And BTW : EVERY company i know restricts access to internal communication tools once someone leaves the company. Thats not banning. Thats standard modus operandi. That is in every company electronic security SOP. Rights revoked, passwords changed etc. ... the works ....
Have fun
Depending on the sensitivity of the data etc, most Companies change passwords every 30 days just as a matter of course. But yes, its common for passwords to be changed when someone leaves the company.
Blizzard employees have ZERO impact on their game sales,so why anyone would pay extra to lure away one of their employees is mind boggling.
Further more Blizzard has NEVER been a cutting edge developer,they simply got lucky with Warcraft and have been soaking it for awhile now.Remember Vivendi tried to sell Blizzard at one time with no takers lol.
IMO some of their better paid execs are getting worried about the future of their jobs,so if they see another contract worth at least a year they will grab it.
When i think of Chris i think of exactly what i mentioned about Blizzard,he is not a guy that has ever proven to me he can make a Triple A product.Sure he might have had some success making money in past ventures,just as Blizzard has,it doesn't mean they were quality projects,just means he got lucky the same as Farmville did,and the one guy who made several hundred thousand with a simple tank IOS game,same as every lucky break that happens.
Look how much money CCP has made from a VERY easy game to make profits on,even they won't attempt what Chris is doing,too risky,eats too much profit and you need a real good vision and team.
If i was guiding Chris to spend 85 million,i would have said get Epic games involved,pay them to contract the ground work,fps part of the game,perhaps even take them as a partner.They could have branched off with an IOS version as Epic games is just a king at that with very high quality work as well as highly skilled technical people.A Blizzard guy to run the show lol no thanks.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
And BTW : EVERY company i know restricts access to internal communication tools once someone leaves the company. Thats not banning. Thats standard modus operandi. That is in every company electronic security SOP. Rights revoked, passwords changed etc. ... the works ....
Have fun
Depending on the sensitivity of the data etc, most Companies change passwords every 30 days just as a matter of course. But yes, its common for passwords to be changed when someone leaves the company.
It wasn't an internal communication tool. It was the chat available to any backers of the game.
Apparently for CIG is ok to take advantage of the name of Alex Mayberry to promote the game when he came one year ago, to call attention to the press and making people feeling that they have the skills and capabilities needed to deliver, and in consequence, probably throwing more money on them.
Around the internet, it was the first name that any fan of the game used to defend they have what is need, when people claimed that they don't.
When hired he was largely discussed and in general, praised, in the same own forums that now people started to ask explanations or question to others if his departure (along with many others of leadership roles recently and in the past) could be a bad sign or not.
And then, a week later after Roberts to renew his promise of open communication, everyone knows at this point that the same Alex Mayberry left, and the reaction of CIG basically proved that:
All threads related were closed by CIG on sight, using to justify it, a certain "Rule #9". I checked that and it says:
"9. Contribute. We want to hear from you. Some of the best ideas come from the unlikeliest thoughts, so if you have something to add stand up and say it! Remember, the purpose of the Star Citizen community is to help the development team create the best possible game. We love posts that help us build our world and hate ones that waste our time by involving CIG staff in unnecessary drama, moderation oversight or rumor mongering."
So... How possibly someone worried with a big guy leaving the project and standing up and saying it, could be against such rule above.
Those asking are not even involving "CIG Staff" in unnecessary drama, because the guy is not even part of the staff anymore, and that's exactly what people asked... why he is not there anymore... his coming represented trust, and yes, his departure represent valid concerns.
Each second CIG proves to be more and more deceptive and working in the one-way street road, and in general, just pretending to share, but they share only what is convenient to boost sales, in general, not really the reality.
And I have no idea in what world they think that it gives to them a better image. Pretty much a ridiculous attitude of who constantly claims to be "opened". They seem lost.
Originally posted by justmemyselfandi Star Citizen is going to be known as Kickstarter's E.T.
My opinion of crowdfunded mmos is pretty low, as any who have read my posts would know, but SC has been the one I really hoped made it, if for no other reason than the record public investment in it.
Fyi, I liked Atari2600 ET, but I was 8 at the time and it was Christmas.
Apparently for CIG is ok to take advantage of the name of Alex Mayberry to promote the game when he came one year ago, to call attention to the press and making people feeling that they have the skills and capabilities needed to deliver, and in consequence, probably throwing more money on them.
Around the internet, it was the first name that any fan of the game used to defend they have what is need, when people claimed that they don't.
When hired he was largely discussed and in general, praised, in the same own forums that now people started to ask explanations or question to others if his departure (along with many others of leadership roles recently and in the past) could be a bad sign or not.
And then, a week later after Roberts to renew his promise of open communication, everyone knows at this point that the same Alex Mayberry left, and the reaction of CIG basically proved that:
All threads related were closed by CIG on sight, using to justify it, a certain "Rule #9". I checked that and it says:
"9. Contribute. We want to hear from you. Some of the best ideas come from the unlikeliest thoughts, so if you have something to add stand up and say it! Remember, the purpose of the Star Citizen community is to help the development team create the best possible game. We love posts that help us build our world and hate ones that waste our time by involving CIG staff in unnecessary drama, moderation oversight or rumor mongering."
So... How possibly someone worried with a big guy leaving the project and standing up and saying it, could be against such rule above.
Those asking are not even involving "CIG Staff" in unnecessary drama, because the guy is not even part of the staff anymore, and that's exactly what people asked... why he is not there anymore... his coming represented trust, and yes, his departure represent valid concerns.
Each second CIG proves to be more and more deceptive and working in the one-way street road, and in general, just pretending to share, but they share only what is convenient to boost sales, in general, not really the reality.
And I have no idea in what world they think that it gives to them a better image. Pretty much a ridiculous attitude of who constantly claims to be "opened". They seem lost.
Yeah, I'm really devastated by how CIG handles the situation. I thought CR was an honest man who would bring us the best game the world will witness ever. I still in believe in them though to give us what is basically the second coming. Has anyone already found out how they will repair this loss? Maybe they can give us a paypal number so we can directly support CIG in their dire times.
"Hey! I can't offer much of an update beyond to say that the article is accurate. Erin will be stepping in as head of Global Production." - Ben Lesnick
Now I am excited to pledge much more. I want the entire Roberts family richer and richer.
Maybe his son that he has with Sandi Gardiner, VP of Marketing and wife, could take care of Squadron 42 and the Foundry 42 studio now? That would make me pledge more 100k dollars.
Irony aside, Erin has tons of more experience to deliver games than Roberts. Was a good call in my point of view. Maybe, as a brother, he could have a better ability to make Roberts put his feet in the ground and stop the madness. Who knows. His influence could grow to a point that finally the root cause of all CIG problems could come to an end: the ship sales.
The article above has a representative unnamed who said:
"We were sorry that Alex had to leave the CIG family," the representative said. "No impact at all on development. In fact, it's full steam ahead for us."
He deserves a part of my pledges only because had the balls to say such non-sense.
Hmm, reasons still unclear ... word of mouth is that he left for health reasons. That is also said to be the reason why no new employer is mentioned in his LinkedIn profile. We will see.
At this time I am really worried about CIG, I wish I could buy some more ships to support them in these times of hardship. Are you guys with me?
I am with you. If we ask nicely and be good guys, I am sure that they still can reward us with more offers of that 15k dollars package.
One can hope, yes? Lol. I heard they are going to now offer a $25k package, and if you hurry up and pony up, they'll let you walk around your hangar and sit in your ship and take a selfie! You know, the ship that has no game to fly in?
I'm sorry but I just can't help myself with SC sometimes. I don't want any game to fail, because the more successful games we get - especially MMOs - the more pressure will be on upcoming games to actually be high quality. But in the case of SC, if it looks like a money grab and walks like a money grab and quacks like a money grab.......well, you know.
"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
Originally posted by vgamer Wow, is this the beginning of the end of the utopia? I think CR should pump out some ships so they can get more money for a new executive producer. I bet there are still millions of people who believe in the dream and wouldn't mind to support CR with a few thousands bucks.
God forbid if someone leaves a company because of being fired, leaving for other endeavours, sickness, death, whatever.
This never happens at a company!
The whole company and game must be doomed!
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
"Mayberry's is the second high-profile loss that Cloud Imperium has suffered recently: Also in June, Senior Producer Travis Day left the company to take up employment at Blizzard, as did "associate concierge" Chelsea Ann Day."
"Cloud Imperium Games has confirmed that Star Citizen executive producer Alex Mayberry left the company in June "for personal reasons." The bulk of his duties will now be assumed by Erin Roberts, the global head of production at Cloud Imperium and brother of studio founder Chris Roberts, whose previous production credits include Wing Commander: Privateer, Strike Commander, and Privateer 2."
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
"Mayberry's is the second high-profile loss that Cloud Imperium has suffered recently: Also in June, Senior Producer Travis Day left the company to take up employment at Blizzard, as did "associate concierge" Chelsea Ann Day."
"Cloud Imperium Games has confirmed that Star Citizen executive producer Alex Mayberry left the company in June "for personal reasons." The bulk of his duties will now be assumed by Erin Roberts, the global head of production at Cloud Imperium and brother of studio founder Chris Roberts, whose previous production credits include Wing Commander: Privateer, Strike Commander, and Privateer 2."
I guess that Roberts has been reading the forums here:
OP, using Mr. Smart as a "reliable" source speaks volumes about your motivations... ^^ Anyone who is familiar with his rather "colorful" history, knows exactly what I'm referring to.
No doubt next, we will be entertained by tales of how Star Citizen is just "vapor ware" and Chris Roberts is planning to disappear to some tropical island or another...<rolls eyes>
OP, using Mr. Smart as a "reliable" source speaks volumes about your motivations... ^^ Anyone who is familiar with his rather "colorful" history, knows exactly what I'm referring to.
No doubt next, we will be entertained by tales of how Star Citizen is just "vapor ware" and Chris Roberts is planning to disappear to some tropical island or another...
Problem with your rethoric is that Derek was actually right. Alex Mayberry left the company.
Roberts is not particularly fun to work for, nor particularly competent. The only person I know who worked at CIG left after a short time there. His report? 'Definitely not an enjoyable work environment'. All the old Origins folks that I know have nothing nice to say about Chris. Have never heard that much one way or another about Erin though.
But outside people leaving Star Citizen after a relatively short time working on the project? Not a big surprise. Roberts can be a very good salesman, as he believes anything he says. Once you see the internal workings in action, most likely a different story. If previous history is any guide.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Guys, don't resort to slander. I truly believe in CR and his holy quest to bring us the best game that will ever grace mankind. Just respect us fans for putting up thousands of dollars in the marvelous vision of one Man. No harm is done when the next ship is rolled out to be sold and we fans are happilly accepting everything this Guy gives to us. The heavens praise CR, he will bring us the best game ever and you nay-sayers will all be amazed. What could possibly go wrong with so much money?
Originally posted by vgamer Guys, don't resort to slander. I truly believe in CR and his holy quest to bring us the best game that will ever grace mankind. Just respect us fans for putting up thousands of dollars in the marvelous vision of one Man. No harm is done when the next ship is rolled out to be sold and we fans are happilly accepting everything this Guy gives to us. The heavens praise CR, he will bring us the best game ever and you nay-sayers will all be amazed. What could possibly go wrong with so much money?
How can you say that! Obviously things could go wrong. They can release the game, probably 10% of what was promised, but then we won't have fancy JPEG's to buy!
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Depending on the sensitivity of the data etc, most Companies change passwords every 30 days just as a matter of course. But yes, its common for passwords to be changed when someone leaves the company.
Blizzard employees have ZERO impact on their game sales,so why anyone would pay extra to lure away one of their employees is mind boggling.
Further more Blizzard has NEVER been a cutting edge developer,they simply got lucky with Warcraft and have been soaking it for awhile now.Remember Vivendi tried to sell Blizzard at one time with no takers lol.
IMO some of their better paid execs are getting worried about the future of their jobs,so if they see another contract worth at least a year they will grab it.
When i think of Chris i think of exactly what i mentioned about Blizzard,he is not a guy that has ever proven to me he can make a Triple A product.Sure he might have had some success making money in past ventures,just as Blizzard has,it doesn't mean they were quality projects,just means he got lucky the same as Farmville did,and the one guy who made several hundred thousand with a simple tank IOS game,same as every lucky break that happens.
Look how much money CCP has made from a VERY easy game to make profits on,even they won't attempt what Chris is doing,too risky,eats too much profit and you need a real good vision and team.
If i was guiding Chris to spend 85 million,i would have said get Epic games involved,pay them to contract the ground work,fps part of the game,perhaps even take them as a partner.They could have branched off with an IOS version as Epic games is just a king at that with very high quality work as well as highly skilled technical people.A Blizzard guy to run the show lol no thanks.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
It wasn't an internal communication tool. It was the chat available to any backers of the game.
Apparently for CIG is ok to take advantage of the name of Alex Mayberry to promote the game when he came one year ago, to call attention to the press and making people feeling that they have the skills and capabilities needed to deliver, and in consequence, probably throwing more money on them.
Around the internet, it was the first name that any fan of the game used to defend they have what is need, when people claimed that they don't.
When hired he was largely discussed and in general, praised, in the same own forums that now people started to ask explanations or question to others if his departure (along with many others of leadership roles recently and in the past) could be a bad sign or not.
And then, a week later after Roberts to renew his promise of open communication, everyone knows at this point that the same Alex Mayberry left, and the reaction of CIG basically proved that:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/270841/so-alex-mayberry-has-taken-his-leave-now-too
All threads related were closed by CIG on sight, using to justify it, a certain "Rule #9". I checked that and it says:
"9. Contribute. We want to hear from you. Some of the best ideas come from the unlikeliest thoughts, so if you have something to add stand up and say it! Remember, the purpose of the Star Citizen community is to help the development team create the best possible game. We love posts that help us build our world and hate ones that waste our time by involving CIG staff in unnecessary drama, moderation oversight or rumor mongering."
So... How possibly someone worried with a big guy leaving the project and standing up and saying it, could be against such rule above.
Those asking are not even involving "CIG Staff" in unnecessary drama, because the guy is not even part of the staff anymore, and that's exactly what people asked... why he is not there anymore... his coming represented trust, and yes, his departure represent valid concerns.
Each second CIG proves to be more and more deceptive and working in the one-way street road, and in general, just pretending to share, but they share only what is convenient to boost sales, in general, not really the reality.
And I have no idea in what world they think that it gives to them a better image. Pretty much a ridiculous attitude of who constantly claims to be "opened". They seem lost.
My opinion of crowdfunded mmos is pretty low, as any who have read my posts would know, but SC has been the one I really hoped made it, if for no other reason than the record public investment in it.
Fyi, I liked Atari2600 ET, but I was 8 at the time and it was Christmas.
Yeah, I'm really devastated by how CIG handles the situation. I thought CR was an honest man who would bring us the best game the world will witness ever. I still in believe in them though to give us what is basically the second coming. Has anyone already found out how they will repair this loss? Maybe they can give us a paypal number so we can directly support CIG in their dire times.
https://games.yahoo.com/news/star-citizen-executive-producer-quits-180200272.html
"Hey! I can't offer much of an update beyond to say that the article is accurate. Erin will be stepping in as head of Global Production." - Ben Lesnick
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/5273800/#Comment_5273800
And now I know why Alex Mayberry had to go
You know... Erin Roberts.
Now I am excited to pledge much more. I want the entire Roberts family richer and richer.
Maybe his son that he has with Sandi Gardiner, VP of Marketing and wife, could take care of Squadron 42 and the Foundry 42 studio now? That would make me pledge more 100k dollars.
Irony aside, Erin has tons of more experience to deliver games than Roberts. Was a good call in my point of view. Maybe, as a brother, he could have a better ability to make Roberts put his feet in the ground and stop the madness. Who knows. His influence could grow to a point that finally the root cause of all CIG problems could come to an end: the ship sales.
The article above has a representative unnamed who said:
"We were sorry that Alex had to leave the CIG family," the representative said. "No impact at all on development. In fact, it's full steam ahead for us."
He deserves a part of my pledges only because had the balls to say such non-sense.
Hmm, reasons still unclear ... word of mouth is that he left for health reasons. That is also said to be the reason why no new employer is mentioned in his LinkedIn profile. We will see.
Have fun
One can hope, yes? Lol. I heard they are going to now offer a $25k package, and if you hurry up and pony up, they'll let you walk around your hangar and sit in your ship and take a selfie! You know, the ship that has no game to fly in?
I'm sorry but I just can't help myself with SC sometimes. I don't want any game to fail, because the more successful games we get - especially MMOs - the more pressure will be on upcoming games to actually be high quality. But in the case of SC, if it looks like a money grab and walks like a money grab and quacks like a money grab.......well, you know.
"Why would I want to loose a religion upon my people? Religions wreck from within - Empires and individuals alike! It's all the same." - God Emperor of Dune
God forbid if someone leaves a company because of being fired, leaving for other endeavours, sickness, death, whatever.
This never happens at a company!
The whole company and game must be doomed!
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
The gaming press seems to have picked up the story: http://www.pcgamer.com/star-citizen-executive-producer-leaves-cloud-imperium-games/
"Mayberry's is the second high-profile loss that Cloud Imperium has suffered recently: Also in June, Senior Producer Travis Day left the company to take up employment at Blizzard, as did "associate concierge" Chelsea Ann Day."
"Cloud Imperium Games has confirmed that Star Citizen executive producer Alex Mayberry left the company in June "for personal reasons." The bulk of his duties will now be assumed by Erin Roberts, the global head of production at Cloud Imperium and brother of studio founder Chris Roberts, whose previous production credits include Wing Commander: Privateer, Strike Commander, and Privateer 2."
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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I guess that Roberts has been reading the forums here:
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/883/view/forums/thread/435356/Give-the-helm-to-Erin-Roberts-before-be-too-late.html
OP, using Mr. Smart as a "reliable" source speaks volumes about your motivations... ^^ Anyone who is familiar with his rather "colorful" history, knows exactly what I'm referring to.
No doubt next, we will be entertained by tales of how Star Citizen is just "vapor ware" and Chris Roberts is planning to disappear to some tropical island or another...<rolls eyes>
Problem with your rethoric is that Derek was actually right. Alex Mayberry left the company.
Roberts is not particularly fun to work for, nor particularly competent. The only person I know who worked at CIG left after a short time there. His report? 'Definitely not an enjoyable work environment'. All the old Origins folks that I know have nothing nice to say about Chris. Have never heard that much one way or another about Erin though.
But outside people leaving Star Citizen after a relatively short time working on the project? Not a big surprise. Roberts can be a very good salesman, as he believes anything he says. Once you see the internal workings in action, most likely a different story. If previous history is any guide.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
How can you say that! Obviously things could go wrong. They can release the game, probably 10% of what was promised, but then we won't have fancy JPEG's to buy!