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Lightbinder or alchemist

cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404

I was thinking of one of these two classes I love support you see but will I be able to solo anything or am I severely limiting myself if I play these like earning prestige and soloing when I cannot get groups. Anyone played either of these two classes have any insights to offer me please.

 

Taking a break from Wither had a very bad headache last I played so am thinking of taking a break and since I have this game I want to play it.

 

I hope I can group with my two support classes. How is the group gameplay ?

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  • CernanCernan Member UncommonPosts: 360
    I'm in the same boat as you. I wish it didn't take so long to get new classes. I want 1 tank and 1 support. So do I start with a pally and work on unlocking a Alchemist or start with a Lightbinder and work on unlocking a Knight.  I guess it need to watch more videos.  I wish there was more info available.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,618
    Is it worth 20$ to try this game now, any of you founders out there regret your purchase?

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita Member UncommonPosts: 517

    2x wrath of gods founders, 1 for me and 1 for my wife... No regrets

    I much prefer the lightbinder to the alchemist... The way they handle support targeting in the game is interesting and takes some getting used to, so give it a chance even if you may find it a bit frustrating early on...

    Those are not the only support builds... Other classes(i.e. archer) have some really interesting support options.

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  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita Member UncommonPosts: 517
    Originally posted by Cernan
    I'm in the same boat as you. I wish it didn't take so long to get new classes. I want 1 tank and 1 support. So do I start with a pally and work on unlocking a Alchemist or start with a Lightbinder and work on unlocking a Knight.  I guess it need to watch more videos.  I wish there was more info available.

    Play through the intro and then you can try them all out in the training hall and get an idea....

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  • CernanCernan Member UncommonPosts: 360
    Originally posted by Mors-Subita
    Originally posted by Cernan
    I'm in the same boat as you. I wish it didn't take so long to get new classes. I want 1 tank and 1 support. So do I start with a pally and work on unlocking a Alchemist or start with a Lightbinder and work on unlocking a Knight.  I guess it need to watch more videos.  I wish there was more info available.

    Play through the intro and then you can try them all out in the training hall and get an idea....

    I was under the impression that a lot of skills were not available in the tutorial. I watched one on the Knight and his eagle skill was not available. It seemed like more or less just weapon combos.

  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita Member UncommonPosts: 517
    Originally posted by Cernan
    Originally posted by Mors-Subita
    Originally posted by Cernan
    I'm in the same boat as you. I wish it didn't take so long to get new classes. I want 1 tank and 1 support. So do I start with a pally and work on unlocking a Alchemist or start with a Lightbinder and work on unlocking a Knight.  I guess it need to watch more videos.  I wish there was more info available.

    Play through the intro and then you can try them all out in the training hall and get an idea....

    I was under the impression that a lot of skills were not available in the tutorial. I watched one on the Knight and his eagle skill was not available. It seemed like more or less just weapon combos.

    Not quite, pretty much all of them unlock at least 1 skill for each skill slot. Unfortunately you can't respec during the tutorials, so you are stuck with their skill selection... But it gives you a good idea of how the class works.

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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    Originally posted by cheyane

    I was thinking of one of these two classes I love support you see but will I be able to solo anything or am I severely limiting myself if I play these like earning prestige and soloing when I cannot get groups. Anyone played either of these two classes have any insights to offer me please.

     

    Taking a break from Wither had a very bad headache last I played so am thinking of taking a break and since I have this game I want to play it.

     

    I hope I can group with my two support classes. How is the group gameplay ?

     

    Group gameplay is laughable unless you play with someone from the get-go.

    Hell, gameplay in general is laughable imo, but since its free it's worth a shot to see for yourself at least.

     

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    Made a lightbinder for now. I am still getting used to the combat. Not being able to strafe is a bit off putting for me or might just be something I need to get used to.
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  • BraindomeBraindome Member UncommonPosts: 959
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Is it worth 20$ to try this game now, any of you founders out there regret your purchase?

    I reserved the name Dante Sparda....my character also looks like Dante Sparda and I selected Paladin, no regrets. image

    Yes there are other things as well as in-game and store credits and other useful items, but name reservation was my biggest thing as I wanted an exact character name of which I now have, plus the game is fun to me so worth the $20 imho.

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404

    The headache from Witcher was from using the witcher senses too much. I also cannot play first person games I get sick after 20 minutes. Pity i so want to play games like Deus X and Half life and so on but Skyforge is okay so far since it is third person view.

     

    I try to play Witcher for like 30 minutes tops but sometimes I get carried away and then pay for it.

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  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita Member UncommonPosts: 517
    Originally posted by cheyane
    Made a lightbinder for now. I am still getting used to the combat. Not being able to strafe is a bit off putting for me or might just be something I need to get used to.

    what do you mean?? A and D are strafe left/right.

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404

    Eeek ! Sorry meant turn left and right the strafe is there but am moving my mouse for that now just a question of getting used to it and I sort of bound Shift + WASD to my mouse to make the dodge easier  to use. I am terrible at hitting two keys so this will help me a lot to manage to avoid the attacks for tougher mobs.

     

    I know that there is no real open world but the game is not so bad you jump in for may be an hour then yo leave and for that it is a good game and I like how you work to get the skills unlocked and work towards the classes you want to unlock. 

     

    My husband wanted to play but since you can only play one character he was a little miffed. 

     

    Granted that this is not a traditional MMORPG but to be honest it is not a bad game so far.

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Don't regret my purchase at all. Also, some people have already accessed their advanced class. I'm actually pretty close to unlocking kinetic, and i'm definitely not a hardcore player. So it's not as bad as you think. 
  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Is it worth 20$ to try this game now, any of you founders out there regret your purchase?

    In exactly 6 days it will be free.  So its about same worth to pay 20$ for early access now as it is worth to  light them on fire and watch them burn slowly.

    Actually burning 20$ might probably be more fun



  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Originally posted by Lobotomist
    Originally posted by Asm0deus
    Is it worth 20$ to try this game now, any of you founders out there regret your purchase?

    In exactly 6 days it will be free.  So its about same worth to pay 20$ for early access now as it is worth to  light them on fire and watch them burn slowly.

    Actually burning 20$ might probably be more fun

    You also get some goodies for 20 bucks. Included speeding up your leveling for the first week. Wife and I both have the top tier founders pack. Considering it boosts your account for 60 days I thought it was worth it. Playing a Paladin and my other char will be an archer. So I have set a path straight to archer. Cant wait to be able to switch between the two =-) Gona be fun!!!! 

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    After you follow the story for a bit you get access to all the classes in the training hall.  If you complete the training challenge you are awarded the  outfit for that class if you don't have it already and it lets you know how game play works with all the classes before you put time into them.  I got access the second day of game play, so it's not right at the start.

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  • Mors-SubitaMors-Subita Member UncommonPosts: 517
    Originally posted by cheyane

    Eeek ! Sorry meant turn left and right 

    No offense, but I cannot think of ANY game where you should be turning using the keyboard....

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    I am expressing myself badly generally I do not use mouse turn a lot in a lot of games unless it is for PvP or some harder fights. Many older games you use tab target and can use WASD and then QE to strafe and keyboard turning in those games as a ranged character does not impair you in any way. But this game they place the normal keys I am used to AD as strafe. I usually use QE to strafe. So am still getting used to it but since I bound shift+A and Shift+D to my left and right center mouse I have a G600 logitech I am better at fighting now.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    Originally posted by cheyane
    I am expressing myself badly generally I do not use mouse turn a lot in a lot of games unless it is for PvP or some harder fights. Many older games you use tab target and can use WASD and then QE to strafe and keyboard turning in those games as a ranged character does not impair you in any way. But this game they place the normal keys I am used to AD as strafe. I usually use QE to strafe. So am still getting used to it but since I bound shift+A and Shift+D to my left and right center mouse I have a G600 logitech I am better at fighting now.

    You can change the keybinds to just about anything under settings. 

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404
    Yes I am aware I can but if I do A and D would still not turn left and right. Those movements are not in game so its pointless for me to shift it to Q and E . It's not important it is just something that I'm used to in other games. I generally use the keyboard just to move around when I am not fighting and relaxed but it is fine just have to get used to it is all.
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  • elveoneelveone Member RarePosts: 430

    OK, lets answer some of the initial questions. You will be able to level normally when playing lightbinder and alchemist. Compared to a DPS class the supports are a bit sturdier and have a little bit less damage but you still progress at a very good pace. Both of the classes have abilities that are specifically designed for solo play(high damage skills with support alternatives, reflective shields, etc) to provide a smoother leveling up experience.

    The two classes are also a bit different when it comes to group play. The lightbinder is a defensive shielding class with a few offensive buffs while the alchemist is the other way around - very high offensive buffs and some shields. Both of the classes have some crowd control and ground control abilities as well.

    A thing to consider is that there is no "either or" in Skyforge. You can max and play both classes together with other ones and switch to a specific class when appropriate. You get the Lightbinder as a starter class and you unlock the Alchemist class later on so by the time you get to unlock the Alchemist you might have already maxed the Lightbinder.

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404

    Thanks elveone .

     

    I wanted to check on stats on Lightbinder I just finished Port Nouri I think the one Neriads. Anyway I have a bunch of rings so I need to know which ones to keep and use and which I can disassemble. I plan to play the lightbinder and may be much later get the alchemist but so far am enjoying the game .I cannot play too long my fingers hurt rofl. Well I am kinda slow and old so I play less.

     

     Also I have a question about upgrading my weapon which I did to 100% then I was given an option to increase that 400% .I was wondering is that for the slot  and does it carry over to my next weapon when I change it or only for the current weapon ?

     

    What should I concentrate on and what abilities should I get to enhance my soloing for now. I tried searching for information but there is not much on google search.

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  • elveoneelveone Member RarePosts: 430

    I don't remember best stat combinations, I am playing super casually and usually get just the highest stat combination I can find. People say that strength/luck is the best combination but I cannot confirm or deny it.

    As for the weapon(and other slot) upgrades - they are applied to all classes and items equipped into the slot so upgrade away :)

    I usually use Spark of Anger and Starstorm for single target damage and Particle of Light and Supernova for AoE damage. The talents - Spark Power, Summit, Deflection, Bright Flares, Solar Breeze and Quasar Stabilization.

  • VikingGamerVikingGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,350

    Support is incredibly fun in this game. I usually play healers in mmos. I have primarily played the Lightbinder in CBT and RU OBT.  You really don't limit yourself at all with the lightbinder. Depending on which skills you have slotted you can do great dps. Not quite as bursty as some classes but still very good. They can also be very durable especially if you time your shields well. They don't really have combos on their basic attacks so that is how they differ from many other classes.

    But of course, where they really shine is in groups. You need to swap back and forth between shielding your allies at the right times and deciding who should get your shields the most, usually the tank and buffing the damage of you dps and timing some buff with when they are ready to burst that dps and also doing your own dps on mobs an bosses. There is a lot to do for the supports in a group. It is a lot of fun.

    Yet, because there is not real healing you have to get used to not being able to fix your teams mistakes. You job isn't to fix the damage that your team gets because you can't you can just make them stronger at key points in the fight and give your team's dps a boost. It is actually, in a round about way, the job of the dps to provide the healing because the healing orbs drop off the bosses each time they loose a bar of health. It creates a very interesting group dynamic.

    Also, it is worth noting that lightbinders do very well in pvp from what I hear. pvp is just not my thing.

    As for the alchemist. They are also great. A bit hard to play and get used to at first but if you give them some time to grow on you they become very engaging. And the reports from RU Skyforge are that the ideal 10 man raids will bring both a lightbinder and an alchemist. They complement one another very well.

    All die, so die well.

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,404

    Thanks so much to learn and you all are helping me a lot. 

     

    The secondary weapon slot the bonus do you have to click on something for it to work or is it automatic on the pommel. 

     

    Since you can't click anything on the hud while you are fighting I have had to bind everything .Hope I do not run out of binds and the quickslot the one where you use H is it just one thing in that place to use or can you cycle some things in that quickslot?

     

    Good to know about the support role sounds real fun VikingGamer.

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