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Dipping A Toe Into the Game's First Raid (And Having It Bit Off) - Guild Wars 2 Column

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  • MegaMouseGWMegaMouseGW Member UncommonPosts: 25
    I went back to the original Guild Wars recently and found that most of my old guild mates have moved to GW2. They talked me into trying it and soo I will. Just gotta get the money for it from the wife first.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    edited November 2015
    Robokapp said:
    mmrv said:
    Lots of gating in this expansion which was never what they were known for.
    You call it gating, I call it Progression.
    Oh the irony and sadness of your statement. GW2 in all of their effort to remove "loot progression" simply replaced it with a far less fun and rewarding mechanism known as "content progression". Oh and the irony of guild requiring ascended gear to do the raid dungeon which will drop nothing beyond cosmetic improvements....just more of the epic fail that this expansion is. They really should just remove levels, all gear and call GW2 an adventure game where you repeat the same boring events over and over ad nauseum just because.
    progression is the heart of MMOs.
    Yep progression can make or break an MMO.  Just depends on how it's done.

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    dws6969 said:
    .. now I see all the crying on here about "raids are too hard".... *hands you all a tissue* go play WoW you pansies... I WANT a HARD MMO.... I'm so damned tired of playing a happy meal MMO like WoW that I could scream!!!
    Did you just imply that GW2 has harder raids than WoW?

    Give this guy an Oscar.....
  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 473
    edited November 2015
    doodphace said:
    dws6969 said:
    .. now I see all the crying on here about "raids are too hard".... *hands you all a tissue* go play WoW you pansies... I WANT a HARD MMO.... I'm so damned tired of playing a happy meal MMO like WoW that I could scream!!!
    Did you just imply that GW2 has harder raids than WoW?

    Give this guy an Oscar.....
    Let me guess. You played Gw2 at release years ago. You probably have an 80 character. Now you think you know everything about the game and it can not be changed in years even a bit. We should give you an Oscar instead...
    Yes he is right btw. They only released the first wing of the raid and it is a lot harder than what I played in WoD. And I played WoD a lot. The only raid I didn't complate in WoD is Hellfire. In Gw2 our guild only able to beat the first boss till now. We couldn't even beat the second boss yet. Actually right now even fractals in Gw2 are harder than WoW. And even open world content in HoT is a lot more challenging. 
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    edited November 2015
    Nepheth said:
    doodphace said:
    dws6969 said:
    .. now I see all the crying on here about "raids are too hard".... *hands you all a tissue* go play WoW you pansies... I WANT a HARD MMO.... I'm so damned tired of playing a happy meal MMO like WoW that I could scream!!!
    Did you just imply that GW2 has harder raids than WoW?

    Give this guy an Oscar.....
    Let me guess. You played Gw2 at release years ago. You probably have an 80 character. Now you think you know everything about the game and it can not be changed in years even a bit. We should give you an Oscar instead...
    Yes he is right btw. They only released the first wing of the raid and it is a lot harder than what I played in WoD. And I played WoD a lot. The only raid I didn't complate in WoD is Hellfire. In Gw2 our guild only able to beat the first boss till now. We couldn't even beat the second boss yet. Actually right now even fractals in Gw2 are harder than WoW. And even open world content in HoT is a lot more challenging. 
    You cleared mythic Hellfire? ....The first wing of GW2's raid is harder than any WoD Mythic raid?

    Fractals in GW2 are harder than WoW's Mythic Content?
     
    ....you do realise the internet exists, and that these things can be fact checked, right?

  • NephethNepheth Member RarePosts: 473
    doodphace said:
    Nepheth said:
    doodphace said:
    dws6969 said:
    .. now I see all the crying on here about "raids are too hard".... *hands you all a tissue* go play WoW you pansies... I WANT a HARD MMO.... I'm so damned tired of playing a happy meal MMO like WoW that I could scream!!!
    Did you just imply that GW2 has harder raids than WoW?

    Give this guy an Oscar.....
    Let me guess. You played Gw2 at release years ago. You probably have an 80 character. Now you think you know everything about the game and it can not be changed in years even a bit. We should give you an Oscar instead...
    Yes he is right btw. They only released the first wing of the raid and it is a lot harder than what I played in WoD. And I played WoD a lot. The only raid I didn't complate in WoD is Hellfire. In Gw2 our guild only able to beat the first boss till now. We couldn't even beat the second boss yet. Actually right now even fractals in Gw2 are harder than WoW. And even open world content in HoT is a lot more challenging. 
    You cleared mythic Hellfire? ....The first wing of GW2's raid is harder than any WoD Mythic raid?

    Fractals in GW2 are harder than WoW's Mythic Content?
     
    ....you do realise the internet exists, and that these things can be fact checked, right?

    I said in my post that I didn't complate hellfire and you came up with the idea that I cleared mythic Hellfire. Waow do you even read? I compared reworked 60-100 fractals with WoD heroic dungeons and Hot open world content with WoD open world content. And yes I'm comparing the first wing of Spirit Vale with other WoD raids. Yes I'm aware of the internet. You can go and check what I said. Anet complately reworked Fractals with Hot. While they nerfed the diffuclity at lowers levels they buffed the hell out of the new 60-100 level fractals. In Hot, open world content is called hardcore in most of other mmos out there. And yes new raids are a lot HARDER then you think.
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    edited November 2015
    Nepheth said:
    doodphace said:
    Nepheth said:
    doodphace said:
    dws6969 said:
    .. now I see all the crying on here about "raids are too hard".... *hands you all a tissue* go play WoW you pansies... I WANT a HARD MMO.... I'm so damned tired of playing a happy meal MMO like WoW that I could scream!!!
    Did you just imply that GW2 has harder raids than WoW?

    Give this guy an Oscar.....
    Let me guess. You played Gw2 at release years ago. You probably have an 80 character. Now you think you know everything about the game and it can not be changed in years even a bit. We should give you an Oscar instead...
    Yes he is right btw. They only released the first wing of the raid and it is a lot harder than what I played in WoD. And I played WoD a lot. The only raid I didn't complate in WoD is Hellfire. In Gw2 our guild only able to beat the first boss till now. We couldn't even beat the second boss yet. Actually right now even fractals in Gw2 are harder than WoW. And even open world content in HoT is a lot more challenging. 
    You cleared mythic Hellfire? ....The first wing of GW2's raid is harder than any WoD Mythic raid?

    Fractals in GW2 are harder than WoW's Mythic Content?
     
    ....you do realise the internet exists, and that these things can be fact checked, right?

    I said in my post that I didn't complate hellfire and you came up with the idea that I cleared mythic Hellfire. Waow do you even read? I compared reworked 60-100 fractals with WoD heroic dungeons and Hot open world content with WoD open world content. And yes I'm comparing the first wing of Spirit Vale with other WoD raids. Yes I'm aware of the internet. You can go and check what I said. Anet complately reworked Fractals with Hot. While they nerfed the diffuclity at lowers levels they buffed the hell out of the new 60-100 level fractals. In Hot, open world content is called hardcore in most of other mmos out there. And yes new raids are a lot HARDER then you think.
    I never said GW2 didn't have hard content...I simply called out dws6969 for stating that GW2 had harder raids....if you want to compare GW2's raid with the easy mode versions of WoW's raids, by all means, but don;t sit there and pretend like WoW doesn;t have raids that are harder..

    BTW, I have only mentioned raids, you are the one that brought up fractals with no other context....why WOULDN'T I think you were comparing fractals to WoW's Mythis raids and not heoric 5 mans which I never mentioned....

    BTW, Fractals are indeed harder than WoW's heoric 5 man dungeons....they are not, however, harder than WoW's Mythic 5 man dungoens...

    You can't keep comparing GW2's hardest content against WoW's easy mode versions of them...thats what makes people like you (and dws6969) silly...

    And you have the nerve to write "Waow do you even read?"......le sigh
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    edited November 2015
    StoneRoses said:
    Sadly raids and many guilds are requiring Ascended gear.

    Anyone can put the time into getting Ascend or a Legendary, but it's doesn't make them a better player.

    Gearcentric and Force Crafting, so disappointing.


    Sadly group content elitism was bound to spread to raids. That was the reason i completely ignored dungeons in GW2. Ill try them when i get the xpack, but it looks like i wont be doing them




  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Tried my hand at it and quite enjoyed it! It's there - something you can do if you so wish. Thankfully, no one's forced to.
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