You know that england and france have historical rivalry, so whatever france does is not good in english eyes
Their just jealous because the UK always wins Besides, when the UK leaves the EU, do you seriously think France won't have bigger issues? when that happens, and i seriously doubt its an 'if' anymore, then the EU will probably be smashed anyway, and what remains will be fought over for the scraps, good luck France when that happens, is all i can say.
You know that england and france have historical rivalry, so whatever france does is not good in english eyes
Their just jealous because the UK always wins Besides, when the UK leaves the EU, do you seriously think France won't have bigger issues? when that happens, and i seriously doubt its an 'if' anymore, then the EU will probably be smashed anyway, and what remains will be fought over for the scraps, good luck France when that happens, is all i can say.
Actually they will be begging to be let back in again in a few years. Uk contributed little to none, just acts all hurt and w/e they imagined. Its been parodied for quite a while now that england would be most happy if they could drag their little island to the west and cuddle with US.
So i would kick them out, no loss ther really. Scotland would want to stay in EU and that would cause even bigger disaster for UK. Its questionable would there even be UK afterwards.
put them on ships and send all of them to those who caused it across the pond.
I'm absolutely certain, now, you have something very mixed up. While it may be understandable to cite western influence in the shakedown in Iraq as a "destabilizing element", the US wasn't the only perpetrator, only the most visible. Truth be told, this entire region's issues conflagrated almost 100 years ago. There's little to no literary mention of this type of sectarian violence in the Ottoman Empire. Maybe your understanding of history goes back a whole 25 years? 50 years? Well, that's very convenient.
I bet you think Vietnam was all America's doing and France had nothing to do with it. How about India's grudge with western society. I'm not even going to start on Africa.
Further, people aren't cattle, there's no "simple answer" to a refugee crisis. You can't just "ship people around as livestock" because of cultural issues. You're twisted.
I know this isn't exactly on topic, but damnit the ignorance. No, you can't just get away with a line of spin like that. Pick up a history book for a couple hours and rethink this.
This is why its better to get them from torrents, its yours and so on rather than steam where even after you pay for it its not yours.
After all, laws should be changed to benefit the people not the rich companies. If you pay for it, its yours... games used to be like that.
So if a game releases through a platform and only through that just get it from a torrent and that is it... eventually they will learn and do what the consumers want as long as the consumer stands his ground.
Thats some backward ass thinking right there.
Lets throw all the hard work of the devs straight out the window and start pirating all our shit. Not only will the Dev lose all the income with your logic but they will stop making shit altogether.
put them on ships and send all of them to those who caused it across the pond.
I'm absolutely certain, now, you have something very mixed up. While it may be understandable to cite western influence in the shakedown in Iraq as a "destabilizing element", the US wasn't the only perpetrator, only the most visible. Truth be told, this entire region's issues conflagrated almost 100 years ago. There's little to no literary mention of this type of sectarian violence in the Ottoman Empire. Maybe your understanding of history goes back a whole 25 years? 50 years? Well, that's very convenient.
I bet you think Vietnam was all America's doing and France had nothing to do with it. How about India's grudge with western society. I'm not even going to start on Africa.
Further, people aren't cattle, there's no "simple answer" to a refugee crisis. You can't just "ship people around as livestock" because of cultural issues. You're twisted.
I know this isn't exactly on topic, but damnit the ignorance. No, you can't just get away with a line of spin like that. Pick up a history book for a couple hours and rethink this.
Signed, yeh, I'm mad.
I live in the region that actually has 10 century of history that was actually happening here. In fact, imams of Europe recommend my country model for muslim minority intergation because its only successful integration in Europe.
So next time you go on silly spree, showing total incompetence in understanding the issues you caused just to get control of oil wells in those specific countries that now lie in shambles, yes, i would present you with results of your own doing: 1,5 million of refugees from Iraq, Libya, Syria (and other surrounding contries that were caught up in it). I see refugees every day, while you read books in a nice comfy chair. Every day we put few thousnd refugees on trains, every day Germany takes them in. Because SOMEONE has to take responsibility for YOUR actions.
You guys make Russia look like a super hero. And thats saying it all. I bet you have never even been to any of those countries. Not even on a continent. Before you decided to meddle. Not spoken to a single refugee.And thats exactly why i would educate you in practice.
If a people choose to leave instead of defending themselves, they, by nature become homeless and without pride. Just because they are 'sentient' does not make them any less more like cattle than actual people. (Though of course we don't eat them like we do cattle) A people without identity and pride can become dangerous. Add in a very tumultuous religious doctrine, and they can become VERY dangerous. All governments have a duty to protect their own citizens and provide for their own citizens needs, first. Compassion is all well and good, it is a positive aspect of human nature. But being a US citizen, I can say that our own government does not do what is best for their own people. Greed and self interest is the tune that is sung these days and the US government uses the poor and social issues to garner support for their re-election. they are not sitting in a room for days and trying to figure out a real plan or how they will take care of these people. Once they vote to help them or campaign against helping them, they wash their hands of it and move on to the next thing that they think will help them keep their positions. The rich here only want to get richer and if they can add more strain to benefit their goals, they will do it without question.
How is 14-20 people living in a single, thrashed house helping anyone? That is what compassion gets you here in the US. You won't see any of our politicians offering up their own house for any of these refugees either. But they are more than willing to make them someone elses problem once their done with them.
put them on ships and send all of them to those who caused it across the pond.
I'm absolutely certain, now, you have something very mixed up. While it may be understandable to cite western influence in the shakedown in Iraq as a "destabilizing element", the US wasn't the only perpetrator, only the most visible. Truth be told, this entire region's issues conflagrated almost 100 years ago. There's little to no literary mention of this type of sectarian violence in the Ottoman Empire. Maybe your understanding of history goes back a whole 25 years? 50 years? Well, that's very convenient.
I bet you think Vietnam was all America's doing and France had nothing to do with it. How about India's grudge with western society. I'm not even going to start on Africa.
Further, people aren't cattle, there's no "simple answer" to a refugee crisis. You can't just "ship people around as livestock" because of cultural issues. You're twisted.
I know this isn't exactly on topic, but damnit the ignorance. No, you can't just get away with a line of spin like that. Pick up a history book for a couple hours and rethink this.
Signed, yeh, I'm mad.
I live in the region that actually has 10 century of history that was actually happening here. In fact, imams of Europe recommend my country model for muslim minority intergation because its only successful integration in Europe.
So next time you go on silly spree, showing total incompetence in understanding the issues you caused just to get control of oil wells in those specific countries that now lie in shambles, yes, i would present you with results of your own doing: 1,5 million of refugees from Iraq, Libya, Syria (and other surrounding contries that were caught up in it). I see refugees every day, while you read books in a nice comfy chair. Every day we put few thousnd refugees on trains, every day Germany takes them in. Because SOMEONE has to take responsibility for YOUR actions.
You guys make Russia look like a super hero. And thats saying it all. I bet you have never even been to any of those countries. Not even on a continent. Before you decided to meddle. Not spoken to a single refugee.And thats exactly why i would educate you in practice.
That's the world for you. Someone does something insanely stupid and instead of them taking the repercussions someone else ends up dealing with it while the other one profusely apologizes publicly, being glad they didn't have to deal with it.
put them on ships and send all of them to those who caused it across the pond.
I'm absolutely certain, now, you have something very mixed up. While it may be understandable to cite western influence in the shakedown in Iraq as a "destabilizing element", the US wasn't the only perpetrator, only the most visible. Truth be told, this entire region's issues conflagrated almost 100 years ago. There's little to no literary mention of this type of sectarian violence in the Ottoman Empire. Maybe your understanding of history goes back a whole 25 years? 50 years? Well, that's very convenient.
I bet you think Vietnam was all America's doing and France had nothing to do with it. How about India's grudge with western society. I'm not even going to start on Africa.
Further, people aren't cattle, there's no "simple answer" to a refugee crisis. You can't just "ship people around as livestock" because of cultural issues. You're twisted.
I know this isn't exactly on topic, but damnit the ignorance. No, you can't just get away with a line of spin like that. Pick up a history book for a couple hours and rethink this.
Signed, yeh, I'm mad.
I live in the region that actually has 10 century of history that was actually happening here. In fact, imams of Europe recommend my country model for muslim minority intergation.
So next time you go on silly spree, showing total incompetence in understanding the issues you caused just to get control of oil wells in those specific countries that now lie in shambles, yes, i would present you with results of your own doing: 1,5 million of refugees from Iraq, Libya, Syria (and other surrounding contries that were caught up in it). I see refugees every day, while you read books in a nice comfy chair. Every day we put few thousnd refugees on trains, every day Germany takes them in. Because SOMEONE has to take responsibility for YOUR actions.
You guys make Russia look like a super hero. And thats saying it all. I bet you have never even been to any of those countries. Not even on a continent. Before you decided to meddle. Not spoken to a single refugee.And thats exactly why i would educate you in practice.
Has nothing to do with oil. We have so much oil in North America that we export it, and have thousands of square km of land untouched as forested strategic reserves. You are misled.
You're also misled about refugees. We've been accepting the world's refugees for over 200 years, buddy. America was built by refugees. Yeh, we have some vocal immigration opponents, but that's above and beyond the tens of thousands a year we legally accept through mandated programs. You can't hold a candle to the humanitarian aid from the USA, I don't give a damn from where you're arguing the issue.
Sure you dont give a damn, thats pretty much shown everywhere you interfere. As is said, you make Russia look like super hero.
Im sure youll have no problem accomodating 1,5+ million (new arrive every day) of ones you created now.
Unfortunately for you you cannot even start to comprehend what youve done to those countries in name of greed so i suggest you stick your head in your books and continue to live in ignorance and continue to pretend it never happened and all those refugees are a lie.. Thats what you do best after all.
I think everyone understands the desire to pigeonhole "bought" from "rented". These are just two very basic concepts that keep things simple.
Very, very basic concepts. And whilst things do change they don't change that much.
If I have BOUGHT a product from Steam and decide that I want to move to another "service provider" I should be able to since I own the product yes?
I wouldn't be selling it; the other service provider can provide the same copyright protection so no issues there. Yes there may be transaction fees etc. but I should be able to.
If I RENT via Amazon Prime, Hula etc. I have no expectation of ownership.
If Steam do not allow owners to move the products they have bought that is misrepresentation.
You know that england and france have historical rivalry, so whatever france does is not good in english eyes
Yes, my position comes down to the battle of Agincourt now. Oh look I could parody what you said.
Really often when we say the French, or the French government, what you are referring to is one guy in a back office who has taken a stance on something. Likewise for the British one.
I see issues here, because "France" may be on a heading to put itself out on a limb with the gaming industry. Which no one should want.
You know that england and france have historical rivalry, so whatever france does is not good in english eyes
Their just jealous because the UK always wins Besides, when the UK leaves the EU, do you seriously think France won't have bigger issues? when that happens, and i seriously doubt its an 'if' anymore, then the EU will probably be smashed anyway, and what remains will be fought over for the scraps, good luck France when that happens, is all i can say.
Actually they will be begging to be let back in again in a few years. Uk contributed little to none, just acts all hurt and w/e they imagined. Its been parodied for quite a while now that england would be most happy if they could drag their little island to the west and cuddle with US.
So i would kick them out, no loss ther really. Scotland would want to stay in EU and that would cause even bigger disaster for UK. Its questionable would there even be UK afterwards.
Trade, unless your totally ignorant of the figures involved, then i think you might want to rethink that. UK imports more from EU than it exports to the EU, less than half the overseas export trade that the UK does, is with the EU, and even some of the export trade it does with the EU is just 'through' the EU and not with member states. The UK however imports quite a bit from the EU, you might be surprised with how much of the EU trade is between rest of EU to the UK, if the UK left and the EU tried to restrict trade, then all the UK has to do is impose an import tariff, and place restrictions on capital movement from overseas businesses with a UK presence, overseas, pretty sure some of those convenient luxembourg tax deals would be scrutinised rather heavily too Scotland btw, already voted, they might get to vote again in the future, but there was a clear vote and they remained within the UK. If they voted to leave again, they would have to petition to join the EU, though with the current market trends, by the time the UK leaves the EU, i doubt somehow that it will be all that enticing a proposition, Scotland will remain a part of the UK, but assume they did, do you even know what the per capita GPD of Scotland is in the UK? take the 2014 results, GDP of UK was $2941.9 billion or about £2051.25 billion the GDP for Scotland for 2014 was somewhere in the region of £150 billion it may seem a bit unbalanced, but perhaps should also bear in mind, that Scotland represents 8% of the population of the UK as a whole, and this is before Oil decided to take a nose dive off a cliff too. Thats not to say that Scotland leaving the UK wouldn't have been a disaster, but just not in the sense you were implying, and it wouldn't have been of any benefit to the EU in any case, if anything the EU had more to fear from Scotland leaving the UK, as it would have given the Catalans a lot more leverage, all things considered, and that would have been an entirely different ball game.
oh, no doubt both would be negatively impacted, but EU trade with UK is just a friction of EU trade, while UK trade with EU is half of its trade. You do the math who would be impacted much more and who would end up with short end of the stick. Scotland for now stays, but, as you said, just for convenience reasons, Scots may not see england rocking the boat as something in their interest. UK is flexing its muscles, but, rest of the EU isnt very impressed. Because all involved know who will lose more.
You know that england and france have historical rivalry, so whatever france does is not good in english eyes
Yes, my position comes down to the battle of Agincourt now. Oh look I could parody what you said.
Really often when we say the French, or the French government, what you are referring to is one guy in a back office who has taken a stance on something. Likewise for the British one.
I see issues here, because "France" may be on a heading to put itself out on a limb with the gaming industry. Which no one should want.
That guys are faces of the country and its politics towards outside. And they do run their countries. So wheter public agrees or not is irrelevant in twisted democracy like we have now, because public decides once in couple of years.
You can substitute "France" with "EU" minus UK. If you think they will just drop one of their most lucrative regions, well....thats certainly your opinion.
In the end theres always piracy available, and i assure you that gaming will go on. And i assure you that those corporations also know that very well and it will be of their (huge profit) interest to cooperate and play nice.
As far as UK trade goes it wouldn't be just trade with the EU that was impacted either.
On one project I was involved in whilst working in the US involved "stuff" from the UK being imported into the US; big contract, everything agreed at all levels. "Stuff" gets to the US and customs wouldn't let it in - non-compliance with US laws. When told it complied with UK law no change; when told that UK law complied with EU law and that the US-EU had a reciprocal agreement they let it in. Basically UK small, EU big. And this was multi-multi-million £££ stuff btw.
Funny part: EU and UK laws complied with UN directives that had been updated partly at the urging of the US; the US hadn't, however, got around to updating their own laws! And there were "forces" that wanted to replace the UK supplier with another.
Bottomline: big has more clout. If the EU pushes the issue Steam will change.
And, as I asked above, why shouldn't I be able to transfer a product I have bought from Steam to e.g. Amazon? Or Amazon to Steam? Or iTunes to Spotify? A fee may be involved for sure; some companies may not accept transfers but at the end of the day if we own it we should be able to transfer it. And the right to change of title (ownership) follows.
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Besides, when the UK leaves the EU, do you seriously think France won't have bigger issues? when that happens, and i seriously doubt its an 'if' anymore, then the EU will probably be smashed anyway, and what remains will be fought over for the scraps, good luck France when that happens, is all i can say.
So i would kick them out, no loss ther really. Scotland would want to stay in EU and that would cause even bigger disaster for UK. Its questionable would there even be UK afterwards.
I bet you think Vietnam was all America's doing and France had nothing to do with it. How about India's grudge with western society. I'm not even going to start on Africa.
Further, people aren't cattle, there's no "simple answer" to a refugee crisis. You can't just "ship people around as livestock" because of cultural issues. You're twisted.
I know this isn't exactly on topic, but damnit the ignorance. No, you can't just get away with a line of spin like that. Pick up a history book for a couple hours and rethink this.
Signed, yeh, I'm mad.
Lets throw all the hard work of the devs straight out the window and start pirating all our shit. Not only will the Dev lose all the income with your logic but they will stop making shit altogether.
So next time you go on silly spree, showing total incompetence in understanding the issues you caused just to get control of oil wells in those specific countries that now lie in shambles, yes, i would present you with results of your own doing: 1,5 million of refugees from Iraq, Libya, Syria (and other surrounding contries that were caught up in it). I see refugees every day, while you read books in a nice comfy chair. Every day we put few thousnd refugees on trains, every day Germany takes them in. Because SOMEONE has to take responsibility for YOUR actions.
You guys make Russia look like a super hero. And thats saying it all. I bet you have never even been to any of those countries. Not even on a continent. Before you decided to meddle. Not spoken to a single refugee.And thats exactly why i would educate you in practice.
How is 14-20 people living in a single, thrashed house helping anyone? That is what compassion gets you here in the US. You won't see any of our politicians offering up their own house for any of these refugees either. But they are more than willing to make them someone elses problem once their done with them.
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You're also misled about refugees. We've been accepting the world's refugees for over 200 years, buddy. America was built by refugees. Yeh, we have some vocal immigration opponents, but that's above and beyond the tens of thousands a year we legally accept through mandated programs. You can't hold a candle to the humanitarian aid from the USA, I don't give a damn from where you're arguing the issue.
You, sir, have been indoctrinated poorly.
Im sure youll have no problem accomodating 1,5+ million (new arrive every day) of ones you created now.
Unfortunately for you you cannot even start to comprehend what youve done to those countries in name of greed so i suggest you stick your head in your books and continue to live in ignorance and continue to pretend it never happened and all those refugees are a lie.. Thats what you do best after all.
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If I have BOUGHT a product from Steam and decide that I want to move to another "service provider" I should be able to since I own the product yes?
I wouldn't be selling it; the other service provider can provide the same copyright protection so no issues there. Yes there may be transaction fees etc. but I should be able to.
If I RENT via Amazon Prime, Hula etc. I have no expectation of ownership.
If Steam do not allow owners to move the products they have bought that is misrepresentation.
Yes, my position comes down to the battle of Agincourt now. Oh look I could parody what you said.
Really often when we say the French, or the French government, what you are referring to is one guy in a back office who has taken a stance on something. Likewise for the British one.
I see issues here, because "France" may be on a heading to put itself out on a limb with the gaming industry. Which no one should want.
UK imports more from EU than it exports to the EU, less than half the overseas export trade that the UK does, is with the EU, and even some of the export trade it does with the EU is just 'through' the EU and not with member states. The UK however imports quite a bit from the EU, you might be surprised with how much of the EU trade is between rest of EU to the UK, if the UK left and the EU tried to restrict trade, then all the UK has to do is impose an import tariff, and place restrictions on capital movement from overseas businesses with a UK presence, overseas, pretty sure some of those convenient luxembourg tax deals would be scrutinised rather heavily too
Scotland btw, already voted, they might get to vote again in the future, but there was a clear vote and they remained within the UK. If they voted to leave again, they would have to petition to join the EU, though with the current market trends, by the time the UK leaves the EU, i doubt somehow that it will be all that enticing a proposition, Scotland will remain a part of the UK, but assume they did, do you even know what the per capita GPD of Scotland is in the UK?
take the 2014 results, GDP of UK was $2941.9 billion or about £2051.25 billion
the GDP for Scotland for 2014 was somewhere in the region of £150 billion
it may seem a bit unbalanced, but perhaps should also bear in mind, that Scotland represents 8% of the population of the UK as a whole, and this is before Oil decided to take a nose dive off a cliff too.
Thats not to say that Scotland leaving the UK wouldn't have been a disaster, but just not in the sense you were implying, and it wouldn't have been of any benefit to the EU in any case, if anything the EU had more to fear from Scotland leaving the UK, as it would have given the Catalans a lot more leverage, all things considered, and that would have been an entirely different ball game.
Scotland for now stays, but, as you said, just for convenience reasons, Scots may not see england rocking the boat as something in their interest.
UK is flexing its muscles, but, rest of the EU isnt very impressed. Because all involved know who will lose more.
You can substitute "France" with "EU" minus UK. If you think they will just drop one of their most lucrative regions, well....thats certainly your opinion.
In the end theres always piracy available, and i assure you that gaming will go on. And i assure you that those corporations also know that very well and it will be of their (huge profit) interest to cooperate and play nice.
On one project I was involved in whilst working in the US involved "stuff" from the UK being imported into the US; big contract, everything agreed at all levels. "Stuff" gets to the US and customs wouldn't let it in - non-compliance with US laws. When told it complied with UK law no change; when told that UK law complied with EU law and that the US-EU had a reciprocal agreement they let it in. Basically UK small, EU big. And this was multi-multi-million £££ stuff btw.
Funny part: EU and UK laws complied with UN directives that had been updated partly at the urging of the US; the US hadn't, however, got around to updating their own laws! And there were "forces" that wanted to replace the UK supplier with another.
Bottomline: big has more clout. If the EU pushes the issue Steam will change.
And, as I asked above, why shouldn't I be able to transfer a product I have bought from Steam to e.g. Amazon? Or Amazon to Steam? Or iTunes to Spotify? A fee may be involved for sure; some companies may not accept transfers but at the end of the day if we own it we should be able to transfer it. And the right to change of title (ownership) follows.