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FFXIV ARR Vs SWTOR
Hi people. After playing various MMORPG I stopped at two FFXIV ARR and SWTOR. And people tell me the pros and cons of these games. Both liked, certainly not fully, each has its drawbacks, but overall a good MMORPG. The first thing I want to emphasize this in the games that used the raids were similar to WoW. In a game they are more difficult? The division into the tank, heal, dd I understand that there is in both games. The only thing that is not in poravilos FFXIV ARR is a slow battle system and lack of voice in the dialogue. SWTOR wins in this regard. Plus in SWTOR what an interesting storyline, but how at the highest level is played until I Do not Know. After 7 years of WoW want to dip themselves in a game and ask to help with the choice, I'm certainly more inclined to SWTOR, what do you advise?
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SWTOR is free to play. Try it out.
Swtor has the strongest stories, and the most interactive ones with its constant dialogue choices and different outcomes (FFXIV's only got voice acting for the main storyline, so it's not completely missing as assumed above), but FFXIV's probably the better game to go with if you want raids. Or at least so I keep hearing, but I never got far enough into it to participate in them.
Other than that both share a similar gameplay scheme as WoW (tab targetting, wasd, hotbars with abilities, etc...)
In the end it comes down to personal taste. Mine obviously lies with Swtor, but there are plenty of FFXIV fans on this board to make a case for that game.
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
^That also works in its favor, yes. (Although FFXIV should have a free trial if I'm not mistaken.)
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
I had fun once, it was terrible.
everyone knows the pros of both games. Lets see the cons...
XIV: cant swim.
SWTOR: cant swim, and EA.
XIV wins.
FFXIV has the stronger group game and one of the best crafting systems on the market. Its a mix of WoW style game play with a bit of old school thrown in.
SWtOR is a more casual game that requires a lot less commitment. It has a different leveling stories for each class. Its pure WoW style.
Also, the obvious: FFXIV is Final Fantasy style setting, SWtOR is Star Wars
Played both...All my votes to FFXIV...
The only pro of SWTOR is the lore and leveling story.
i dont know how hardcore are the raids in XIV and Swtor, but Swtor is the closest to WoW of the two games if thats what you are looking for the most.
I think "hardcore raiding like wow" is went down the way of the dodo
The last attempt on it was Wildstar and see how far they got with it - even after reduced the 40-man to 20-man.
For the question, both games have raids, but to do them "hardcore, living by the raid-calendar" and stuff... I don't think so. But of course maybe I'm wrong, never belonged to that (in)famous 10% of Sapience
You wont find a Korean grind in either game, but FFXIV will come closer to that than SWTOR will. Even then, only after you've exhausted all of your quests and are forced to grind fates and leaves to level additional classes, and even then I wouldn't classify it as a Korean grind, but rather just a grind. SWTOR in contrast has almost zero grind if you're a subscriber with 12 x Story XP. You can level all the way to 55 on just story missions. It's very easy to try all the classes at near max level without grinding.
PvP, you're not interested in, but if you wanted to try it as a cure for boredom when not raiding, then SWTOR wins this department hands down. There is raiding in SWTOR, and it's decent. However, FFXIV (by far) has the better raiding scene in terms of raid quality and in player activity. If raiding is your highest consideration, then I would suggest FFXIV.
One other thing. You haven't mentioned what type of player you are, so just a bit of advice. If you're more a solo player that makes use of the group finder for end-game activities, then FFXIV seems to do a better job on the group focused content at end game using the Duty Finder. If you're the one to join a guild and use it exclusively for content, then either game will do just fine. If lockouts and content gates bother you, then FFXIV will frustrate you.
OK, I've talked enough. At the end of it all, the story can't be beat with SWTOR, but I would classify FFXIV as the best overall MMO out there at the moment for total package. Both games are great. One is free to play, and the other has a free trial, so just pick one and try it. See where it goes.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
You seem confused sir, he said cons, not pros.
Also, the outfits are your choice and you don't know what the hell grinding is if you think FFXIV is a grinder.
Pros and cons:
Swtor: Good story, unique story for 8 classes, horrible F2p model good it's free but you get slower content updates, unqiue companions assigned to each class, decent pvp, no native controller support whether it's a pro or con is up to you
FFXIV: Good story, mostly unique story for like 11 battle classes and 8 crafting classes, p2p no free ride here but gets the fastest content updates in the genre, chocobo companion, pvp but not great, chocobo racing, gold saucer casino, awesome crafting,
fates sort of like gw2 dynamic events, native controller support whether it's a pro or con is up to you.
Swtor has Normal, Hardmode & Nightmare raiding. (it's pretty much the same as WoW in difficulty)
FFXIV i dont know but probably something similar.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
Both games are rewarding if you have the patience and put the time in. In that respect, you could almost boil the decision down to setting preference, quirky Japanesey fantasy setting with FF references thrown in or a Star Wars setting.
After playing all three games a fair bit, coming from WoW, I'd definitely say you'd feel more at home in SWTOR. The story will blow you away and can be appreciated from the very start while FF's story takes a long time to really build momentum. Combat wise SWTOR will feel more familiar with it's fast pace from the start while FF's starts off extremely S-L-O-W and boring up until you get into your 40s where the pace picks up. At end game though, FF's combat feels far more advanced with it's rotations making WoW look like a child's game.
FF ARR patience will be key to get the most enjoyment imho. If you have the patience, you'll be rewarded however SWTOR you'll feel rewarded from the get go.
I've played both.. TOR twice for 2months at launch and another month or so later on. FFXIV i just started about 3 weeks ago.
Similarities:
Both games have terribad spamtastic heavily GCD-reliant combat systems. I guess this is the bane of most newer MMOs and many people don't mind it. Still putting it out there.
Both games have a strong (but obviously very different) central story that you have to follow.
TOR:
It's star wars. So no matter how bad the game is, at the end of the day you're still a jedi (or something) running around with a lightsaber. Which already is more than many games can offer. I'm a huge star wars fan, so stuck with it for this reason.
My main issue with TOR - mainly because i AM such a huge star wars fan and because i'm more than 12 years old - is that aside from "the story", there just isn't much to the game. And while there is a LOT of story to be had, the story quality ranges from "somewhat bad" to "completely asinine". It's horribly written, contradicts both itself and the greater SW lore at every turn and makes no sense whatsoever with the rest of the world around. For a game where the story is the main draw, I needed the story to be better.
The graphics were largely /meh as well.
FFXIV
FF also has a main story. And it's also a cliche-wridden mess, but it does get rather epic at times and sweeps you along. Unlike TOR, the story of FFXIV is fully integrated with the rest of the game and makes sense with the rest of it.
Also unlike SWTOR, in FF you do not have to go hub-to-hub and do every single quest to level up. (The way you do in TOR). In FF, Hub-to-hub questing is available, but largely unnecessary. At any given time there are 10 different paths to be going down in terms of progression. So you can log in and do whatever you feel like and still progress.
One thing that really impressed me about FFXIV is that is designed with the modern gamer in mind. It has largely solved the problem of "empy lower level zones and dungeons" that plague other games. By making it so that every character can level up multiple classes on the same character, it has creatred an environment where everyone SIMULTANEOUSLY has a level 50 and a level 20 and level 7 (or w/e) character and can always do something useful on one of them. To add to this, the game has very good systems that encourage ALL characters to do ALL dungeons (they are automatically scaled to do lower content), which means that even as a newbie starting 2 years (or longer?) after launch, it took me less than 5 minutes to find groups for level 10 (or 15 or 22 or 30) dungeons that i needed groups for. This is totally refreshing after some of the wastelands that other MMOs tend to become at lower level. There are even bonuses given to people for having a dungeon newbie in the group - which makes it so people are actually happy to see a first-timer.
Graphics are gorgeous , although character creation options are surprisingly limited.
COmbat (as mentioned) is pretty bland and boring. For the first 30 levels or so (on the 3 classes i've tried so far), you're just pressing 1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3 with an occasional 4.
Still, the game's variety of things to do and ability to do any content you may have missed has me playing it a lot.
Oh and regarding levelling - there is ZERO grind in FFXIV (unless you want to grind). Just following along the main questline got me to level 50 in about 2 weeks of play. This with doing barely any side-quests (of which there are TONS!). But as i said, there are TONS of ways to level, so if you don't feel like questing, there are other fun things to do for good xp.
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Very good post overall.. but I kinda chuckled at this. I'm not sure if you intended it to come across this way, but it basically sounds like you're saying that SWTOR has something "More than other MMOs can offer" because you're a Jedi running around with a lightsaber. As a point of fact, it's totally accurate. You'd fully expect to see Jedi running around with lightsabers in a Star Wars game. But to say it's "more than other games can offer" is kinda silly, and a rather unfair qualification.
Basically, you're saying SWTOR offers more than non-Star Wars games, by virtue of being set in the Star Wars universe, with things you'd only find in the Star Wars universe.
You're basically saying other games are less for not being Star Wars - as in, something they're not supposed to be.
In a nutshell, "SWTOR offers more than other games, because it has Jedi and Lightsabers, and others don't".
That's like saying "In Super Mario World, you control an Italian plumber, running around in a large world, collecting coins, jumping on Goombas and saving Princess Toadstool. Which already is more than many games can offer".
Do you see why that's a silly remark to make?
Silly? Yes. Also true? Yes.
But yes, basically the main reason to play Star Wars (TOR) is because it's Star Wars.
As opposed to being a good game. On the other hand, the main reason to play FFXIV (which is also part of a massive IP) isn't "because it's Final Fantasy". I've only ever played one other FF game and hated it. Yet the mechanics and other things in FFXIV are still attractive to me.
You COULD say that about super mario, but you'll find that "the opportunity to be play as an italian plumber" - while unique - isn't really a draw to the game. While an opportunity to play a Jedi is. The same argument CAN be made about other games with strong IPs though (for example, the best reason to play STO is beause it's Star Trek, not because it's a particularly good game).
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
SWTOR is a much more modern game that is made by Bioware, while FFXIV is more of a conservative game that is stick to the cookie cutter MMO recipe.
Someone says don't buy it because it's EA OMG! But you know what all companies are capitalistic in nature it is a buisness not a gift to players they work for this to happen and they wan't to make money. Not that Square is any better they are all just companies wanting to make good fortune on their products.
FFXIV's characters that you can play are the usual pretty boys and girls everthing is shining and it makes me puke. I'm not a racist on asian but I don't like their somewhat conservative games. Not that western can't be conservative just look at LOTRO, EQ2 and WoW.
Bioware has alot of good games out there and everyone can enjoy them. I mean in SWTOR there is a whole planet of homosexuals only and overall the message they send is a much more possitive.
Like someone says SWTOR has much better stories. FFXIV is a terribad on the story depatment. FFXIV has almost got as trivial stories as ESO and that is saying something. You don't wan't stories that has been heard all over for a millions of times. OMG the queen is in danger they are planning to murder OMG haven't we heard that one before?
As of right now the games most played in the west in no order are: FFXIV, SWTOR, WOW, TERA, RIFT, LINEAGE 2, ESO.
But if you do FFXIV better then it's good for you. FFXIV looks very nice overall and has some amazing landscapes and areas, though some textures looks like a psone game, but the one character build to rule them all turns me off. There really isn't alot of uniqueness of your character.