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Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
in Star Wars: The Old Republic
correct me if i am wrong, but is this expansion only available to people that are subbed?

so far it feels like the information about this "major" expansion is fairly minimal..

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

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  • JudgeUKJudgeUK Member RarePosts: 1,700
    edited October 2015
    This is from their faq:

    5.  Can I still get Knights of the Fallen Empire if I don’t have Rise of the Hutt Cartel or Shadow of Revan?
    All subscribers  will receive access to Rise of the Hutt Cartel and Shadow of Revan starting on October 27, 2015.
     
    6.  How do I pre-order Knights of the Fallen Empire?
    Knights of the Fallen Empire is not available for pre-order as it is free to all active subscribers . You must be an active subscriber to receive the expansion.

    Full list of questions here:
    http://www.swtor.com/support/helpcenter/7418
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    So only for subscribers.  I logged in today to my level 11 Shadow Sin and saw a little red flashing suit of armor above his avatar.  A mouse hover revealed that this weapon has to be activated in the crown store before it can be used.  I suspect activation requires payment of a fee.  Logged right out.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Iselin said:
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.
    This has been the payment model Anarchy Online has been usuing for over a decade. The base game and "Notum Wars" are F2P. Access to anything from "Shadowlands" through "Lost Eden" was for subscribers.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    GeezerGamer said:
    Iselin said:
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.
    This has been the payment model Anarchy Online has been usuing for over a decade. The base game and "Notum Wars" are F2P. Access to anything from "Shadowlands" through "Lost Eden" was for subscribers.
    Yeah. It's why I said "and a couple of others"... TSW does it too. But some of those games are not so much in the mainstream MMO gaming consciousness. So much so, that the ESO:TU model has been criticized for being a weird model even though it's not new.

    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    HAHA!
    Touche..
    Yeah, AO is on life support.
  • pingopingo Member UncommonPosts: 608
    This expansion will be given away for free when they make the next one, just as Shadow of Revan is being given away for free. 

    GW2 is doing the same thing. Game is F2P, expansion cost money. When next expansion comes out, this new expansion will be given for free. It's a way to stop people from being overwhelmed having to buy tons of games to keep up. It makes more sense to bundle and make money off the new content while giving the older stuff away for free.
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Iselin said:
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.
    If this forces developers to make more and better content... Kudos to the system..paying for games is not a bad thing, as long as there is enough content to play..

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    Lord.Bachus said:
    Iselin said:
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.
    If this forces developers to make more and better content... Kudos to the system..paying for games is not a bad thing, as long as there is enough content to play..
    This. Paying for actual content is not bad. Paying sub for "access to servers" on top of box cost+expansion cost is what killed subs.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    GeezerGamer said:
    Iselin said:
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.
    This has been the payment model Anarchy Online has been usuing for over a decade. The base game and "Notum Wars" are F2P. Access to anything from "Shadowlands" through "Lost Eden" was for subscribers.

    My memory is that you could buy extra content in AO i.e. as DLC.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Iselin said:
    Looks like the ESO (and a couple of others) DLC-free-with-sub model is already having an impact on the industry... it's the new sub way.

    With TESO people have a choice of buying the content or of paying a subscription allowing them to play the content. Not unique - LotR has it for example.

    The suggestion here is that the only way to gain access to the content is via a subscription.
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