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Windows 10 isn't worth the hassle atm

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  • MultibyteMultibyte Member UncommonPosts: 130
    I did not have any problems. I actually hesitated a lot at first thinking I should wait longer to allow issues to be ironed out. Then I succumbed to my curiosity and installed it. I have a GTX 660 video card and the Win 10 driver worked just fine.

    I've been using Win 10 for a few days and, so far, I am quite happy with it actually. However, others with different hardware may have issues I guess. It is still a very new release.
  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935
    Been on 10 since tech preview.  No issues here.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    edited August 2015
    I may have spoken too soon. I seem to have an issue with devices randomly cutting out:

    First it was my mouse, it just stopped dead while I was browsing the web - unplugging and replugging it in fixed it, it was just odd because nothing obvious occured that would have caused it.

    Then the media keys on my keyboard stopped. I had to actually move the keyboard to a new USB port to get it to work again

    Now my NIC was uninstalled and re-detected, and when it came back up, it now mysteriously can no longer receive packets. THis was similar, but not exactly the same as the NIC issue I had when I did the Windows 10 Upgrade - then it could send and receive, it just wouldn't talk to anything on the LAN for whatever reason.

    Nothing overclocked, nothing overheating, none of the usual suspects, the only thing I've changed on this computer since it was built has been to install Windows 10.

    I'm considering going back just so I can get my computer usable and without random hiccups, or maybe I wait it out until these bugs get squished... I'm pretty sure it's just new driver issues. I don't know what I'll do just yet. Probably depends on if I can get some form of networking back up apart from phone tether.. because without networking it's pretty useless to me.
  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    Day 17 of using Windows 10 - still way more awesome than my previous Windows 8.1 :)

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Ridelynn said:
    I may have spoken too soon. I seem to have an issue with devices randomly cutting out:

    First it was my mouse, it just stopped dead while I was browsing the web - unplugging and replugging it in fixed it, it was just odd because nothing obvious occured that would have caused it.

    Then the media keys on my keyboard stopped. I had to actually move the keyboard to a new USB port to get it to work again

    Now my NIC was uninstalled and re-detected, and when it came back up, it now mysteriously can no longer receive packets. THis was similar, but not exactly the same as the NIC issue I had when I did the Windows 10 Upgrade - then it could send and receive, it just wouldn't talk to anything on the LAN for whatever reason.

    Nothing overclocked, nothing overheating, none of the usual suspects, the only thing I've changed on this computer since it was built has been to install Windows 10.

    I'm considering going back just so I can get my computer usable and without random hiccups, or maybe I wait it out until these bugs get squished... I'm pretty sure it's just new driver issues. I don't know what I'll do just yet. Probably depends on if I can get some form of networking back up apart from phone tether.. because without networking it's pretty useless to me.
    Did you update the chipset drivers etc. to the latest WIN10 versions? My MB Mfg. (MSI) had new Win10 drivers ready to go for everything on release date - not the sort of drivers that Windows Update will do for you. Update seems to be aware of the Intel Rapid Storage tech driver and will update that but it doesn't go more low-level than that into MB-specific drivers. I also flashed to the latest BIOS prior to the update just to be on the same page, so to speak, as MSI support in case of problems but it all went well and I've had none.

    My problems were confined to the installation issues I detailed in this thread many pages ago. Other than that my system has been rock solid. I'm even getting a slightly better overclock at the same voltage settings, but that could be the new BIOS, new chipset drivers etc.

    I've had zero crashes or any weirdness since install.
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  • MadCoderOneMadCoderOne Member UncommonPosts: 220
    Windows 10 is great, period.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    You have a year to upgrade.   Let others work out the kinks/bugs and let developers start to really support it.

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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    Iselin said:
    Ridelynn said:
    I may have spoken too soon. I seem to have an issue with devices randomly cutting out:

    First it was my mouse, it just stopped dead while I was browsing the web - unplugging and replugging it in fixed it, it was just odd because nothing obvious occured that would have caused it.

    Then the media keys on my keyboard stopped. I had to actually move the keyboard to a new USB port to get it to work again

    Now my NIC was uninstalled and re-detected, and when it came back up, it now mysteriously can no longer receive packets. THis was similar, but not exactly the same as the NIC issue I had when I did the Windows 10 Upgrade - then it could send and receive, it just wouldn't talk to anything on the LAN for whatever reason.

    Nothing overclocked, nothing overheating, none of the usual suspects, the only thing I've changed on this computer since it was built has been to install Windows 10.

    I'm considering going back just so I can get my computer usable and without random hiccups, or maybe I wait it out until these bugs get squished... I'm pretty sure it's just new driver issues. I don't know what I'll do just yet. Probably depends on if I can get some form of networking back up apart from phone tether.. because without networking it's pretty useless to me.
    Did you update the chipset drivers etc. to the latest WIN10 versions? My MB Mfg. (MSI) had new Win10 drivers ready to go for everything on release date - not the sort of drivers that Windows Update will do for you. Update seems to be aware of the Intel Rapid Storage tech driver and will update that but it doesn't go more low-level than that into MB-specific drivers. I also flashed to the latest BIOS prior to the update just to be on the same page, so to speak, as MSI support in case of problems but it all went well and I've had none.

    My problems were confined to the installation issues I detailed in this thread many pages ago. Other than that my system has been rock solid. I'm even getting a slightly better overclock at the same voltage settings, but that could be the new BIOS, new chipset drivers etc.

    I've had zero crashes or any weirdness since install.
    Yeah, all the latest drivers from Asus. Nothing in my system highlights as unrecognized or not having a valid driver installed.

    I can get the NIC to talk to other computers if I direct connect, and I've verified the cable works, but for some reason it just doesn't want to play well with my router - it randomly refuses to talk to it for some reason.

    Now it could be I have hardware failing, but there are a lot of other devices on this router with no problem, and this particular computer never had an issue with dropping devices before Windows 10.

    One of those odd mysteries of life right now. There is a BIOS update for my motherboard, although the notes only list Broadwell compatibility as the changes... so I don't know if that will have any effect or not.
  • unfilteredJWunfilteredJW Member RarePosts: 398
    What hassle?

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    @Ridelynn ;

    Well that sucks. Getting your rig purring, especially with a new OS is a hobby unto itself lol. Luckily some of us geeks actually enjoy that :)

    I'd focus on the NIC driver. IDK which one your MB uses but I had some issues with mine way back when I first built my rig. My MSI MB, Z87 - G65, uses the Killer Network drivers. At one point the WIN8 driver from MSI had issues and I went straight to the Killer Network page and used their slightly different driver instead which solved my problems. Luckily MSI's latest WIN10 - 64 driver works fine now.
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    Updated BIOS - NIC and all devices worked through 3 cold reboots, and all was good. Left PC running to go work outside some

    Come back, display driver crashes on wake up and NIC is out again. But on the bright side I haven't had any USB wierdness again (yet).

    My motherboard has an Intel NIC, and there are both a Microsoft default driver and an updated driver from Intel for WIndows 10 - does it with both, so I think I'm waiting for an update. That or there is some obscure setting in the networking stack somewhere that is preventing me from seeing the IPv4 LAN even with a static IP configured.

    Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle, but I figured out i can always get it to connect if I tunnel through my Macbook (for whatever reason). If I try to go straight to my router, it's hit or miss (and more misses than hits). So yeah, I expect some hiccups - a lot of people aren't having them, which is great. I don't mind so much on this machine, because it's just for gaming. And it gives me some experience for when the first computer at work converts to it.

    So yeah, I admit I'm an early adopter. I'm not so much complaining as I am just letting people know. I'm a bit more patient about it now that I've found a reliable work-around (I'm just scratching my head as to why it doesn't work though). My wife is holding off after seeing my computer issues. I can understand people jumping on board, and those that want to wait for a bit.

    When it does run, I do like the new start menu and it does seem pretty snappy. I'm still getting used to the three different control panels (well, one is Control Panel, and the other is Settings, and then the third is the Administrator Computer Management, and they aren't very well integrated) - Win8 did that poorly as well, but now it's a bit more spread out than it was before.
  • zytinzytin Member UncommonPosts: 202
    Ridelynn said:
    Updated BIOS - NIC and all devices worked through 3 cold reboots, and all was good. Left PC running to go work outside some

    Come back, display driver crashes on wake up and NIC is out again. But on the bright side I haven't had any USB wierdness again (yet).

    My motherboard has an Intel NIC, and there are both a Microsoft default driver and an updated driver from Intel for WIndows 10 - does it with both, so I think I'm waiting for an update. That or there is some obscure setting in the networking stack somewhere that is preventing me from seeing the IPv4 LAN even with a static IP configured.

    Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle, but I figured out i can always get it to connect if I tunnel through my Macbook (for whatever reason). If I try to go straight to my router, it's hit or miss (and more misses than hits). So yeah, I expect some hiccups - a lot of people aren't having them, which is great. I don't mind so much on this machine, because it's just for gaming. And it gives me some experience for when the first computer at work converts to it.

    So yeah, I admit I'm an early adopter. I'm not so much complaining as I am just letting people know. I'm a bit more patient about it now that I've found a reliable work-around (I'm just scratching my head as to why it doesn't work though). My wife is holding off after seeing my computer issues. I can understand people jumping on board, and those that want to wait for a bit.

    When it does run, I do like the new start menu and it does seem pretty snappy. I'm still getting used to the three different control panels (well, one is Control Panel, and the other is Settings, and then the third is the Administrator Computer Management, and they aren't very well integrated) - Win8 did that poorly as well, but now it's a bit more spread out than it was before.
    I had an issue of connecting.  If I reset instead of shut down and start up, the problem comes back.  I have to disable my network, reset it, then turn off the computer and turn it back on, and it works.   The other issue I have is at one point my volume started changing and causing my screen to flash and beep.  I read this had to do with my keyboard g510s.  A shutdown and start up fixed this, too.
  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687
    Been running it for over a year on Tech Preview.. Switched to live version.. Love it.

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Was leery about installing, but so far 5 days in no issues.
  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,030
    edited August 2015
    Upgraded. Had to update Nvidia driver. My sound card is old (SoundBlaster x-fi) but still rocking with my system and the driver will be out for Win 10 in September so have to use my TV or headset for now.

    Other than that it is rock solid. Just turn off all the crap which Microsoft made vastly easier to find. Nothing hidden and everything accessible right from the new start menu. You can even uninstall apps right from the all apps panel! 1-2 click file source and access to services is amazing.

    The basic apps provided offer pretty much all you need short of professional applications. Obviously everyone still has access to all the open source and 3rd party applications something like IOS doesn't allow (to anywhere near the degree).

    The improvements to quality of life for administration is damn nice! I love it. I can access nearly all the systems tools in about 1 to 2 clicks from multiple sources. Improved mouse tools were added so I can do nearly anything with mouse if I don't want a clunky keyboard around, especially on media systems. Of course command line works every bit as well if not better due to improved search features using real words instead of having to remember all the short versions.

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  • ImperilImperil Member UncommonPosts: 28
    I just rolled back to Windows 7 for now after trying to use 10 for a few days. I'll definitely go back to Windows 10 once the drivers are in a better place. Unfortunately my NIC wouldn't work at all so I had to use wireless... which I could live with... but the system wouldn't sleep automatically which I need since it wakes to perform tasks at night and I want it to go back to sleep after that.

    Will definitely revisit in the future.
  • nesteanestea Member UncommonPosts: 30
    I've been using Windows 10 for about 2 weeks now.  So far, I've not had a single problem.

    The only game i've found that I just cannot get to run under 10 at all, is Saints Row IV (which is not something I play all that often anyway).

    It took a bit to upgrade, but that's because I had to update Windows 8 to 8.1 and get specific updates that windows 10 upgrade needed. Ended up taking less than 6 hours for everything to be settled. I was kinda scared about my nvidia drivers, but I found no issues at all. Rebooted once after install everything was running perfectly.

    Whoever said Windows 10 is a resource hog...but X runs my games better & faster than 8.1 did on fresh installs. Hell, I was running World of Warcraft on ultra at 75 FPS, now I'm running at around 90-98 FPS, TESO is about the same. Wildstar Online as well. Skyforge runs better as well.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    nestea said:

    Whoever said Windows 10 is a resource hog...but X runs my games better & faster than 8.1 did on fresh installs. Hell, I was running World of Warcraft on ultra at 75 FPS, now I'm running at around 90-98 FPS, TESO is about the same. Wildstar Online as well. Skyforge runs better as well.
    That surprised me too. I noticed the FPS increase in ESO as well as faster loading screens. Bonus!.
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  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    goboygo said:
    The problems you describe are for people that actually have nice computers, gaming computers, with stand alone video and sound cards, Win 10 is having problems with those.   Its been that way for everyone I know with a high end gaming rig, they had exactly the same problems you described with audio and video.  Win 10 is designed for people with on-board audio and video, you know cookie cutter Dells and laptops.  Your right its really just a win 8 damage control OS with better driver compatibility for generic PC's, gamer's were left out of compatibility testing..  But high end gaming PC's don't make up the majority of computers so most people don't care.
    Way the go to show how elitist and clueless you are. Do you believe in Santa Claus too? What's your sample size? 1? Aka you? Or you never even tried it so your sample is reading stuff on the Internet?

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  • dllddlld Member UncommonPosts: 615
    Only Issue I had was having to reinstall my graphic card drivers after the upgrade so far.
  • MagikarpsGhostMagikarpsGhost Member RarePosts: 689
    Upgraded, and honestly no issues here. in fact im loving it.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    I've done 3 upgrades so far as I roll it across my company.  Some issues have been experienced, like the "preparing your PC" issue when upgrading.  Usually a simple restart fixes that.  Some issues have been with drivers being pushed to PCs that weren't ideal for them.  The hardware would work -- such as the video card, but it would have performance issues until a new driver was installed my the manufacturer.  Those PCs were older though. 

    For the most part its been an easy process and everyone seems to really like the new OS.



  • NebirothNebiroth Member UncommonPosts: 21
    In my opinion - very good OS. 
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    People who upgrade to a new version of Windows before the first service pack has been released are silly silly people.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I have not liked a single windows since W95,imo it should have stopped there.The only thing i accept is newer .dll for the game designers,you know better physics and all but as for simple windows operation,give me Win95 any day.
    You know owe used to have to struggle with floppy startup discs to free up memory,but guess what,we didn't have much memory back then.Now we have 8/16/32 and still our systems struggle with all the crap that is loaded into system.

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