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Derek Smart's 'New' List of Demands

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  • jcrg99jcrg99 Member UncommonPosts: 723
    Originally posted by Erillion
    Originally posted by jcrg99
    The problem is that Roberts and Sandi are just looking for easy money regardless consequences.

    You became a reader of minds recently ? Impressive ! A rare talent.

    Would you share with us your insight why Chris Roberts and Sandi Gardiner would do all that for "easy money" ?

    I suggest another possible motive:  Chris Roberts tries to create "the perfect space game" for the last 20 years. Money - he already has that. Fame - he already has that. The "perfect" act of creation is an elusive thing for any artist ... and as a game designer he is in a way an artist. I suspect that motive may also hold true for Sandi Gardiner.  And to be mentioned in the Guiness Book of Records is also a nice thing.

     

    Have fun

    No. Im a reader o actions. You are a reader of speech, and pretty much, out of reality.

     

     

  • jcrg99jcrg99 Member UncommonPosts: 723
    Originally posted by Shodanas
    Originally posted by jcrg99
     
    No. Its not. They crossed the line and lied that he did that in the CIG forums. If you can't understand that, the implications of that, you have less than 12.
    Sandi is not the reason of the "success" of SC but will be the reason to his fall. Erin is a nice guy. Actually i recommended that he became the ceo earlier. My opinion. But still would need more help, of other guys of the same level of Alex and others. The problem is that Roberts and Sandi are just looking for easy money regardless consequences.

     

    You're one sad little person full of self entitlement, hate and spite. With no real arguments, no evidential facts now you decent to the lowest level attacking people on a personal level.I

    I treated the person in the same way that he treated me. Funny that you missed that.

    For the rest, bs.

    Everyone knows the evidences. At least everyone who cares

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • jcrg99jcrg99 Member UncommonPosts: 723
    Originally posted by jcrg99
    Originally posted by Erillion
    Originally posted by jcrg99
    The problem is that Roberts and Sandi are just looking for easy money regardless consequences.

    You became a reader of minds recently ? Impressive ! A rare talent.

    Would you share with us your insight why Chris Roberts and Sandi Gardiner would do all that for "easy money" ?

    I suggest another possible motive:  Chris Roberts tries to create "the perfect space game" for the last 20 years. Money - he already has that. Fame - he already has that. The "perfect" act of creation is an elusive thing for any artist ... and as a game designer he is in a way an artist. I suspect that motive may also hold true for Sandi Gardiner.  And to be mentioned in the Guiness Book of Records is also a nice thing.

     

    Have fun

     

     

    No. Im a reader of actions. You are a reader of speech, and pretty much, out of reality.

     

     

     

  • HairysunHairysun Member UncommonPosts: 1,059

    It has been so long I had forgotten the rabidity of this place.  Curiously enough however there is nothing on any of Reddits subforums that pertain to Star Citizen, about this.  ZERO.  Which kinda surprised me ..... way in bed with them apparently.  Very, very little on the main SC forums as well.  I found an occasional reference to DS but no discussion on the subject.  I view that as damage control.

     

    Had I not popped in here I would be none the wiser as to all the drama.  Having said that I can't help but feel Derek Smart has ulterior motives other than securing the use of his $250.  Regardless, does he have a right to voice them?  Sure, why not?  Does he have a right to make demands as he did?  Sure, but I would have responded the same way Chris Roberts did which was pretty much FU. 

    In addition to that, I feel this is all a little premature.  A game of this proportion will take an incredible amount of time to create.  Chris Roberts puts out frequent updates on the progress and I'm "OK" with it thus far.  I've been with it since the beginning.  A game needs time and money if anything to create.  It seems they have the money ...... they need the time.

     

    However, I would like to add, the constant infux of ships to purchase has left me somewhat disgusted.  I signed up so a little indie company could avoid dealing with a publisher.  The little indie company has turned into a multi-national powerhouse corporation (not quite, but, you get the point).  I don't think anyone could have predicted this.  Any business man knows you just don't reach a point and say "Ok, I've got too much money."  It is the nature of business, money in the bank is a good thing.  So I am pulled on this whole never ending ship sales.  On the consumer end it disgusts me, on the business end, not so much.  

     

    In another month all this will be forgotten and the debate will be whether the female characters in the FPS modules boobs are too big.  Again the fence will be a razor blade and everyone falls on one side or the other whether they like it or not.  Silly ....

     

    ~Hairysun

     

          

  • jcrg99jcrg99 Member UncommonPosts: 723
    Originally posted by Hairysun

    It has been so long I had forgotten the rabidity of this place.  Curiously enough however there is nothing on any of Reddits subforums that pertain to Star Citizen, about this.  ZERO.  Which kinda surprised me ..... way in bed with them apparently.  Very, very little on the main SC forums as well.  I found an occasional reference to DS but no discussion on the subject.  I view that as damage control.

     True. They hide that from the eyes of "ship buyers" as more as they can.

    Had I not popped in here I would be none the wiser as to all the drama.  Having said that I can't help but feel Derek Smart has ulterior motives other than securing the use of his $250.  Regardless, does he have a right to voice them?  Sure, why not?  Does he have a right to make demands as he did?  Sure, but I would have responded the same way Chris Roberts did which was pretty much FU. 

    You could respond that in private, for your own sake. Responding in public in the way that they did, is not good and feed people with more evidences of their bad faith attitude, and customer disrespect.

    Derek Smart never asked his money back, by the way. And yes, he had other motives to do that. He made that very clear in his artciles, haven't you read them?

    In addition to that, I feel this is all a little premature.  A game of this proportion will take an incredible amount of time to create.  Chris Roberts puts out frequent updates on the progress and I'm "OK" with it thus far.  I've been with it since the beginning.  A game needs time and money if anything to create.  It seems they have the money ...... they need the time.

    No. It's not. The game should be released in the two-year time period:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen

    "Can you explain the stretch goals?

    The purpose of the higher stretch goals is to ensure that the game-as-described is finished in the two year time period."

     

    However, I would like to add, the constant infux of ships to purchase has left me somewhat disgusted.  I signed up so a little indie company could avoid dealing with a publisher.  The little indie company has turned into a multi-national powerhouse corporation (not quite, but, you get the point).  I don't think anyone could have predicted this.  Any business man knows you just don't reach a point and say "Ok, I've got too much money."  It is the nature of business, money in the bank is a good thing.  So I am pulled on this whole never ending ship sales.  On the consumer end it disgusts me, on the business end, not so much.  

     I am not adding anything here, because its your opinion and its fair.

    In another month all this will be forgotten and the debate will be whether the female characters in the FPS modules boobs are too big.  Again the fence will be a razor blade and everyone falls on one side or the other whether they like it or not.  Silly ....

    Nope. Anything that they did was ever forgotten for those who cares. But there is a time to move. And you should give them a chance. They screwed with that chance. Now, people are on the move. Too late. But no doubt, the ship buyers, the usual ones, will "forget" all this, depending of the velocity of some things that are in its path to happen. They "forgot" things that happened 1 hour ago, if the reason is to protect Roberts ego. It can even motivate to the usual ones, to buy even more ships... Good for Roberts (that no doubt will have means to escape with a good chunk for him by some shady tactics) and better for the United States Government. These people are now donating to Roberts pockets, Obama and Derek Smart (which will get some indemnities too: "Thanks Ben", he probably says).

    ~Hairysun  

     

  • FarScapeFarScape Member UncommonPosts: 185
    Originally posted by jcrg99
    Originally posted by Hairysun

    It has been so long I had forgotten the rabidity of this place.  Curiously enough however there is nothing on any of Reddits subforums that pertain to Star Citizen, about this.  ZERO.  Which kinda surprised me ..... way in bed with them apparently.  Very, very little on the main SC forums as well.  I found an occasional reference to DS but no discussion on the subject.  I view that as damage control.

     True. They hide that from the eyes of "ship buyers" as more as they can.

    Had I not popped in here I would be none the wiser as to all the drama.  Having said that I can't help but feel Derek Smart has ulterior motives other than securing the use of his $250.  Regardless, does he have a right to voice them?  Sure, why not?  Does he have a right to make demands as he did?  Sure, but I would have responded the same way Chris Roberts did which was pretty much FU. 

    You could respond that in private, for your own sake. Responding in public in the way that they did, is not good and feed people with more evidences of their bad faith attitude, and customer disrespect.

    Derek Smart never asked his money back, by the way. And yes, he had other motives to do that. He made that very clear in his artciles, haven't you read them?

    In addition to that, I feel this is all a little premature.  A game of this proportion will take an incredible amount of time to create.  Chris Roberts puts out frequent updates on the progress and I'm "OK" with it thus far.  I've been with it since the beginning.  A game needs time and money if anything to create.  It seems they have the money ...... they need the time.

    No. It's not. The game should be released in the two-year time period:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen

    "Can you explain the stretch goals?

    The purpose of the higher stretch goals is to ensure that the game-as-described is finished in the two year time period."

     

    However, I would like to add, the constant infux of ships to purchase has left me somewhat disgusted.  I signed up so a little indie company could avoid dealing with a publisher.  The little indie company has turned into a multi-national powerhouse corporation (not quite, but, you get the point).  I don't think anyone could have predicted this.  Any business man knows you just don't reach a point and say "Ok, I've got too much money."  It is the nature of business, money in the bank is a good thing.  So I am pulled on this whole never ending ship sales.  On the consumer end it disgusts me, on the business end, not so much.  

     I am not adding anything here, because its your opinion and its fair.

    In another month all this will be forgotten and the debate will be whether the female characters in the FPS modules boobs are too big.  Again the fence will be a razor blade and everyone falls on one side or the other whether they like it or not.  Silly ....

    Nope. Anything that they did was ever forgotten for those who cares. But there is a time to move. And you should give them a chance. They screwed with that chance. Now, people are on the move. Too late. But no doubt, the ship buyers, the usual ones, will "forget" all this, depending of the velocity of some things that are in its path to happen. They "forgot" things that happened 1 hour ago, if the reason is to protect Roberts ego. It can even motivate to the usual ones, to buy even more ships... Good for Roberts (that no doubt will have means to escape with a good chunk for him by some shady tactics) and better for the United States Government. These people are now donating to Roberts pockets, Obama and Derek Smart (which will get some indemnities too: "Thanks Ben", he probably says).

    ~Hairysun  

     LOL ok i have about enough of you, you have a the answer for everything dont you, also have to point out, where did they say anything about completeing this game in 2 years lol. you talk about how rabbit this site is which i dont disagree with you there, but youre no better then any other troll on this site bro. Calm down, give everyone working on SC a chance. Hell Rome wasn't built in a day. let alone any game being done from start to finish in 2 years LOL

     

  • jcrg99jcrg99 Member UncommonPosts: 723
    Check their Kickstarter page. If you get proud just because did not make your homework, thats not my problem, thats yours. And quickly moved to the name calling... interesring.
  • jcrg99jcrg99 Member UncommonPosts: 723
    I even shared the link to you, besides what they said. That was a curious reaction from your side. Im calm by the way.
  • Stormfire962Stormfire962 Member UncommonPosts: 65

    Smart - is nothing but a person who likes to make trouble.  I purchased his crappy 3000AD and the damn thing never worked right from the start.  Then fool pledges into SC and gets kicked out and his money refund and complains for no reason.  Instead he starts making unnecessary trouble for CIG and now I cannot help to wonder if Smart is doing this just to make a name for himself and gain whatever fame and fortune at the expense of us who have back the game.  If the he stop the development of SC then I say all us backers should file a class action lawsuit again Smart for put us backers through unnecessary stress and trying to steal our investment.  

  • Stormfire962Stormfire962 Member UncommonPosts: 65
    Originally posted by Warley
    1. You, and your wife, Sandra Roberts (aka Sandi Gardiner), should resign, effective immediately, and relinquish control of this company to an interim CEO.
     
    Who is Derek Smart to demand another company's founders to 'resign' that he has no stake in? In fact, you can argue he'd actually benefit from said company failing. Is anyone still taking this guy seriously at this point? Because, at this point, I'm starting to think he's both being a troll and trying to steal some of Star Citizen's spotlight.
     
    2. Using the same rules you used to refund my pledge, without my asking, you are toimmediately process refunds in the amount of $2,134,374 as per the initial Kickstarter crowd-funding effort for those who request it. Those who want to wait to see the end (my instinct, from what I know now, is telling me that the end is looking a lot like a catastrophic total loss of this project), are welcome to do that.
     
    He's basing this all on 'instinct' or 'gut feeling' when he has proven to have a track record of having no idea on how to create a good game; let alone a fully functional, AAA MMO. His own game was delayed by 3+ years and was in development for what appears to be twice as long as Star Citizen, and he's doing Early Access (you know, asking for pay before the game is complete) on Steam. Not to mention that his game, LoD, is sitting in Mostly Negative.
     
    3. Give backers the opportunity to hire an independent forensics accountant, and an executive producer, to audit the company records, and give an accurate picture of the financial health of the company, and it’s ability to complete, and deliver this project in a timely fashion. I hereby offer to foot the entire costs of this effort. And I will put up to $1m of my own money, in an escrow account of an attorney’s choosing, to be used as-needed for this exercise. I will pay this price to prove that I had every right to seek these answers. So this money can either go toward a good cause (righting this ship), or to attorneys who are most likely to burn it all down anyway.
     
    Here it is, folks. If this happens he'd be the majority stakeholder with the 'biggest' interest. This has hostile takeover written all over it. This man really is a vile, sleezy human being. It'll allow him to have a say in who'd be the CEO taking over; which then allows him to nominate himself.
     
    4. If you ignore this, the more time passes, the more articles that myself, and investigative media write, revealing what we know, the more likely it is that this will end in legal (someone suing someone, and opening the flood gates) action, thereby  forcing you all to come to court and answer these questions.
     
    Derek Smart, and investigative media, have no idea where the Star Citizen project is at, where the financial details are at, and neither of them have a right to these details for various, real, business reasons. Here is Derek Smart threatening to sue a company based upon 'instincts' and 'gut feeling', but has no tangible evidence.
     
    He's demonstrated again and again that he doesn't have the ability to properly implement such things as AI, controls (leading to poor UX experience), and handling things such as PR. But, wants to use his gut feelings on a project on the scale of Star Citizen with team members that worked on games that are far better than anything he's done.
     
    He's gone from being a backer with some legitimate concerns to a clear & hostile threat to the project.
     
    You know what you stated here is more then enough for us backers to file a class action lawsuit against Smart for unnecessary stress and pain he is put on us backers.  He does not realize he is string more trouble for himself then anyone else.  He better think before he acts.

     

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    Originally posted by Stormfire962
    Originally posted by Warley
    1. You, and your wife, Sandra Roberts (aka Sandi Gardiner), should resign, effective immediately, and relinquish control of this company to an interim CEO.
     
    Who is Derek Smart to demand another company's founders to 'resign' that he has no stake in? In fact, you can argue he'd actually benefit from said company failing. Is anyone still taking this guy seriously at this point? Because, at this point, I'm starting to think he's both being a troll and trying to steal some of Star Citizen's spotlight.
     
    2. Using the same rules you used to refund my pledge, without my asking, you are toimmediately process refunds in the amount of $2,134,374 as per the initial Kickstarter crowd-funding effort for those who request it. Those who want to wait to see the end (my instinct, from what I know now, is telling me that the end is looking a lot like a catastrophic total loss of this project), are welcome to do that.
     
    He's basing this all on 'instinct' or 'gut feeling' when he has proven to have a track record of having no idea on how to create a good game; let alone a fully functional, AAA MMO. His own game was delayed by 3+ years and was in development for what appears to be twice as long as Star Citizen, and he's doing Early Access (you know, asking for pay before the game is complete) on Steam. Not to mention that his game, LoD, is sitting in Mostly Negative.
     
    3. Give backers the opportunity to hire an independent forensics accountant, and an executive producer, to audit the company records, and give an accurate picture of the financial health of the company, and it’s ability to complete, and deliver this project in a timely fashion. I hereby offer to foot the entire costs of this effort. And I will put up to $1m of my own money, in an escrow account of an attorney’s choosing, to be used as-needed for this exercise. I will pay this price to prove that I had every right to seek these answers. So this money can either go toward a good cause (righting this ship), or to attorneys who are most likely to burn it all down anyway.
     
    Here it is, folks. If this happens he'd be the majority stakeholder with the 'biggest' interest. This has hostile takeover written all over it. This man really is a vile, sleezy human being. It'll allow him to have a say in who'd be the CEO taking over; which then allows him to nominate himself.
     
    4. If you ignore this, the more time passes, the more articles that myself, and investigative media write, revealing what we know, the more likely it is that this will end in legal (someone suing someone, and opening the flood gates) action, thereby  forcing you all to come to court and answer these questions.
     
    Derek Smart, and investigative media, have no idea where the Star Citizen project is at, where the financial details are at, and neither of them have a right to these details for various, real, business reasons. Here is Derek Smart threatening to sue a company based upon 'instincts' and 'gut feeling', but has no tangible evidence.
     
    He's demonstrated again and again that he doesn't have the ability to properly implement such things as AI, controls (leading to poor UX experience), and handling things such as PR. But, wants to use his gut feelings on a project on the scale of Star Citizen with team members that worked on games that are far better than anything he's done.
     
    He's gone from being a backer with some legitimate concerns to a clear & hostile threat to the project.
     
    You know what you stated here is more then enough for us backers to file a class action lawsuit against Smart for unnecessary stress and pain he is put on us backers.  He does not realize he is string more trouble for himself then anyone else.  He better think before he acts.

     

    Like he is worry about some nobody on mmorpg.com, plus you don't speak for all backers. I think he has your man CR running scare hence the turn around. 




  • Stormfire962Stormfire962 Member UncommonPosts: 65
    Originally posted by SavageHorizon
    Originally posted by Stormfire962
    Originally posted by Warley
    1. You, and your wife, Sandra Roberts (aka Sandi Gardiner), should resign, effective immediately, and relinquish control of this company to an interim CEO.
     
    Who is Derek Smart to demand another company's founders to 'resign' that he has no stake in? In fact, you can argue he'd actually benefit from said company failing. Is anyone still taking this guy seriously at this point? Because, at this point, I'm starting to think he's both being a troll and trying to steal some of Star Citizen's spotlight.
     
    2. Using the same rules you used to refund my pledge, without my asking, you are toimmediately process refunds in the amount of $2,134,374 as per the initial Kickstarter crowd-funding effort for those who request it. Those who want to wait to see the end (my instinct, from what I know now, is telling me that the end is looking a lot like a catastrophic total loss of this project), are welcome to do that.
     
    He's basing this all on 'instinct' or 'gut feeling' when he has proven to have a track record of having no idea on how to create a good game; let alone a fully functional, AAA MMO. His own game was delayed by 3+ years and was in development for what appears to be twice as long as Star Citizen, and he's doing Early Access (you know, asking for pay before the game is complete) on Steam. Not to mention that his game, LoD, is sitting in Mostly Negative.
     
    3. Give backers the opportunity to hire an independent forensics accountant, and an executive producer, to audit the company records, and give an accurate picture of the financial health of the company, and it’s ability to complete, and deliver this project in a timely fashion. I hereby offer to foot the entire costs of this effort. And I will put up to $1m of my own money, in an escrow account of an attorney’s choosing, to be used as-needed for this exercise. I will pay this price to prove that I had every right to seek these answers. So this money can either go toward a good cause (righting this ship), or to attorneys who are most likely to burn it all down anyway.
     
    Here it is, folks. If this happens he'd be the majority stakeholder with the 'biggest' interest. This has hostile takeover written all over it. This man really is a vile, sleezy human being. It'll allow him to have a say in who'd be the CEO taking over; which then allows him to nominate himself.
     
    4. If you ignore this, the more time passes, the more articles that myself, and investigative media write, revealing what we know, the more likely it is that this will end in legal (someone suing someone, and opening the flood gates) action, thereby  forcing you all to come to court and answer these questions.
     
    Derek Smart, and investigative media, have no idea where the Star Citizen project is at, where the financial details are at, and neither of them have a right to these details for various, real, business reasons. Here is Derek Smart threatening to sue a company based upon 'instincts' and 'gut feeling', but has no tangible evidence.
     
    He's demonstrated again and again that he doesn't have the ability to properly implement such things as AI, controls (leading to poor UX experience), and handling things such as PR. But, wants to use his gut feelings on a project on the scale of Star Citizen with team members that worked on games that are far better than anything he's done.
     
    He's gone from being a backer with some legitimate concerns to a clear & hostile threat to the project.
     
    You know what you stated here is more then enough for us backers to file a class action lawsuit against Smart for unnecessary stress and pain he is put on us backers.  He does not realize he is string more trouble for himself then anyone else.  He better think before he acts.

     

    Like he is worry about some nobody on mmorpg.com, plus you don't speak for all backers. I think he has your man CR running scare hence the turn around. 

    You really think so troll boy!

  • Pratt2112Pratt2112 Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    Originally posted by BloodyViking

    Been watching this debacle the last week wondering if the universe has gone absolutely insane.

     

    I was around the Horizon/Alganon trainwreck that Derek Smart caused back in the day. Horizon was a decent but unfinished game. But the manner Derek Smart sleazed his way inside the company and performed a hostile takeover was just....hard to describe in words.

    First, he was approached and asked to take on the project, by its investors, because D. Allen was botching the whole thing up. When someone comes in to do exactly what they were asked/invited to do... that's not a hostile takeover.

    The "trainwreck" was happening right out of the gate, long before Smart was even involved. Everyone watching, nevermind playing the game, could see it.

    If nothing else, he kept the train on the tracks and kept it going. They also released an expansion under his watch. Of course, you can still play it, right now, as we speak.

    You're talking nonsense here. Is it doing gangbusters and raking in bajillions of players and money? Nope. But it's up, running and playable - which is enough for those who enjoy the game they have.

    We'll see what becomes of the whole SC mess when the dust settles. But your rant about Alganon is pure fabrication.

  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 970
    Derek Smart is good for a laugh and that's about it.

    I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.

  • FarScapeFarScape Member UncommonPosts: 185
    Originally posted by jcrg99
    Check their Kickstarter page. If you get proud just because did not make your homework, thats not my problem, thats yours. And quickly moved to the name calling... interesring.

    lol there is nothing about a finished game in 2 years. they stated that in 20-22 mo their will be playable moduels which there are LOL 

  • mayito7777mayito7777 Member UncommonPosts: 768
    SC + am=????

    want 7 free days of playing? Try this

    http://www.swtor.com/r/ZptVnY

  • Stormfire962Stormfire962 Member UncommonPosts: 65

    Smart has gotten back his money and if any other backer feels the same way.  Ask for your money back and leave and in piece.  So the rest of us backers who care about the game can focus on it and get it done.  But you must promise us one small thing.  That when the game releases you do not come back whining and complaining that you were mislead in leaving in the first place.

  • nbtscannbtscan Member UncommonPosts: 862
    How can someone who has no stake in the game have any demands?
  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433

    Ridiculous demands indeed.

    But anything that puts a boot to the ass of CIG is a good thing.

    Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    Originally posted by Stormfire962

    Smart has gotten back his money and if any other backer feels the same way.  Ask for your money back and leave and in piece.  So the rest of us backers who care about the game can focus on it and get it done.  But you must promise us one small thing.  That when the game releases you do not come back whining and complaining that you were mislead in leaving in the first place.

    That would work better on the SC forums, unfortunately for you this is an open gaming forum.  So if you don't like what you are reading you can always run back to the official forums. 




  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130

    Challenge to Derek Smart:

    Put 1 million in escrow for investigation and $15 million in escrow which will be released to RSI should the investigation find no malfeasance. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,988
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk

    Challenge to Derek Smart:

    Put 1 million in escrow for investigation and $15 million in escrow which will be released to RSI should the investigation find no malfeasance. 

    You really want Smart  to have a $15 million dollar say in RSI? 

    Makes sense.

  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by MMOGamer71
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk

    Challenge to Derek Smart:

    Put 1 million in escrow for investigation and $15 million in escrow which will be released to RSI should the investigation find no malfeasance. 

    You really want Smart  to have a $15 million dollar say in RSI? 

    Makes sense.

    Nope, no strings, it's just turned over and he walks away. He's just so full of it that I'd really be interested to see if he'd ACTUALLY put up some real money. Otherwise why the hell would RSI even care? The community isn't as divided as he'd have you believe. Also, based on the fact that the SC PTU was just announced a couple days ago shows continued progress. If he really wants them to open their books then do it. If RSI doesn't open their books for a $15 million of no strings free money then maybe something is going on. If they do then I guess Derek Smart should swallow hard. 

    Crazkanuk

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    Durnzig - 90 Paladin - Emerald
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  • Superman0XSuperman0X Member RarePosts: 2,292

    Derek Smart has a very reasonable requests, with quite possibly reasonable accusations.... that is  buried under rhetoric. Lets look at his requests.

    Reasonable: #3

    If he honestly believes that there is fraud and malfeasance here, this is a totally reasonable offer/request.

     

    Unreasonable: #1, 2, 4

    Even if he thought that that #3 would find the proof that there has been inappropriate actions taken, it would not be reasonable to request #1 or #2 until the exact details were determined.

    #4 is just him crying for attention. It has nothing to do with this matter.

     

    I am honestly sorry that Mr Smart had to take this approach, as #3 could really have been a good thing for everyone... but by attaching other, totally unreasonable requirements, it just kills the possibility.

     

     

     

     

  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,988
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    Originally posted by MMOGamer71
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk

    Challenge to Derek Smart:

    Put 1 million in escrow for investigation and $15 million in escrow which will be released to RSI should the investigation find no malfeasance. 

    You really want Smart  to have a $15 million dollar say in RSI? 

    Makes sense.

    Nope, no strings, it's just turned over and he walks away. He's just so full of it that I'd really be interested to see if he'd ACTUALLY put up some real money. Otherwise why the hell would RSI even care? The community isn't as divided as he'd have you believe. Also, based on the fact that the SC PTU was just announced a couple days ago shows continued progress. If he really wants them to open their books then do it. If RSI doesn't open their books for a $15 million of no strings free money then maybe something is going on. If they do then I guess Derek Smart should swallow hard. 

    RSI isn't a charity.

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