Hellfire Citadel the Final Raid of Warlords of Draenor

observer

Over on another site, HFC is the last expansion for WoD.

I thought MoP and Cata were bad expansions, but WoD is by far the worst one yet.  I don't see many players waiting over a year, for another expansion, without any other major content updates.

Moguy3

I am bored to death now . Also they have made materials, that you make in your garrison ,even more abundant. So crafting items is becoming worthless.  I have several months of tokens so I am not actually paying real money to log in . Yet I still have no idea why I am logging in = (

RedCurry

Originally posted by observer

Over on another site, HFC is the last expansion for WoD.

I thought MoP and Cata were bad expansions, but WoD is by far the worst one yet.  I don't see many players waiting over a year, for another expansion, without any other major content updates.

I was really looking forward to WoD and was surprised with how disappointed I ended up being with it. Garrisons bored me and it is such a huge part of WoD. I used to love playing the Auction House, and WoD killed it. At least I know that I'm finally done with WoW, will not by any future xpacs ( I had bought all of them up until now)

Bladestrom

Maybe now those blindly defending blizzard will finally see what has been going on for a long long time, they have ran out of vision and taken and replaced it with a corporate holding pattern, it's an insane strategy - their loyal customers pay 1 billion a year, any other company would be investing big time to hold such a large paying base. I just hope players wisen up and go to wildstar/ff14/gw2/eso and send the market a big bloody message.

BruceYee

I'm hoping they learn from their mistakes with WoD so the next expac won't be more of the same.

Herase

Originally posted by BruceYee
I'm hoping they learn from their mistakes with WoD so the next expac won't be more of the same.

I don't think so tbh, this xpac was meant to be the big one, the on that brought the game back to it's roots with massive changes. This was meant to be the "we've learnt from our mistakes" xpac, hence why so many players returned, but to many peoples disappointment nothing changed, in fact they some how made things worse.   

Admire the positive outlook, but think things are just too far gone.

 

Won't put all the blame on blizz though, we have to remember there's a shadowy dark spectre lurking just behind them called Activi$ion.

CrazKanuk

Can't wait for the next expansion. I've already pre-ordered it. 

Bladestrom

Why?

Shodanas

Originally posted by BruceYee
I'm hoping they learn from their mistakes with WoD so the next expac won't be more of the same.

Does Blizzard really expect that 6.2 will carry the game for a whole year ?? I hope not because you can be sure that this time people won't stick around. 

CrazKanuk

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Why?

Why? Because it's still better than the vast majority of MMORPGs. 

 

EDIT: Not than complacency is ok, but Blizz still does more than the majority of games. 

observer

Originally posted by Shodanas

Originally posted by BruceYee
I'm hoping they learn from their mistakes with WoD so the next expac won't be more of the same.

Does Blizzard really expect that 6.2 will carry the game for a whole year ?? I hope not because you can be sure that this time people won't stick around. 

Only the most hardcore will stick around, but as a 10 year old game, that number will be a lot smaller than it was in the past.

cerulean2012

I don't know but I liked WoD.  Maybe it wasn't the biggest expansion ever but I have enjoyed it and still do.

Bladestrom

Originally posted by CrazKanuk

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Why?

Why? Because it's still better than the vast majority of MMORPGs. 

 

EDIT: Not than complacency is ok, but Blizz still does more than the majority of games. 

 I think quite a few AAA mmos have moved on a hell of a lot and are a far better proposition than WOW now and certainly offer more content per $ invested by a mile.  My question however is  why you would pay in advance when you have no idea what they are actually making - and especially considering their recent track record.  Imagine if everyone simply bought the next expansion without looking - bingo complacency/greed.

simmihi

If it's the last content patch before an eventual "next" expansion, it's kind of a miss, and that's mostly because 6.2 "content" is so boring and grindy that people have trouble going through it with their main. Even the thought of going through this apexis grind with an alt makes me run away scared.

 

And about WoD as a whole... for me, the raids were nice, as expected. Also loved the custom cross server party finder tool, for different events, liked grinding big scary mobs for my barn with strangers, doing some group quests, garrison visiting etc. Disliked the "garrison" idea, i don't like this kind of thing, in my view it has nothing to do with the MMO world, ruining player interaction even more, while also seriously hurting crafting and the economy. Liked the "gold" focus and the wow token idea, this actually made gold useful, I know a lot of players that played the game not for the raids, but to have an army of alts, be able to craft everything and such (even though they got severely hurt by the "garrison" idea).

 

Dauntis

I still play, because I am still having fun... and nope your opinion on WoW doesn't affect my enjoyment or I imagine any of all the people still playing's enjoyment.

Let's face it, even if 75% of players left from WoW, it would still leave them with more players than the rest of the mmo's out there.

Also, WoD may not have been your cup of tea, but you cannot say it was horrible or lacked content. It had plenty of stuff to do. And it is actually pretty normal cycle that the expansions last raid hit now. That does not mean there won't be new things to do added... and once they announce the next expansion there will be lead in content added.

There will never be enough content for the locusts, that is just an inevitable fact and it is difficult to keep moderate players completely busy all the time if they have no desire for alts.

... but I really don't know any game with as much content and quality ( but quality is an opinion) or that I have enjoyed as much as WoW.

tawess

Originally posted by Shodanas

Originally posted by BruceYee
I'm hoping they learn from their mistakes with WoD so the next expac won't be more of the same.

Does Blizzard really expect that 6.2 will carry the game for a whole year ?? I hope not because you can be sure that this time people won't stick around. 

i guess we will know come this fall. 

 

 

 

CrazKanuk

Originally posted by Bladestrom

Originally posted by CrazKanuk

Originally posted by Bladestrom
Why?

Why? Because it's still better than the vast majority of MMORPGs. 

 

EDIT: Not than complacency is ok, but Blizz still does more than the majority of games. 

 I think quite a few AAA mmos have moved on a hell of a lot and are a far better proposition than WOW now and certainly offer more content per $ invested by a mile.  My question however is  why you would pay in advance when you have no idea what they are actually making - and especially considering their recent track record.  Imagine if everyone simply bought the next expansion without looking - bingo complacency/greed.

Well from a content / $ value perspective, yes there is plenty out there that's a better value. It's a sub, though, so it's anomalous these days. I was joking about having it pre-ordered, but  will as soon as they announce it this year. 

Myrdynn

WOW is free to play for me so content /$ there is no comparison

as a matter of fact, nobody I know pays a sub any more

 

Soki123

Maybe they re planning a progression server

Gravarg

Blizzard has said that each expansion will have less content than previous years, however, they want to make it so you aren't playing the same content for over a year in between expansions like other expansions.

Bladestrom

You realise you just contradicted yourself right? What blizzard promised was more expansions less patches, and therefore the bottom line is more content.

What thru have actually done is less patches, less content, higher expansion cost and again big incomming content drought until next expansion. They are ripping the piss.

gervaise1

Old business model:

• Collect subs; spend some of sub money on patches; release paid xpac every two+  years; get sub boost

New business model:

• Collect subs; spend less sub money on patches; release more frequent paid xpac; get more frequent sub boosts

Don't think that qualifies as more content or less content.

 

It is just Blizzard wanting more money for the same content and hoping for more frequent xpac boosts. Blizzard are not the only ones who can take "holidays" though - subscribers can too.

cerulean2012

All I hear is cry, cry, cry.  They could have doubled the content of previous expansion and people would still be mad.

Get over it, it is what it is.  Quit or not.

rojoArcueid

Originally posted by Myrdynn

WOW is free to play for me so content /$ there is no comparison

as a matter of fact, nobody I know pays a sub any more

 

thats how i started playing WoW and the game was so good that i bought it when cata came out and being getting all expansions ever since. But i dont subscribe every single month for any mmo so even if they dont release any more content before the next expansion, i still have enough content to cover in WoD.

Chrisbox

Originally posted by cerulean2012

All I hear is cry, cry, cry.  They could have doubled the content of previous expansion and people would still be mad.

Get over it, it is what it is.  Quit or not.

Not really, they've been starving players since MoP on a level that you probably don't understand since it sounds like you haven't played.  For a company like blizzard, content draught is the last thing that should bring about one of their games downfalls and yet it is.  Sad.  

observer

Originally posted by cerulean2012

All I hear is cry, cry, cry.  They could have doubled the content of previous expansion and people would still be mad.

Get over it, it is what it is.  Quit or not.

Not really.  People have never complained this much about lack of content for an expansion.  It all started at the end of MoP when it took them 18 months for WoD, and now they expect players to wait for 12+ months for another $50 expansion?  That's not crying at all.  It's disappointment.