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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    In my country tech support and warranty are almost synonymous, if device is acting poorly they test it out and if they face the same problem they send the device to manufacturer for replacement if the customer is still within warranty period. And sometimes they just disregard warranty period by saying "your product has been discontinued by manufacturer so we can not provide you replacement.", it mostly happens when manufacturers bring something completely new like in my case MSI brought in brand new GTX 960. Fortunately for me that none of them suffered any problem with their 780 until at the end of 3 year warranty period. But i don't know how it is handled in other countries, so i just suggested not to buy anything from AMD/Radeon at the moment in case things like that happen somewhere else.
    There is an enormous difference between:

    1)  My card died and I need it fixed or replaced, and
    2)  My card has a driver bug and I need new drivers to fix the bug.

    For the former, the way it's usually done in the US is if your card fails very quickly after purchase, you return it to the place you bought it for a replacement.  If it fails a year or two later while still under warranty, then you have to mail it to the card vendor (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, Sapphire, etc.), and they mail back a replacement card, and you just do without a video card for a few weeks.  I'd be surprised if warranty service through the board partner isn't offered in Bangladesh, but I'm hardly an expert on foreign laws on warranty service.

    For the latter, the place you bought the card (whether the local shop or the country in which you live) has nothing to do with it.  Rather, you go to the AMD or Nvidia web site to download the latest drivers.  Driver support will generally last several years.  For example, AMD just ended driver support on the Radeon HD 5850 that I bought way back in 2009, so I had six years of official driver support.  For comparison, the cards were pulled off the market around May 2011, so you haven't been able to buy a new 5850 since then.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    edited December 2015
    Quizzical said:

    In my country tech support and warranty are almost synonymous, if device is acting poorly they test it out and if they face the same problem they send the device to manufacturer for replacement if the customer is still within warranty period. And sometimes they just disregard warranty period by saying "your product has been discontinued by manufacturer so we can not provide you replacement.", it mostly happens when manufacturers bring something completely new like in my case MSI brought in brand new GTX 960. Fortunately for me that none of them suffered any problem with their 780 until at the end of 3 year warranty period. But i don't know how it is handled in other countries, so i just suggested not to buy anything from AMD/Radeon at the moment in case things like that happen somewhere else.
    There is an enormous difference between:

    1)  My card died and I need it fixed or replaced, and
    2)  My card has a driver bug and I need new drivers to fix the bug.

    For the former, the way it's usually done in the US is if your card fails very quickly after purchase, you return it to the place you bought it for a replacement.  If it fails a year or two later while still under warranty, then you have to mail it to the card vendor (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, Sapphire, etc.), and they mail back a replacement card, and you just do without a video card for a few weeks.  I'd be surprised if warranty service through the board partner isn't offered in Bangladesh, but I'm hardly an expert on foreign laws on warranty service.
    That works differently from Finland then. Our law goes like: "A warranty may be provided by a retailer, manufacturer or importer. The seller is responsible for any warranty granted by a preceding link in the sales chain, such as the manufacturer or importer, as it would be for its own..."

    Source: http://www.kkv.fi/en/facts-and-advice/buying-and-selling/warranty/
     
  • bone15bone15 Member UncommonPosts: 52
    Quizzical said:
    A cheap solution would be Nvidia 950GTX. Don't buy anything from Radeon or AMD this year, they will be totally revamping everything with their ZEN next year.
    Zen is a CPU and the original poster wants a GPU, so that has nothing to do with anything.  New FinFET process nodes being available next year means that I'd expect both Nvidia and AMD to redo their entire lineups.  It's just a question of when cards launch.  With a video card dead now, you don't want to wait an indefinitely long time to replace it.

    As for the original poster, exactly what do you have in your current computer?  For what it's worth, your old Radeon HD 7870 basically still exists, but has been renamed twice to now be a Radeon R7 270X.  To give some idea of performance, a Radeon R9 390 or GeForce GTX 970 will offer about double the performance of your old 7870.
    Nvidia intends to release it's GeForce 1000 series Q2 next year. The next generation graphics processor is code named Pascal. AMD released their HBM1 cards this year while Nvidia plans to hold off on HBM and release theirs with HBM2 which allows for significantly more 3D RAM to be stored on a GPU.

    I personally can't wait to see how much of an improvement HBM brings to the table. Next year will definitely be interesting for the IT world.
    next series has 32gb.. for top model not the titan series but most likely the ti version and 70 and 80 model may have 8-16 gb vram with a insanely fast Memory
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    edited December 2015
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  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    GTX 950 on a low budget, GTX 970 or above if you have money to burn.

    Before the AMD fanboys chip in.
    AMD and Nvidia cards are almost similar in performance, but the AMD require more power and their drivers are poo, also unless you want a Boeing 747 in your bedroom get an Nvidia

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    bone15 said:
    Quizzical said:
    A cheap solution would be Nvidia 950GTX. Don't buy anything from Radeon or AMD this year, they will be totally revamping everything with their ZEN next year.
    Zen is a CPU and the original poster wants a GPU, so that has nothing to do with anything.  New FinFET process nodes being available next year means that I'd expect both Nvidia and AMD to redo their entire lineups.  It's just a question of when cards launch.  With a video card dead now, you don't want to wait an indefinitely long time to replace it.

    As for the original poster, exactly what do you have in your current computer?  For what it's worth, your old Radeon HD 7870 basically still exists, but has been renamed twice to now be a Radeon R7 270X.  To give some idea of performance, a Radeon R9 390 or GeForce GTX 970 will offer about double the performance of your old 7870.
    Nvidia intends to release it's GeForce 1000 series Q2 next year. The next generation graphics processor is code named Pascal. AMD released their HBM1 cards this year while Nvidia plans to hold off on HBM and release theirs with HBM2 which allows for significantly more 3D RAM to be stored on a GPU.

    I personally can't wait to see how much of an improvement HBM brings to the table. Next year will definitely be interesting for the IT world.
    next series has 32gb.. for top model not the titan series but most likely the ti version and 70 and 80 model may have 8-16 gb vram with a insanely fast Memory
    What both AMD and Nvidia have often done lately is to say, if you want large amounts of memory, you have to get a more expensive line of card (Quadro, Tesla, FirePro), not a GeForce or Radeon.  If you want 32 GB of video memory, AMD will sell you one today:

    http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/server/s9170

    That's the same Hawaii chip in as in the Radeon R9 290 and 390 series, but with more memory attached.  In Radeon cards, they cap it at 8 GB.
  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    ste2000 said:
    GTX 950 on a low budget, GTX 970 or above if you have money to burn.

    Before the AMD fanboys chip in.
    AMD and Nvidia cards are almost similar in performance, but the AMD require more power and their drivers are poo, also unless you want a Boeing 747 in your bedroom get an Nvidia

    Currently, NVidia drivers are poo. Just go check their forums. Compatibility breaks with each version. It's kinda sad that fanboys like you are still selling the wrong idea. As for being loud, as always, don't buy a reference board. End of story. Every after market cooler will do, not to mention that top grade AMD comes water cooled. Can't get any quieter than that.


    Sorry had to do it. You're simply wrong.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    ste2000 said:
    GTX 950 on a low budget, GTX 970 or above if you have money to burn.

    Before the AMD fanboys chip in.
    AMD and Nvidia cards are almost similar in performance, but the AMD require more power and their drivers are poo, also unless you want a Boeing 747 in your bedroom get an Nvidia
    Yeah, before the AMD fanboys chip in let the NVIDIA fanboys chip in first.

    pfff. OP got a lot of good recommendations for his $250 budget. Now he picks what works best for him.

    Fanboyism is not a good thing.




  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    Torval said:
    Quizzical said:
    Torval said:
    Searching Amazon for graphics cards or most computer components (except maybe SSDs) should be considered a form of torture.
    So you see why I usually link stuff from New Egg, and I'm hardly the only one in the world to do so.  I'm not sure how much Amazon costs itself in sales each year by having a search function that basically doesn't work right, but it's probably at least in the hundreds of millions.
    I usually search Newegg and find what I want. Then I search Amazon and BestBuy for the exact same part and compare cost, time to ship, and ease of return. If I'm unsure about the purchase, quality, or compatibility, and BestBuy will price match and have it for in store pickup quickly, then I buy from then because that is the easiest return route. If not then I compare price and time to ship between Amazon and Newegg. Amazon has been offering better deals on drives in the last few weeks for what I wanted with a faster time to ship. Newegg has almost all other hardware beat though including graphics cards and power supplies.
    I do the same with Amazon. Find what i want then compare with a name on Amazon from newegg. Mostly they save me a few bucks there..since i am a prime member for the video, i get free 2 day shipping most of the time, along with other savings at times.

    They still have a terrible search function without a firm part/brand name though. :angry: 

    Would say that 75% of the stuff i buy comes from amazon, last things i can remember getting a better deal on from newegg was 2 mice for me and wife. Was a few bucks cheaper from newegg. 
  • eddieg50eddieg50 Member UncommonPosts: 1,809
    thanks for the responses , I will prob go with the r380 for $179 that seems the best bang for the buck, the gtx 970 look to be in the 330 range. Good idea though to check my local best buy I will do that tomorrow
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