Or
are no more than a Chat Room..... Thats why people do not get together and do the old content. It also does not help when a person like me who came back to FFXIV in Dec and re-rolled on Siren with my wife where most FCs dont care to help out new or returning players.
So what did I do. Yes I started my own FC for this reason. Yea I might have limited time however that does not mean I cannot be friends with people in game (god only knows how many friends I made from other MMOs that I still talk to, to this day) and set some time aside to run leveling content with my FC members or friends. Now I cannot say I can do it today or tomorrow. However I am sure I can work a little bit of time in sometime in the next week unless I am going on vacation. If people are willing to wait for that instance they need I for sure will help when time allows.
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You must be reading a different thread because no one has implied that these servers are perfect. So keep crying into your keyboard mr angry lol.
In fact, most games are like that in my experience. Show a little maturity and that community tends to open up to you. Come off as immature and you'll open yourself to that community.
Outside Free Companies? Non existent in my experience so far.
Once in a Free Company? Excellent.
Finding groups is really easy in general though, due to the cross server duty finder, just don't expect to form any deeper connection than 'let's get this shit done'.
Not crying, merely stating fact. And yes, I read the thread. Nearly every post above me was pushing the opinion that the game has a good community, and that's simply not true. It's like every MMO's community, good and bad.
Go back to your fanboy box, kid.
Instantly calling someone a kid (or responding to a negative post in a negative way when there is not a large amount of text to consider) leads me to believe that you're an enigma yourself. Indeed, I'm finding it -very- likely that you got into arguments with someone considering your attitude. Bad company invites misery, as they say.
That said, the community as a whole right now is pretty great. There were hiccups along the way at the start with regards to the first two 8 man dungeons, but now that people severely outgear them -- and systems put into place to promote good behavior -- people don't mind going into boss fights with half the party watching a movie. Add to that player commendations and the game telling you when someone is new -- and providing a bonus for others to stay -- and you (most of the time) get people who greet new people and thank them for the extra bonus they provided (usually in the league of 100+ additional tomes).
"Thank you, new players!"
"You're the real MVP, new players!"
These are some quotes I have seen. I have not raided in a couple weeks, but when I was gearing several alts (probably a couple hundred raids overall), the vast, vast majority of them had people like this.
On the other side of the coin, about two months ago my friend got into a party with a impolite tank. This was very memorable to her and I simply because it was such a rare occurrence to us. That said, you won't see anyone legitimately saying it's "perfect", but it is, in my opinion, above average.
If you follow the twitch trio of ItmeJP, Strippin and Dodger (or the co-optional podcast), you will also note them saying that they were ridiculously surprised at how nice the community has been. People just coming into their channels and saying they're glad they enjoy the game and hope they continue to have fun. Similar experiences in game as well.
I've not run into elitism myself -- even though I was a part of that scene back in 1.0 -- but I'm sure it exists. This is mainly because I don't bother with Coils anymore, I'd wager. That, and it's been so long and you can spam WoD for ilvl 130 gear like it's candy now.
It's always up to the individual. Though there are systems in place to encourage good behavior, which is a step above what most games do at the moment.
I would say the community itself is quite positive. People are very forgiving and its actually rare to have massive ass hats in your group. It is easy to get involved in the game and find helpful people.
It is pretty much to the point I'm pretty sure I'm that 'elitist jerk' within the community being how I am (not afraid to tell you that you suck or point out you are wasting people's time, even though I do give people a chance and help them out. I'm just a jerk like that and get very blunt. XD ). It might even be to the point I think it can be too nice at times.
Never once had a bad experience with PUGs in FF XIV. Even when I would start an instance with "Hi, Im your tank. Im new. Tell me how this goes". But YMMV.
Part from the rampant rage quitting in PUGs and the elitist perfect rotation max DPS bullshit in end game the community is pretty mature and good.
But you can always duty finder dungeons or grind hunts to cap your tokens in a couple hours then play something else the rest of the week.
Your community will be the FC you choose, other than that no one talks to each other, no one does anything together other than grind fates and pug required dungeons for main story lines. I have done multiple leveling dungeons through the duty finder where we went th entire dungeon without one conversation. It is always a speed run because you are probably the only dude there for the first time lol, the other guys are leveling alts.
Lack of a community does not make for a goods community. Just because I don't have people constantly trolling GC does not mean it is a "good" community.