Not many pvp mmo games have been able to get a good system working which rewards progression but at the same time doesn't prevent newer characters from competing (and having fun) or require long pve grinds.
It's only my private opinion but as a player I think that Gloria Victis achieved it.
Private opinion?
You are one of the developers so that's hardly an unbiased opinion.
Maybe you should spend more time working on fixing your poor game designs instead of misleading the people here in the mmorpg.com community. See how lying and misleading potential players worked out for the CEO of Pathfinder, you seem to have taken a page from his book.
Gloria Victis is just another grind your life away mmo currently.
You are one of the developers so that's hardly an unbiased opinion.
Maybe you should spend more time working on fixing your poor game designs instead of misleading the people here in the mmorpg.com community. See how lying and misleading potential players worked out for the CEO of Pathfinder, you seem to have taken a page from his book.
Gloria Victis is just another grind your life away mmo currently.
Even though I am one of the developers, as a player I have my own opinions too.
You say that Gloria Victis design is poor and leads to countless grind, although you said that you know it only from friend who played only a while. I'm sorry for your frustration that Gloria Victis isn't just a Mortal Online clone, but simply don't accuse me for things I hadn't done. You say that I'm lying - of course, you can do it but only if you show a proof. You didn't.
I didn't say anyway that there is no leveling system, because there is. And you know what? As in every game, where there is any progression system, maximum available progression values (attribute points, skill points etc) can be calculated. Now, when they have been calculated, they can be simply divided - this way you can show those divided values and name them... huh, let it be [b]levels[/b] (and by the way - levels hadn't been invented by the Asian video game developers). Having levels doesn't mean that the character is more or less powerful, or that it can be overpowered at high level, or even that you have to grind mobs. I didn't see any mobs in Call of Duty multiplayer, even though you achieve levels. O.o So, what levels mean? That a player have a clear indicator of their character's - and it's not something that directly changes the gameplay, but makes the user experience better.
You say that I lie so for you I will be lying again, but in Gloria Victis players can be - and are - competitive without grinding for months, because after just few days their characters are good enough that they can win a fight against the endgame players, but only if they have skill, including an ability to select a proper equipment, fitting to the play style. People win fights because of good movement, timing, stamina management and tactics - not levels.
Final word - if you want to accuse me for lying, play the game first. Until then I see no reason to continue this conversation with you. Peace.
im play many time gloria victis. im one of the best pvp players now and now i have 82 lvl. on grinding mobs i get just 1-20lvl and i stop grinding. other 62 lvls i get from pvp conquests, killing bosses,crafting, achievements, or daily rewards(im just do what i want and i lvling, im juet play). Mob grinding is just if you want get recipe to crafting from mobs. Now you start game with 200hp and 200 stamina. in one hour you can get 300 hp and 300 stamina because on first lvls you need just 1 point to add charakter stats. On my lvl i need 3 points, i have +/- 470hp and 400 stamina, im hitting for 100 (1 lvl hitting with same weapon for 70) so if you can see lvl not change much.likenin real life you have poeple in good form or in bad form. many time i beat 100 lvl players with my 10lvl and weak gear alt character.
my opinion? game will be great.. now it is my one mmo what i play. in this moment pve is boring, pve players have to wait, but pvp is great, to win group battle you have to know war tactics (my favorite tactic it is spartan tactic, first line shieldwall and 2 line poeple behind shields hits with spears). cooperation is very important thing in game. if you are pvp player, if you have group or if you are crafter. you can play now. if you want pve, building system, if you want know plot or if you want better 1vs1 pvp combat, wait for updates.
sorry for my poor english
im play many time gloria victis. im one of the best pvp players now and now i have 82 lvl. on grinding mobs i get just 1-20lvl and i stop grinding. other 62 lvls i get from pvp conquests, killing bosses,crafting, achievements, or daily rewards(im just do what i want and i lvling, im juet play). Mob grinding is just if you want get recipe to crafting from mobs. Now you start game with 200hp and 200 stamina. in one hour you can get 300 hp and 300 stamina because on first lvls you need just 1 point to add charakter stats. On my lvl i need 3 points, i have +/- 470hp and 400 stamina, im hitting for 100 (1 lvl hitting with same weapon for 70) so if you can see lvl not change much.likenin real life you have poeple in good form or in bad form. many time i beat 100 lvl players with my 10lvl and weak gear alt character.
my opinion? game will be great.. now it is my one mmo what i play. in this moment pve is boring, pve players have to wait, but pvp is great, to win group battle you have to know war tactics (my favorite tactic it is spartan tactic, first line shieldwall and 2 line poeple behind shields hits with spears). cooperation is very important thing in game. if you are pvp player, if you have group or if you are crafter. you can play now. if you want pve, building system, if you want know plot or if you want better 1vs1 pvp combat, wait for updates.
sorry for my poor english
Sounds awesome, thanks for the post.
Just wondered, is there a place you can practice your pvp with friends without killing each other? Like a dueling area or something for players on the same faction/team?
Seriously people, why are you wasting time on this game? I can't believe how primitive it is at this stage. What a complete waste of money. Sometimes I swear people have extreme wishes to subject themselves to very mediocre game play.
If you want good pvp, this game is NOT it by a longshot. The devs just don't grasp the concept at all!
Seriously people, why are you wasting time on this game? I can't believe how primitive it is at this stage. What a complete waste of money. Sometimes I swear people have extreme wishes to subject themselves to very mediocre game play.
If you want good pvp, this game is NOT it by a longshot. The devs just don't grasp the concept at all!
Well, it is in an alpha state for one. Some people like to support some indie projects. The pvp had very little to do with the reason I backed it. The other planned mechanics seem quite interesting.
Yasha, yes is one instenced arena, you can go teleport, fight and teleport back to same place.
Ozmodan, im not waste of time, this game give me a lot of fun. PvP system isnt finished, they will add active skills and they will try add directional blocks, faints and more, but this will improved 1vs1 pvp. In group pvp no matter, you have directional blocks or active skills, you need good tactics and peolle with discipline. look at this We are with 3 people do shieldwall, 2 people behind us hit with long range weapons and we kill bigger group. In this game now you have better pvp than in other.
Of course not everytime you can find pvp, now in game dominate ismirs nation so sometimes is very hard to find midlanders, so i just enter game, check flags, if all flags is taken by ismirs, i go crafting, help new players or just logg off and play other game. But if some flags is taken by midlanders i go check this, if i will find some defenders i back to city, take warband and go to conquest.
Yasha, yes is one instenced arena, you can go teleport, fight and teleport back to same place.
Ozmodan, im not waste of time, this game give me a lot of fun. PvP system isnt finished, they will add active skills and they will try add directional blocks, faints and more, but this will improved 1vs1 pvp. In group pvp no matter, you have directional blocks or active skills, you need good tactics and peolle with discipline. look at this We are with 3 people do shieldwall, 2 people behind us hit with long range weapons and we kill bigger group. In this game now you have better pvp than in other.
Of course not everytime you can find pvp, now in game dominate ismirs nation so sometimes is very hard to find midlanders, so i just enter game, check flags, if all flags is taken by ismirs, i go crafting, help new players or just logg off and play other game. But if some flags is taken by midlanders i go check this, if i will find some defenders i back to city, take warband and go to conquest.
Says the guy who created a new forum account yesterday for the explicit reason to promote Gloria.
Take a look at this guys post history.
Sorry to blow up your guerilla marketing campaign Gloria Dev. You got busted misleading players on your main account and had to make a new one clearly.
I'm still here. I did not mislead anyone, because the progression system does not prevent the players from winning against the higher levels, so why should I create another account?
Sorry sir, missed shot again.
Yasha, yes is one instenced arena, you can go teleport, fight and teleport back to same place.
Ozmodan, im not waste of time, this game give me a lot of fun. PvP system isnt finished, they will add active skills and they will try add directional blocks, faints and more, but this will improved 1vs1 pvp. In group pvp no matter, you have directional blocks or active skills, you need good tactics and peolle with discipline. look at this We are with 3 people do shieldwall, 2 people behind us hit with long range weapons and we kill bigger group. In this game now you have better pvp than in other.
Of course not everytime you can find pvp, now in game dominate ismirs nation so sometimes is very hard to find midlanders, so i just enter game, check flags, if all flags is taken by ismirs, i go crafting, help new players or just logg off and play other game. But if some flags is taken by midlanders i go check this, if i will find some defenders i back to city, take warband and go to conquest.
Looks good; also looks hard to tell who is enemy and if you are hitting/damaging target (not necessarily a bad thing).
"Looks good; also looks hard to tell who is enemy and if you are hitting/damaging target (not necessarily a bad thing)."
In video it is hard to know, but in game you can see very good who is enemy, red nickname you can see very good. i can show you This is old patch, this player ambush 2 players who try cap flag using glitch
Or check this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=42&v=pAueTw0mPDE
battle saw from 1 line on old patch(but rednick same like in new patches)
or this
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You are one of the developers so that's hardly an unbiased opinion.
Maybe you should spend more time working on fixing your poor game designs instead of misleading the people here in the mmorpg.com community. See how lying and misleading potential players worked out for the CEO of Pathfinder, you seem to have taken a page from his book.
Gloria Victis is just another grind your life away mmo currently.
"Vidis Fodidis Est"
Even though I am one of the developers, as a player I have my own opinions too.
You say that Gloria Victis design is poor and leads to countless grind, although you said that you know it only from friend who played only a while. I'm sorry for your frustration that Gloria Victis isn't just a Mortal Online clone, but simply don't accuse me for things I hadn't done. You say that I'm lying - of course, you can do it but only if you show a proof. You didn't.
I didn't say anyway that there is no leveling system, because there is. And you know what? As in every game, where there is any progression system, maximum available progression values (attribute points, skill points etc) can be calculated. Now, when they have been calculated, they can be simply divided - this way you can show those divided values and name them... huh, let it be [b]levels[/b] (and by the way - levels hadn't been invented by the Asian video game developers). Having levels doesn't mean that the character is more or less powerful, or that it can be overpowered at high level, or even that you have to grind mobs. I didn't see any mobs in Call of Duty multiplayer, even though you achieve levels. O.o So, what levels mean? That a player have a clear indicator of their character's - and it's not something that directly changes the gameplay, but makes the user experience better.
You say that I lie so for you I will be lying again, but in Gloria Victis players can be - and are - competitive without grinding for months, because after just few days their characters are good enough that they can win a fight against the endgame players, but only if they have skill, including an ability to select a proper equipment, fitting to the play style. People win fights because of good movement, timing, stamina management and tactics - not levels.
Final word - if you want to accuse me for lying, play the game first. Until then I see no reason to continue this conversation with you. Peace.
Just wondered, is there a place you can practice your pvp with friends without killing each other? Like a dueling area or something for players on the same faction/team?
If you want good pvp, this game is NOT it by a longshot. The devs just don't grasp the concept at all!
Says the guy who created a new forum account yesterday for the explicit reason to promote Gloria.
Take a look at this guys post history.
Sorry to blow up your guerilla marketing campaign Gloria Dev. You got busted misleading players on your main account and had to make a new one clearly.