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I am no troll...matter fact I barely post here, but old school gaming...sucks.
nomatics856
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After playing Ragefire EQ 1 progression server it made me realize this kind of gaming, is dead and dated now.For one, no one has the mind set of the past im sure a few gamers do but every one is rushing to server first, playing easy solo classes, hardly any one wants to group, when you do group no one is social, no one wants to talk, no one wants to build communities, no one wants to take it slow...
A majority on this server want to box and take down bosses and level asap. Though its not their fault, its just how gaming has now become, even I who rooted for old school gaming, am now seeing how this type of mmorpg is not really fun any more. In the past I had no job, really no life, I was in high school just hung out with friends and played video games, didnt need a scheduel or family to worry about, etc. I could stay in my room for hours on end going on adventures, meeting other people and have great convos.
Well those people who were basement dwellers, staying in their room, living off their moms, now find themselves well some of them...find themselves with jobs, time management, families, lives etc..so not needing to depend on forming a group, waiting for others to level etc is a good thing for a lot of us, thats why almost 99% of the players on ragefire are mages or casters because its easy to level, no needing to depend on a group, and its fast.
A mmorpg like old school EQ will not be what people think it will be. Embrace twitch gaming, gaming where time management is viable etc. Its just the way of the future.
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That's not old school. It's a cheesy attempt. You want old school? Go play Project 99
Really the problem isn't EQ or old games, or even old gamers. The problem is that you went on a progression server which, for better or worse, tend to attract "achievers" and elitists.
By comparison, Daybreak games recently came to an agreement with Project 1999, in which P99 agreed to hold off releasing Velious until August, for which they get Daybreak's permission to legally run a classic server as a non profit. Now, I can vouch for the p99 server and it's community and I would recommend you try it if you want a true old school EQ experience.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
As absurd as the "MMO's are not MMO's anymore!" or the equally idiotic "MMO gaming sucks now!"
I agree it should be closed and redirected to one of those threads.
On top of that, there is already a discussion along the same lines about the subject.
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Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
It is exactly what many people think what it is ... boring big grind, less like a game, more like a chore.
I don't like the old school. I don't like the new school. I want out of school and into Florida Spring Break. Dragon breeding with genetics. Dark Arisen graphics. Someone solve the lag issue once and FOR ALL so we can make a real mmo.
LOL..I almost stopped reading at the title then stopped after the first paragraph. You're sentiments are about 5-7 yrs old. Gaming is moving on...
Still waiting for an MMO that really captures the spirit of Ultima Online - Renaissance.
They did so, so, so many things right following the Trammel/Felucca split.
Old school games had depth, mechanics to keep you playing and finding new things. Games these days are simply catering to the medicated generation , dumbed down so you dont feel any failure and get all huffy and quit.
Face it kids, old school games were made for men, while most new school games are made for little boys that have no attention span or determination to succeed.
Though I can't agree with your demeaning tone, and I certainly started playing MMOs back when I was just a boy (1999) -
I heard recently that the average attention span for a person in America is now less than that of a gold fish.
Something like 7 seconds.
A seven second attention span. Ridiculous!
No wonder MMO design has gone the way it has - the average player needs something to stimulate them every 5 seconds!
I'm not old school, but I even I can see the obvious, and your post confirms as much. It's not the old school games that suck, it's the new school players playing them that make them suck.
You could argue that most of playing an old school MMO is a waste of time. I guess that it's not a waste if you are having fun, but you are generally just repeating the same things over and over again. Even today's fast MMOs just repeat the same small amount of things, but certain elements are switched up a bit. Sometimes you start to feel like a mouse on a wheel following the cheese. You aren't really learning anything new, but you are content to repeat the same thing over and over again. I think there is too much knowledge out there for this type of MMO to exist anymore. I had a lot of fun playing games like UO and EQ, but that was a time where knowledge wasn't really cherished. It was more a time of just having fun without a care in the world. The world has changed a lot due to competition and vast amounts of people being more educated. I don't know which way is better, but it's generally good to have more knowledge and spend more time gaining it. Perfecting the small amount of game mechanics in an MMO will likely help you in some way, but after a certain point of repetition it will no longer do anything for you. There is also the influx of entertainment in this day and age to consider (at least if you live in America). There is so much entertainment that there is no reason to repeat the same thing over and over again. When I was a kid I watched Star Wars and Indiana Jones hundreds of times. That would be unthinkable in this day and age.
Subjective.
OP just doesn't know how to appreciate the classics.
Among other folks on these boards who just don't appreciate how far video gaming has come.
Generation blame game, and folks who think they represent everyone from one generation to another.
What about those trolls who shit on new MMOs and sing the praises of old school games and always finish it off ny saying that new games are for kids or the simpleminded? Are those people not trolls too?
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
I normally loathe the whole "old school vs new" argument but i'll keep it simple.
In my opinion, there's a lot of unrest because of the way games have changed. We got all the changes we wanted in newer games such as convenience ala Group Finders, fast-travel, etc. What nobody ever considered was how the core gameplay would change around said upgrades.
I wish we could have the best of both worlds, but as of right now, there's nothing that offers it. Maybe one day something revolutionary will come along and blow us all away but until then we have what we have, and the older games are still out there (for the most part) if you really need to go back and see things from a pre-WoW perspective.
This whole topic gets a giant shoulder shrug from me.
I just hate linear quest hub themeparks. Being forcing to quest down a linear path and told what to do, at every step, by NPCs sucks. I think people are more rebelling against this than they are saying EQ in 1999 was perfect.
OP, I'm confused by your argument. So you aren't really blaming EQ in 1999, you are blaming yourself (for having no free time) and other gamers because they are less patient than they used to be. You should probably change the title of this thread to better reflect your post.
Of course it is subject.
I will first to admit i do not know how to appreciate slow traveling, down-time, corpse run, camping, and all those very tedious and boring activity to me.
But i don't have to ... it is a free market. I don't have to play any game that i feel is not fun. If you do, it is fine. Please enjoy waiting in line camping.
My wife loves romance novels and I don't ... so i totally understand how people can like totally different entertainment. (And i am sure she rolls her eyes every time i mentioned the Avengers).
Well, he definitely isn't a troll.
People use the word troll for everything these days. *bleh*
I miss the troll. They were clever. Usually smarter than most people. A good troll would come this forum, find a juicy thread and then post a response telling everyone how stupid their ideas are (trap), making sure to include a few spelling errors in their post (bait).
Then just sit back and watch the dumb animals flock to the trap, because forum posters just can't let a spelling error go without commentary.
Like taking candy from a baby.