Do You Like Slow Or Fast Leveling ?

Baitness

If you do not like levelling, the solution is not fast levelling.  The solution is a horizontal focus on character progression.  Fast levelling makes grouping while levelling impossible, makes levelling dungeons worthless, and makes gear upgrades while levelling nearly pointless.

I understand why they are doing it with SWTOR (to let players skip the loads of crappy content and do only the interesting content) but it is a bandaid there, covering the greater issue of the crappy side quests.  It is still not the most desirable approach.

If you are going to have levelling, it has to be slow to avoid ruining the rest of the game.

mgilbrtsn

I prefer slow leveling.  I like to get to 'know' my character then progress.  When I fast level, it seems like I'm rushing.

Phry

Baitness said:

If you do not like levelling, the solution is not fast levelling.  The solution is a horizontal focus on character progression.  Fast levelling makes grouping while levelling impossible, makes levelling dungeons worthless, and makes gear upgrades while levelling nearly pointless.

I understand why they are doing it with SWTOR (to let players skip the loads of crappy content and do only the interesting content) but it is a bandaid there, covering the greater issue of the crappy side quests.  It is still not the most desirable approach.

If you are going to have levelling, it has to be slow to avoid ruining the rest of the game.

Actually, how SW;TOR handles it is pretty good, you can't over level, and if you go back to a 'low level' planet, you are automatically downlevelled to the appropriate level anyway, its actually pretty good, and i like how it works, it also means that 'high level' players can help out newer players without issue, win - win.

steeldragonz

For me it isnt so much the speed of the leveling, but that the gameplay is developing my character. I don't mean just more stats, but skills and new ways to use/mod/develop those skills. The moment im just playing for "gear" or grinding just for a "title/achievement" or basic meaningless stats, the grind becomes boring.

This is why i have had serious issue enjoying any mmo in the last few years not much has been released since TSW that really makes continuous play [to a point] develop my char and keep me interested.

On the other hand stupid crap where you can max in 2-4 days isnt fun because usually it leads to pointless epeen pvp only endgame. 

AAAMEOW

There are some games the leveling is so slow, people can play 10 hours a day and still can't reach max level.

Vermillion_Raventhal

Phry said:

Baitness said:

If you do not like levelling, the solution is not fast levelling.  The solution is a horizontal focus on character progression.  Fast levelling makes grouping while levelling impossible, makes levelling dungeons worthless, and makes gear upgrades while levelling nearly pointless.

I understand why they are doing it with SWTOR (to let players skip the loads of crappy content and do only the interesting content) but it is a bandaid there, covering the greater issue of the crappy side quests.  It is still not the most desirable approach.

If you are going to have levelling, it has to be slow to avoid ruining the rest of the game.

Actually, how SW;TOR handles it is pretty good, you can't over level, and if you go back to a 'low level' planet, you are automatically downlevelled to the appropriate level anyway, its actually pretty good, and i like how it works, it also means that 'high level' players can help out newer players without issue, win - win.

You still have to ask why have vast vertical leveling.  All leveling is scaling numbers with generally low vertical progression in powers/abilities obtained.  Its not like you level up and are just overwhelmingly stronger than enemies.  The enemies are scaled to you.  Its largely an illusion.  

Lets say for example instead of leveling you just gained the powers.  All encounters are based around a single power level.  So you go quest and gain experience.  Instead of dinging a level you just get access to new powers and next rank powers but your hp and stats don't multiply.  It amounts to the same thing except you're not beholden to the level barriers.

nariusseldon

Define short and long.

Couple of days .. ok ... a week or two .. may be .. more than that .. i will play some other games. 

waynejr2

Vermillion_Raventhal said:

Phry said:

Baitness said:

If you do not like levelling, the solution is not fast levelling.  The solution is a horizontal focus on character progression.  Fast levelling makes grouping while levelling impossible, makes levelling dungeons worthless, and makes gear upgrades while levelling nearly pointless.

I understand why they are doing it with SWTOR (to let players skip the loads of crappy content and do only the interesting content) but it is a bandaid there, covering the greater issue of the crappy side quests.  It is still not the most desirable approach.

If you are going to have levelling, it has to be slow to avoid ruining the rest of the game.

Actually, how SW;TOR handles it is pretty good, you can't over level, and if you go back to a 'low level' planet, you are automatically downlevelled to the appropriate level anyway, its actually pretty good, and i like how it works, it also means that 'high level' players can help out newer players without issue, win - win.

You still have to ask why have vast vertical leveling.  All leveling is scaling numbers with generally low vertical progression in powers/abilities obtained.  Its not like you level up and are just overwhelmingly stronger than enemies.  The enemies are scaled to you.  Its largely an illusion.  

Lets say for example instead of leveling you just gained the powers.  All encounters are based around a single power level.  So you go quest and gain experience.  Instead of dinging a level you just get access to new powers and next rank powers but your hp and stats don't multiply.  It amounts to the same thing except you're not beholden to the level barriers.

Because horizontal leveling is for the LARPers who get put at outskirts of game conventions or have to play their LARPing at night at the hotel. 

Soki123

I might be odd, bur not only do I like slow leveling, but I like it super slow, like FFXI and DAOC were in the beginning.

Ridelynn

I never really cared about Level as a number.

I do like to see that I am (or rather, my character does) continuing to progress, evolve, get more powerful, however you would like to phrase it.

If that's via more hit points or more damage, ok. If it's with new abilities, ok. If it's something else entirely, ok. It's when I plateau out in a game and don't seem to be able to grow any further that I tend to get bored and quit a game.

Amana

This thread is months-old. Starting a new thread and quoting an old one is okay if you want to continue an old discussion, but not to necro old threads.