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Guild Wars 2: Transgender Character Now in Lion's Arch

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  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    Originally posted by Dakeru

    Hmm lol I didn't take this npc too serious - I mean it will not change anything and is probably just some awareness pointer made by Anet.

    Having said so I am surprised to see so many hateful posts along the lines of:

     

    "If we do this then kids will start to think this is normal - it's not:, gays and transgenders are abnormal!"

    "I will quit the game over this."

    "This is wrong and I have the balls to say it."

     

    I wonder in what kind of isolated part of the world you live to feel this way.

    Netherlands, http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/lifestyle/e-free-and-be-gay-the-top-10-gay-friendly-countries-in-the-world/8/

     

    Lol??  But what is hateful about it, the three lines you wrote? And you think the world is a big rainbow gay paradise, ? 

     

    I wont preach my kid about being gay. Whatever happens I will love him with all my hearth! But what you wrote thats how I think ^^ But I dont think you need balls for it and does it make me hateful? I mean when you say its normal, it means you did have the balls for it? 

     

    To be honest it feels like the defenders here, searching for a medal or something ^^ Its just an opinion yours and my, nothing special.  What I also dont understand is why must some defenders must say it doesnt matter being gay and then they say with it or being black.  What does that say about their unconscious mind? Why bring that up -_-


  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    Originally posted by Dragnelus

     

    To be honest it feels like the defenders here, searching for a medal or something ^^ Its just an opinion yours and my, nothing special.  What I also dont understand is why must some defenders must say it doesnt matter being gay and then they say with it or being black.  What does that say about their unconscious mind? Why bring that up -_-

    I didn't ask for a medal - I clearly said that I find what you said about gays and  children.. disburbing.

    And I have no idea why you are swapping the topic to black people.

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  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114

    Just idiotic.

    Transgender people are people with mental issues. I find it sad that we try to make it appear normal. It is akin to Body integrity identity disorder.

  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    Originally posted by Dakeru
    Originally posted by Dragnelus

     

    To be honest it feels like the defenders here, searching for a medal or something ^^ Its just an opinion yours and my, nothing special.  What I also dont understand is why must some defenders must say it doesnt matter being gay and then they say with it or being black.  What does that say about their unconscious mind? Why bring that up -_-

    I didn't ask for a medal - I clearly said that I find what you said about gays and  children.. disburbing.

    And I have no idea why you are swapping the topic to black people.

    Is ment in general, if you look at every page and ctrl+f and put black in it, you will notice it. But anyways you didnt mentioned me but it is disturbing, thnx!

     

     


  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    Just idiotic.

    Transgender people are people with mental issues. I find it sad that we try to make it appear normal. It is akin to Body integrity identity disorder.

    Alan Turing disagrees with you from his grave I am sure. 

  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

  • Saur0nSaur0n Member UncommonPosts: 114
    I've always felt like I am a Dinosaur so I'm going to get scale skin injections and shorten my arms and turn my hands in to claws and everyone has to treat me like I'm perfectly sane and normal....
  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome.

     

    I could've expected this thread to explode.

     

    I wish my mind was so simplistic as the majority of ignoramus' here.

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  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by kenpokiller

    543 and counting

    There is nothing that can be done to Americans that they aren't doing to themselves already

     

    Just sayin

    So much wrong with this statement. Especially within the backdrop of this thread.

    Your reference to Americans and the use of "they" pretty much makes it all inclusive.

     

    Just sayin

     

    I'm sorry that wasn't my intention, i'm just hurt by all that is happening in US at the moment :(

    I know it's mostly the government, i've met awesome USA people

    Even had one sleep over few years back XD 

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    Well i would guess it has to do with the fact that they said the same about homosexuality when he was alive. 

     

    Go figure.... 

     

    Then again... female sexual arrousal was also a mehtal disorder at one time... So i do not put all that much weight to your opinion on the matter. 

    This have been a good conversation

  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by kenpokiller

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome.

     

    I could've expected this thread to explode.

     

    I wish my mind was so simplistic as the majority of ignoramus' here.

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome is very RARE disease. Nothing normal about it.

  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    i actually think that people that talk like this have some sort of mental disorder (or they are just ignorant). if they are ignorant there is no excuse for them because with no education about the topic they speak they only make fools of themselves

     

    ... with that being said I found it ridiculous that developers started to appease SJW. Who cares about that NPC, we are playing games to forget about the real world but if they really wanted to make a point they should put a transgender char as one of the main characters.

  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by tawess
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    Well i would guess it has to do with the fact that they said the same about homosexuality when he was alive. 

     

    Go figure.... 

     

    Then again... female sexual arrousal was also a mehtal disorder at one time... So i do not put all that much weight to your opinion on the matter. 

    So self mutilation is acceptable and nothing wrong with it?  As I said it is akin to body integrity identity disorder. If someone feels they need to get rid of a limb to be correct, then I guess there is nothing wrong with that at all and should just be accepted as normal.

  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by kenpokiller

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome.

     

    I could've expected this thread to explode.

     

    I wish my mind was so simplistic as the majority of ignoramus' here.

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome is very RARE disease. Nothing normal about it.

     

    Just as much as depressed people lack serotonin, or acceptance of their peers

    Just as ADHD'ers are deficient in their Dopamine receptors

    You're right, it's out of the norm.

     

    My doctor used to say, all humans, on average, see three anomalies in their bodies. Some visible, some aren't.

     

    What is normal?

    There's over 400 (known) mutations in AIS. 

     

    Owell I can't expect people to be well versed in biology / endocrinology and unwillingness to accept others. Tis fine.

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by kenpokiller
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by kenpokiller

    543 and counting

    There is nothing that can be done to Americans that they aren't doing to themselves already

     

    Just sayin

    So much wrong with this statement. Especially within the backdrop of this thread.

    Your reference to Americans and the use of "they" pretty much makes it all inclusive.

     

    Just sayin

     

    I'm sorry that wasn't my intention, i'm just hurt by all that is happening in US at the moment :(

    I know it's mostly the government, i've met awesome USA people

    Even had one sleep over few years back XD 

    I think he may also mean what does this have to do with America in general? This is an NPC in a game played worldwide. If it was developed in Russia would your statement be the same? 

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  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321

    Posts are back on page six. It was revolving 9th murdered person this year already of the 543 (and counting) so far in America.

     

    & no I don't care on which piece of clay it happened on earth

    it's just sad.

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  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by kenpokiller
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by kenpokiller

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome.

     

    I could've expected this thread to explode.

     

    I wish my mind was so simplistic as the majority of ignoramus' here.

    Androgen insensitivity syndrome is very RARE disease. Nothing normal about it.

     

    Just as much as depressed people lack serotonin, or acceptance of their peers

    Just as ADHD'ers are deficient in their Dopamine receptors

    You're right, it's out of the norm.

     

    My doctor used to say, all humans, on average, see three anomalies in their bodies. Some visible, some aren't.

     

    What is normal?

    There's over 400 (known) mutations in AIS. 

     

    Owell I can't expect people to be well versed in biology / endocrinology and unwillingness to accept others. Tis fine.

    Sorry I meant normal as in prevalence amongst the population.

    Besides:

    Does this character suffer from this disease therefor bringing attention to it or does this character in game just bring attention to the self mutilation part?

  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by kenpokiller
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by kenpokiller

    543 and counting

    There is nothing that can be done to Americans that they aren't doing to themselves already

     

    Just sayin

    So much wrong with this statement. Especially within the backdrop of this thread.

    Your reference to Americans and the use of "they" pretty much makes it all inclusive.

     

    Just sayin

     

    I'm sorry that wasn't my intention, i'm just hurt by all that is happening in US at the moment :(

    I know it's mostly the government, i've met awesome USA people

    Even had one sleep over few years back XD 

    I think he may also mean what does this have to do with America in general? This is an NPC in a game played worldwide. If it was developed in Russia would your statement be the same? 

    If this was developed in Russia, the developer would be killed.  At the very least beaten up and humiliated, often times revealed to their families and employers to finish it off.  There is a gay witch hunt in Russia right now.  I know that's not what you meant.  But, that place is insane.  Makes the USA look like a tolerant and accepting society.

  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by tawess
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    Well i would guess it has to do with the fact that they said the same about homosexuality when he was alive. 

     

    Go figure.... 

     

    Then again... female sexual arrousal was also a mehtal disorder at one time... So i do not put all that much weight to your opinion on the matter. 

    So self mutilation is acceptable and nothing wrong with it?  As I said it is akin to body integrity identity disorder. If someone feels they need to get rid of a limb to be correct, then I guess there is nothing wrong with that at all and should just be accepted as normal.

    they are not normal because you said so? Pitchforks? what is your basis to determine who is normal and who is not? a dislike instinct?

  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321

    Yes i'm a masochist and I love pain and hurting my body

    that must be it.

    Omg thank you realizing this makes it all vanish!

    i'm cured!!!!!!

     

    Ahahahaha, oh dear, people crack me up sometimes XD

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  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by tawess
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    Well i would guess it has to do with the fact that they said the same about homosexuality when he was alive. 

     

    Go figure.... 

     

    Then again... female sexual arrousal was also a mehtal disorder at one time... So i do not put all that much weight to your opinion on the matter. 

    So self mutilation is acceptable and nothing wrong with it?  As I said it is akin to body integrity identity disorder. If someone feels they need to get rid of a limb to be correct, then I guess there is nothing wrong with that at all and should just be accepted as normal.

    they are not normal because you said so? Pitchforks? what is your basis to determine who is normal and who is not? a dislike instinct?

    Reading comprehension is needed.

    I ask a question of what should be accepted as societal norms if this goes beyond your understanding not sure what to say. i said nothing of pitchforks.

    What I am saying is that transgender people should be looked at as someone with some sort of problem, whether it is a disease ( Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome ) or mental problem akin to body integrity identity disorder.

  • kenpokillerkenpokiller Member UncommonPosts: 321

    And you don't realize that marginalizes these people with that kind of wording?

     

    Everyone just wants to come by in life, they're humans like you, I don't know why a condition should define their life.

     

     

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  • gw2foolgw2fool Member UncommonPosts: 164
    One of my rangers did this ages ago, got bored with looking at the rear end of a male char, so switched!
  • mrBurns210mrBurns210 Member Posts: 114
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by tawess
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    Well i would guess it has to do with the fact that they said the same about homosexuality when he was alive. 

     

    Go figure.... 

     

    Then again... female sexual arrousal was also a mehtal disorder at one time... So i do not put all that much weight to your opinion on the matter. 

    So self mutilation is acceptable and nothing wrong with it?  As I said it is akin to body integrity identity disorder. If someone feels they need to get rid of a limb to be correct, then I guess there is nothing wrong with that at all and should just be accepted as normal.

     

    Most supposedly transgender people haven't fully changed gender and have no intention of doing so. Caitlyn Jenner for instance still has dangly bits. Your  generalization is too broad to be true.

    Then I apologies for the broad generalization. Any form of cosmetic surgery I view as self  mutilation.

  • n3v3rriv3rn3v3rriv3r Member UncommonPosts: 496
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by n3v3rriv3r
    Originally posted by mrBurns210
    Originally posted by tawess
    Originally posted by mrBurns210

    What does Turing have to do with transgender?

    Being gay / lesbian / bi is not a mental disorder. Just transgender as that is self mutilation.

    Well i would guess it has to do with the fact that they said the same about homosexuality when he was alive. 

     

    Go figure.... 

     

    Then again... female sexual arrousal was also a mehtal disorder at one time... So i do not put all that much weight to your opinion on the matter. 

    So self mutilation is acceptable and nothing wrong with it?  As I said it is akin to body integrity identity disorder. If someone feels they need to get rid of a limb to be correct, then I guess there is nothing wrong with that at all and should just be accepted as normal.

    they are not normal because you said so? Pitchforks? what is your basis to determine who is normal and who is not? a dislike instinct?

    Reading comprehension is needed.

    I ask a question of what should be accepted as societal norms if this goes beyond your understanding not sure what to say. i said nothing of pitchforks.

    What I am saying is that transgender people should be looked at as someone with some sort of problem, whether it is a disease ( Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome ) or mental problem akin to body integrity identity disorder.

     

    Look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

    especially this: "Most psychologists believe that paraphilic sexual interests cannot be altered.Instead, the goal of therapy is normally to reduce the person's discomfort with their paraphilia and limit any criminal behavior"

    let me even translate: it is up to them if they want treatment (provided they dont have behaviors that breaks the law). but that can be said for many of users on this forum. we all have problems that some sort of professional help could alleviate. so your particular interest in sending a transgender person for help is ... not needed rly

     

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