Sorry, Just can't buy off on this. Its the same old trick over and over with this group. Amazing trailer, marketing massive game changes and its just another skin on the same old tired graphics engine. More story.. more of the same.. Change the skills again for the 3rd time, more balance. I wish I could take Star Trek online and SWTOR and combine them some how with the best of both worlds. Love the bridge officer game in STO and how they did ships overall. I enjoy PVP in SWTOR though much better (at least the ground PVP) neither to me has great ship PVP. I miss Jump To light speed and the crafting and housing from SWG.. I love Starwars but I just can't buy into this game.. it feels like a marketing scam to me. I really get ticked when they hype the new race to play.. hey this coming patch you can be a Monkey or no maybe take page from WOW and you can be Panda in space... yah that should get us some more subs... Gollum sums it up for me.
The best news for long years. :-) And I love they will continue story telling which is only complain I had about previous expansion packs. If there is only 1 game in the world I would subscribe no matter the price, it is Swtor. And it is only game where I have been subbed constantly maybe half year to one year after I stopped to play original game just as support to Bioware. I was not very happy with previous expansions but still they were the best market is offering. I'm just sorry with WOD Wow has lost a lot of appeal to me. Still, currently 2nd best game to me.
Continuation of the main story? Woah! This thing will get me back for sure. But the timing is crap! October 27th for non-subs and Fallout 4 is in November... Won't have much time to play. At least they've finally got what gets non-fanboys to play SWTOR, the story!
The whole thing that gets people into this game... apart from the SW hardcore base who just follow the IP, is the "KOTOR" story line factor, unique to mmo play ... if you want the "my Character is the hero" experience it's a great game to play. (If you want the "my character is a regular citizen" experience might I suggest eve)
If they do it well they will have the cash flow
G'luck to them
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Sorry, Just can't buy off on this. Its the same old trick over and over with this group. Amazing trailer, marketing massive game changes and its just another skin on the same old tired graphics engine. More story.. more of the same.. Change the skills again for the 3rd time, more balance. I wish I could take Star Trek online and SWTOR and combine them some how with the best of both worlds. Love the bridge officer game in STO and how they did ships overall. I enjoy PVP in SWTOR though much better (at least the ground PVP) neither to me has great ship PVP. I miss Jump To light speed and the crafting and housing from SWG.. I love Starwars but I just can't buy into this game.. it feels like a marketing scam to me. I really get ticked when they hype the new race to play.. hey this coming patch you can be a Monkey or no maybe take page from WOW and you can be Panda in space... yah that should get us some more subs... Gollum sums it up for me.
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
Continuation of the main story? Woah! This thing will get me back for sure. But the timing is crap! October 27th for non-subs and Fallout 4 is in November... Won't have much time to play. At least they've finally got what gets non-fanboys to play SWTOR, the story!
Cheers.
There is no continuation of main story...just a generic story everyone will be playing through....oh and insta lvl 60 are being sold now, by passing the main selling point of this game (why?).....
Sorry, Just can't buy off on this. Its the same old trick over and over with this group. Amazing trailer, marketing massive game changes and its just another skin on the same old tired graphics engine. More story.. more of the same.. Change the skills again for the 3rd time, more balance. I wish I could take Star Trek online and SWTOR and combine them some how with the best of both worlds. Love the bridge officer game in STO and how they did ships overall. I enjoy PVP in SWTOR though much better (at least the ground PVP) neither to me has great ship PVP. I miss Jump To light speed and the crafting and housing from SWG.. I love Starwars but I just can't buy into this game.. it feels like a marketing scam to me. I really get ticked when they hype the new race to play.. hey this coming patch you can be a Monkey or no maybe take page from WOW and you can be Panda in space... yah that should get us some more subs... Gollum sums it up for me.
Well to be honest SWTOR is alot better then WoW for atlest here everyone know that try to make money by sell thing in game store but in WoW you HAVE to pay a sub fee to play game and the also have in game store to earn more money but if dont want to play no one if force you
So basically this is SWTOR real 1st expansion the are go to be like 16 chapters if you look at the web page that is more thenRise of the Hutt Carteland Shadow of Revan put together it i think it will be fun to see story in Knights of the Fallen Empire for to me a good mmo should have a good story line that is very import to me.
i was expecting to play GW2 Expansion or FF14 Expansion this year but fate is leading me to SWTOR's expansion it seems. i am sure it's gonna be fun as long as you know what to expect and i expect a good story hopefully.
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
It is all about story telling dude... I play SWTOR for the story telling. surely not for the grapfics (heck I wish they had mor atmospheric graphics (for world and space combat). And yes the crafting is crap to. But still I love to play this game no other online gmae besides LOTRO & EVE has captured me playing it since beta. And the trailers, damn they should make a 90 min animation movie, I would even pay for that. You watch the movie you jump right into the Story to play your part... I love story telling games.
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
I just subscribe when I want to play.
Unfortunately, a disincentive to play while not subscribed translates for many into a disincentive to subscribe. If a game is downright irritating to play (and put money into) while f2p, why would someone WANT to subscribe?
Honestly, this game has one of the worst pay models I've ever seen.
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
I just subscribe when I want to play.
Unfortunately, a disincentive to play while not subscribed translates for many into a disincentive to subscribe. If a game is downright irritating to play (and put money into) while f2p, why would someone WANT to subscribe?
Honestly, this game has one of the worst pay models I've ever seen.
One of the worst non-sub models? Absolutely
I get the feeling that they've never really embraced the ftp model. As it's a pariah that irks them everytime it's mentioned.
ftp model: something as simple as hide hear gear - no can do. Come on guys, that's just petty.
OK, everyone get's the message that you desperately didn't want to be forced into a ftp model - but you're not the only ones in this situation, and other game companies have dealt with this a whole lot better.
It's not about playing everything for free, it's about having a ftp model which is comparable with the other "main" games in this sector. Rift,ESO, Tera, SW... and soon to be Wildstar.
So a down vote on the ftp model here - but there does appear to be some light on the horizon with the game's new previewed storyline. That may tempt more people to resub.
I'm left with the feeling that if they relaxed their ftp model a bit, it would actually persuade more people to progress further into the game - and consequently a bigger hook for them to subscribe.
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
I just subscribe when I want to play.
Unfortunately, a disincentive to play while not subscribed translates for many into a disincentive to subscribe. If a game is downright irritating to play (and put money into) while f2p, why would someone WANT to subscribe?
Honestly, this game has one of the worst pay models I've ever seen.
One of the worst non-sub models? Absolutely
I get the feeling that they've never really embraced the ftp model. As it's a pariah that irks them everytime it's mentioned.
ftp model: something as simple as hide hear gear - no can do. Come on guys, that's just petty.
OK, everyone get's the message that you desperately didn't want to be forced into a ftp model - but you're not the only ones in this situation, and other game companies have dealt with this a whole lot better.
It's not about playing everything for free, it's about having a ftp model which is comparable with the other "main" games in this sector. Rift,ESO, Tera, SW... and soon to be Wildstar.
So a down vote on the ftp model here - but there does appear to be some light on the horizon with the game's new previewed storyline. That may tempt more people to resub.
I'm left with the feeling that if they relaxed their ftp model a bit, it would actually persuade more people to progress further into the game - and consequently a bigger hook for them to subscribe.
Hard to say whether it would get them more subs or not. I originally thought their F2P was going to be a disaster, but they've managed to make some pretty good profits with it. So their business people apparently know what they're doing.
Also, ESO isn't free to play. It's buy to play, which means you either make an initial investment or you don't get to play it at all. Not sure what the "SW" stands for, but if it's the Secret World... then once again, not F2P, but B2P.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
I just subscribe when I want to play.
Unfortunately, a disincentive to play while not subscribed translates for many into a disincentive to subscribe. If a game is downright irritating to play (and put money into) while f2p, why would someone WANT to subscribe?
Honestly, this game has one of the worst pay models I've ever seen.
One of the worst non-sub models? Absolutely
I get the feeling that they've never really embraced the ftp model. As it's a pariah that irks them everytime it's mentioned.
ftp model: something as simple as hide hear gear - no can do. Come on guys, that's just petty.
OK, everyone get's the message that you desperately didn't want to be forced into a ftp model - but you're not the only ones in this situation, and other game companies have dealt with this a whole lot better.
It's not about playing everything for free, it's about having a ftp model which is comparable with the other "main" games in this sector. Rift,ESO, Tera, SW... and soon to be Wildstar.
So a down vote on the ftp model here - but there does appear to be some light on the horizon with the game's new previewed storyline. That may tempt more people to resub.
I'm left with the feeling that if they relaxed their ftp model a bit, it would actually persuade more people to progress further into the game - and consequently a bigger hook for them to subscribe.
Hard to say whether it would get them more subs or not. I originally thought their F2P was going to be a disaster, but they've managed to make some pretty good profits with it. So their business people apparently know what they're doing.
Also, ESO isn't free to play. It's buy to play, which means you either make an initial investment or you don't get to play it at all. Not sure what the "SW" stands for, but if it's the Secret World... then once again, not F2P, but B2P.
They've only made profit because:
1) It's the only Star Wars themed MMO (though you could go play the SWG Emu )
2) They've locked so much of the game (seriously ACTION BARS?!) into the subscription. That you basically [i]need[/i] to pay if you want to play.
I wouldn't mind giving it another go. I even bought the current (or what ever the first expansion was that cost money). Thinking I'd maybe give it a try down the road. But I really can't get behind a game that actively forces me to subscribe or it'll "punish me".
*I don't give a rat's ass about the story (I could read the books and what not). But when my gameplay is directly impacted (I used Action Bar #3 for most of my Cooldowns). Then to hell with your game.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
2) They've locked so much of the game (seriously ACTION BARS?!) into the subscription. That you basically [i]need[/i] to pay if you want to play.
I wouldn't mind giving it another go. I even bought the current (or what ever the first expansion was that cost money). Thinking I'd maybe give it a try down the road. But I really can't get behind a game that actively forces me to subscribe or it'll "punish me".
*I don't give a rat's ass about the story (I could read the books and what not). But when my gameplay is directly impacted (I used Action Bar #3 for most of my Cooldowns). Then to hell with your game.
Why not simply unlock the action bars permanently with the coins you got from subbing? (Or buy them with credits on the GTN while you're still a sub)
You can easily get rid of all but a few the restrictions if you intend to play the game as a "B2P title". The only ones you can't get rid of if I'm not mistaken are the credit cap, and the inability to queue multi crafting items.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
"Gameplay wise, BioWare promises lots more info to come on all the new class skills, but the main goal of the new powers is to increase the mobility and action of each class as they want the pace of combat to increase overall with KotFE"
FINALLY!!!! maybe jedis and sith will be able to move like they are forceusers :P
maybe bountyhunters will have a REAL jetpack (greetings to boba fett) and not just some minor jump packs
SWTOR has a laundry list of problems I would like to see fixed. Those things are near the top.
I doubt we'll be getting anything that resembles Star Wars movie/action combat. It would be cool if we did but they'll probably just turn some of the rooted cast abilities into non-rooted cast abilities making classes more mobile in general. While SWTOR's combat holds up to MMO standards, I dont think it'll ever meet the standards of the Star Wars movies, shows or books.
Swtor sub model appears to constantly confuse people. It isn't about what you want or how other games do it. Bioware firmly wants this game to still be a sub model. F2P restrictions are currently in place to protect those who sub and to maintain the value of the subscription. They give you enough access to do story and what is required for solo progression.
If you want full access don't whine about it, you know what option offers full access. You simply sub. Until the business model changes it is pointless to complain. Swtor is a hybrid f2p model WITH sub. It is therefore still a subscription game. Stop ignoring this fact.
Swtor sub model appears to constantly confuse people. It isn't about what you want or how other games do it. Bioware firmly wants this game to still be a sub model. F2P restrictions are currently in place to protect those who sub and to maintain the value of the subscription. They give you enough access to do story and what is required for solo progression.
If you want full access don't whine about it, you know what option offers full access. You simply sub. Until the business model changes it is pointless to complain. Swtor is a hybrid f2p model WITH sub. It is therefore still a subscription game. Stop ignoring this fact.
It's a point of view, and I can respect different people's thoughts on this.
The issue I can see with this sub/ftp is market competition. There are several other fairly big mmos that have retained a sub option when introducing ftp models.
And it's here that swtor disadvantages itself when people look around for available non-sub games.
Now every company going down this route has to balance subscription value against ftp attraction.
Don't forget, swtor tried existing on a sub only model - and failed. Ergo - they need income from the non-sub player base to make up for the lack of revenue from subscriptions.
It's just how they have set up this ftp model that compares poorly with the competition. They need the ftp income - yet they seem to have a punish punish punish approach to these players that are after all supporting their failed subscription only model.
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
I just subscribe when I want to play.
Unfortunately, a disincentive to play while not subscribed translates for many into a disincentive to subscribe. If a game is downright irritating to play (and put money into) while f2p, why would someone WANT to subscribe?
Honestly, this game has one of the worst pay models I've ever seen.
One of the worst non-sub models? Absolutely
I get the feeling that they've never really embraced the ftp model. As it's a pariah that irks them everytime it's mentioned.
ftp model: something as simple as hide hear gear - no can do. Come on guys, that's just petty.
OK, everyone get's the message that you desperately didn't want to be forced into a ftp model - but you're not the only ones in this situation, and other game companies have dealt with this a whole lot better.
It's not about playing everything for free, it's about having a ftp model which is comparable with the other "main" games in this sector. Rift,ESO, Tera, SW... and soon to be Wildstar.
So a down vote on the ftp model here - but there does appear to be some light on the horizon with the game's new previewed storyline. That may tempt more people to resub.
I'm left with the feeling that if they relaxed their ftp model a bit, it would actually persuade more people to progress further into the game - and consequently a bigger hook for them to subscribe.
Hard to say whether it would get them more subs or not. I originally thought their F2P was going to be a disaster, but they've managed to make some pretty good profits with it. So their business people apparently know what they're doing.
Also, ESO isn't free to play. It's buy to play, which means you either make an initial investment or you don't get to play it at all. Not sure what the "SW" stands for, but if it's the Secret World... then once again, not F2P, but B2P.
They've only made profit because:
1) It's the only Star Wars themed MMO (though you could go play the SWG Emu )
2) They've locked so much of the game (seriously ACTION BARS?!) into the subscription. That you basically [i]need[/i] to pay if you want to play.
I wouldn't mind giving it another go. I even bought the current (or what ever the first expansion was that cost money). Thinking I'd maybe give it a try down the road. But I really can't get behind a game that actively forces me to subscribe or it'll "punish me".
*I don't give a rat's ass about the story (I could read the books and what not). But when my gameplay is directly impacted (I used Action Bar #3 for most of my Cooldowns). Then to hell with your game.
Before you start raging, keep this in mind:
The most advanced class in the game(Sentinel / Marauder) has maybe 25 slots needed for abilities, consumables etc. Average is somewhere around 16 or so. So...
Why rage because you won't have 50+ slots which you won't fully use anyhow? It's just...
Simple, EA is the only company I know of that has done this. All other's place restrictions on content (which by proxy restricts gear).
This is exactly like 'on disc DLC'. The entire UI is on the disk / Install EXE. But it's locked away until I pay extra. That monthly sub is suppose to go to accessing the Server; not accessing game settings.
And, looking at an old screenshot of my lvl 29 Guardian. Action Slot: 6, 7, 8, Bottom Bar #4, Bottom Bar #7, Right Vertical Bar #1,2,3,4,7,9
*Bottom Bar refers to the action slots that go below the "1,2,3" bar
Those are the only slots that are empty. Everything else has either a Stance, Attack, CD, CC Breaker, Recall, "Mount", or Consumable in it
Tamanous, lol, pointless to complain until it changes...That's how things change, people complain.
If you don't complain about THIS, it'll get worse. I guarantee you the next step is to lock away Graphic Settings, and probably Playing Time.
A few months ago, I went to see a movie at the local theater and it cost me nearly 20 bucks for 2.5 hrs. of entertainment. My son and I talked about it and both agreed we get more entertainment value out of the several MMOs that we play than any movie we have seen in ages. I purchased SWOTOR before it came out, so don't have an idea how much is locked out for folks that have never paid for the game. I don't sub every month, but like now I am subbed because I felt like playing again for a few months. I've never liked the F2P model and never will, but the game companies have to make a buck somewhere so I understand locking some features out unless you pay to unlock them (especially chat, because of gold farmers) what I've found with SWTOR is that I can sub for a few months and use the Free stipend to open up some of the stuff that's locked, and then when I'm unrubbed it doesn't hurt so much. Win for the Devs win for me.
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Sorry, Just can't buy off on this. Its the same old trick over and over with this group. Amazing trailer, marketing massive game changes and its just another skin on the same old tired graphics engine. More story.. more of the same.. Change the skills again for the 3rd time, more balance. I wish I could take Star Trek online and SWTOR and combine them some how with the best of both worlds. Love the bridge officer game in STO and how they did ships overall. I enjoy PVP in SWTOR though much better (at least the ground PVP) neither to me has great ship PVP. I miss Jump To light speed and the crafting and housing from SWG.. I love Starwars but I just can't buy into this game.. it feels like a marketing scam to me. I really get ticked when they hype the new race to play.. hey this coming patch you can be a Monkey or no maybe take page from WOW and you can be Panda in space... yah that should get us some more subs... Gollum sums it up for me.
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2207524/saving-private-ryan-helmet-o.gif
just like assassins creed great trailers crap games!
maybe you develoers should spend less money on marketing and create great games and word of mouth will sell your games.
no but its all about get the investors money back in a view months,screw the consumer deal with the crap we feed you.
Continuation of the main story? Woah! This thing will get me back for sure. But the timing is crap! October 27th for non-subs and Fallout 4 is in November... Won't have much time to play. At least they've finally got what gets non-fanboys to play SWTOR, the story!
Cheers.
If they do it well they will have the cash flow
G'luck to them
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Dwight D Eisenhower
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Agreed.
HI all,
if you guys want to try the game out and here is my referral link, that will grand you 7 days free subscription.
I am already lvl 54 12x boost on class/story quests if you are subbed, gogo guys spam that referral link. You will not regret it!
May the force be with you!!
HI all,
if you guys want to try the game out and here is my referral link, that will grand you 7 days free subscription.
I am already lvl 54 12x boost on class/story quests if you are subbed, gogo guys spam that referral link. You will not regret it!
May the force be with you!!
Amazing how people worship this shill of a game....
Seriously? I have to PAY to get access to the full functionality of the UI?! What's next. Pay to get access to 'better graphic settings' or 'music being on'?
I'll probably get the "oh, it's only EA's doing". WHY DO YOU THINK EA DID THIS?! -- Because you let them.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
I just subscribe when I want to play.
There is no continuation of main story...just a generic story everyone will be playing through....oh and insta lvl 60 are being sold now, by passing the main selling point of this game (why?).....
Well to be honest SWTOR is alot better then WoW for atlest here everyone know that try to make money by sell thing in game store but in WoW you HAVE to pay a sub fee to play game and the also have in game store to earn more money but if dont want to play no one if force you
So basically this is SWTOR real 1st expansion the are go to be like 16 chapters if you look at the web page that is more then Rise of the Hutt Cartel and Shadow of Revan put together it i think it will be fun to see story in Knights of the Fallen Empire for to me a good mmo should have a good story line that is very import to me.
my top MMOs: UO,DAOC,WoW,GW2
most of my posts are just my opinions they are not facts,it is the same for you too.
Unfortunately, a disincentive to play while not subscribed translates for many into a disincentive to subscribe. If a game is downright irritating to play (and put money into) while f2p, why would someone WANT to subscribe?
Honestly, this game has one of the worst pay models I've ever seen.
One of the worst non-sub models? Absolutely
I get the feeling that they've never really embraced the ftp model. As it's a pariah that irks them everytime it's mentioned.
ftp model: something as simple as hide hear gear - no can do. Come on guys, that's just petty.
OK, everyone get's the message that you desperately didn't want to be forced into a ftp model - but you're not the only ones in this situation, and other game companies have dealt with this a whole lot better.
It's not about playing everything for free, it's about having a ftp model which is comparable with the other "main" games in this sector. Rift,ESO, Tera, SW... and soon to be Wildstar.
So a down vote on the ftp model here - but there does appear to be some light on the horizon with the game's new previewed storyline. That may tempt more people to resub.
I'm left with the feeling that if they relaxed their ftp model a bit, it would actually persuade more people to progress further into the game - and consequently a bigger hook for them to subscribe.
Hard to say whether it would get them more subs or not. I originally thought their F2P was going to be a disaster, but they've managed to make some pretty good profits with it. So their business people apparently know what they're doing.
Also, ESO isn't free to play. It's buy to play, which means you either make an initial investment or you don't get to play it at all. Not sure what the "SW" stands for, but if it's the Secret World... then once again, not F2P, but B2P.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
They've only made profit because:
1) It's the only Star Wars themed MMO (though you could go play the SWG Emu
)
2) They've locked so much of the game (seriously ACTION BARS?!) into the subscription. That you basically [i]need[/i] to pay if you want to play.
I wouldn't mind giving it another go. I even bought the current (or what ever the first expansion was that cost money). Thinking I'd maybe give it a try down the road. But I really can't get behind a game that actively forces me to subscribe or it'll "punish me".
*I don't give a rat's ass about the story (I could read the books and what not). But when my gameplay is directly impacted (I used Action Bar #3 for most of my Cooldowns). Then to hell with your game.
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
Why not simply unlock the action bars permanently with the coins you got from subbing? (Or buy them with credits on the GTN while you're still a sub)
You can easily get rid of all but a few the restrictions if you intend to play the game as a "B2P title". The only ones you can't get rid of if I'm not mistaken are the credit cap, and the inability to queue multi crafting items.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
I doubt we'll be getting anything that resembles Star Wars movie/action combat. It would be cool if we did but they'll probably just turn some of the rooted cast abilities into non-rooted cast abilities making classes more mobile in general. While SWTOR's combat holds up to MMO standards, I dont think it'll ever meet the standards of the Star Wars movies, shows or books.
Swtor sub model appears to constantly confuse people. It isn't about what you want or how other games do it. Bioware firmly wants this game to still be a sub model. F2P restrictions are currently in place to protect those who sub and to maintain the value of the subscription. They give you enough access to do story and what is required for solo progression.
If you want full access don't whine about it, you know what option offers full access. You simply sub. Until the business model changes it is pointless to complain. Swtor is a hybrid f2p model WITH sub. It is therefore still a subscription game. Stop ignoring this fact.
You stay sassy!
It's a point of view, and I can respect different people's thoughts on this.
The issue I can see with this sub/ftp is market competition. There are several other fairly big mmos that have retained a sub option when introducing ftp models.
And it's here that swtor disadvantages itself when people look around for available non-sub games.
Now every company going down this route has to balance subscription value against ftp attraction.
Don't forget, swtor tried existing on a sub only model - and failed. Ergo - they need income from the non-sub player base to make up for the lack of revenue from subscriptions.
It's just how they have set up this ftp model that compares poorly with the competition. They need the ftp income - yet they seem to have a punish punish punish approach to these players that are after all supporting their failed subscription only model.
Simple, EA is the only company I know of that has done this. All other's place restrictions on content (which by proxy restricts gear).
This is exactly like 'on disc DLC'. The entire UI is on the disk / Install EXE. But it's locked away until I pay extra. That monthly sub is suppose to go to accessing the Server; not accessing game settings.
And, looking at an old screenshot of my lvl 29 Guardian. Action Slot: 6, 7, 8, Bottom Bar #4, Bottom Bar #7, Right Vertical Bar #1,2,3,4,7,9
*Bottom Bar refers to the action slots that go below the "1,2,3" bar
Those are the only slots that are empty. Everything else has either a Stance, Attack, CD, CC Breaker, Recall, "Mount", or Consumable in it
Tamanous , lol, pointless to complain until it changes...That's how things change, people complain.
If you don't complain about THIS, it'll get worse. I guarantee you the next step is to lock away Graphic Settings, and probably Playing Time.
This perfectly illustrates what will happen: http://www.dorkly.com/post/65536/how-every-awful-video-game-thing-was-born
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising everytime we fall.
A few months ago, I went to see a movie at the local theater and it cost me nearly 20 bucks for 2.5 hrs. of entertainment. My son and I talked about it and both agreed we get more entertainment value out of the several MMOs that we play than any movie we have seen in ages. I purchased SWOTOR before it came out, so don't have an idea how much is locked out for folks that have never paid for the game. I don't sub every month, but like now I am subbed because I felt like playing again for a few months. I've never liked the F2P model and never will, but the game companies have to make a buck somewhere so I understand locking some features out unless you pay to unlock them (especially chat, because of gold farmers) what I've found with SWTOR is that I can sub for a few months and use the Free stipend to open up some of the stuff that's locked, and then when I'm unrubbed it doesn't hurt so much. Win for the Devs win for me.
Morblade