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nowarrantynowarranty Member Posts: 75

I bought a new computer, and now I found out that I can't upgrade my video card, there's no slot in the motherboard that it fits in. Is there anything I can do?

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  • SlntasnSlntasn Member Posts: 711
    You might want to start out by telling us what kind of computer you have.

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  • nowarrantynowarranty Member Posts: 75

    Oh, sorry.

    It was a Dell Dimension 3000, I'm not sure which motherboard it is.

  • nowarrantynowarranty Member Posts: 75

    Also, the video card that wouldn't fit was a somewhat old one, have they changed the slots since it? It was an ATI Radeon 9200 Atlantis.

  • SlytheSlythe Member UncommonPosts: 952

    You must mean an AGP slot. One of my friends has the exact same computer I think, his is a Pentium 4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB . And his has no AGP slot either. Sorry man, it looks like you will need to get a new motherboard.

  • xminatorxminator Member Posts: 306


    Originally posted by Slythe
    You must mean an AGP slot. One of my friends has the exact same computer I think, his is a Pentium 4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB . And his has no AGP slot either. Sorry man, it looks like you will need to get a new motherboard.

    New motherboards dont have AGP slots. Most likely the Dell 3000 have PCI-E slots. So you'll need a new gfx card.

  • KaneKane Member Posts: 780

    Nope. Just checked. It has only 3 PCI slots, NOT PCI-E. You CAN, however, get a better card. Check this link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133134

  • NihilanthNihilanth Member Posts: 1,357

    most new mobos DO have agp slots, but they ALSO have pci-e. pci-e is becoming the standard though so this will most likely change in the future.

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  • KaneKane Member Posts: 780

    I have yet to see a dual AGP and PCI-E mobo. If you can link one for me, I'd love you!

  • tablotablo Member UncommonPosts: 40

    wtf r u tslkin about

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by Kane
    I have yet to see a dual AGP and PCI-E mobo. If you can link one for me, I'd love you!

    Ive got one ::::02::

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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332


    Originally posted by Slythe
    You must mean an AGP slot. One of my friends has the exact same computer I think, his is a Pentium 4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB . And his has no AGP slot either. Sorry man, it looks like you will need to get a new motherboard.

    No, its a Dell, you can't just replace the motherboard. All he can do is get a standard PCI video card if he can find one still. Pre-build manufacturers are notorious for integrated that really bad Intel Video card into their computers cause they are dirt cheap and not putting an external AGP slot.


    From the Dell site for the 3000

    Graphics Performance: Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 video provides solid graphics and multimedia experience that allows web surfing, movie watching and 2D Gaming.

    Your stuck with the video card you have or by a low end upgrade like Kane suggested. You will be able to actually game then, but not very well.

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  • Slasher29Slasher29 Member UncommonPosts: 194



    Originally posted by Fadeus




    Originally posted by Slythe
    You must mean an AGP slot. One of my friends has the exact same computer I think, his is a Pentium 4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB . And his has no AGP slot either. Sorry man, it looks like you will need to get a new motherboard.

    No, its a Dell, you can't just replace the motherboard. All he can do is get a standard PCI video card if he can find one still. Pre-build manufacturers are notorious for integrated that really bad Intel Video card into their computercause they are dirt cheap and not putting an external AGP slot.


    From the Dell site for the 3000

    Graphics Performance: Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 video provides solid graphics and multimedia experience that allows web surfing, movie watching and 2D Gaming.

    Your stuck with the video card you have or by a low end upgrade like Kane suggested. You will be able to actually game then, but not very well

     

    i have a dell  u don't need a new motherboard. the video card u need is a PCI express. pci express video cards are alot better and faster then AGP cards al the newer pcs comes built for the PCI cards.hope this helps

     

    slasher




  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332


    Originally posted by Slasher29
    Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by SlytheYou must mean an AGP slot. One of my friends has the exact same computer I think, his is a Pentium 4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB . And his has no AGP slot either. Sorry man, it looks like you will need to get a new motherboard.No, its a Dell, you can't just replace the motherboard. All he can do is get a standard PCI video card if he can find one still. Pre-build manufacturers are notorious for integrated that really bad Intel Video card into their computercause they are dirt cheap and not putting an external AGP slot.
    From the Dell site for the 3000
    Graphics Performance: Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 video provides solid graphics and multimedia experience that allows web surfing, movie watching and 2D Gaming.
    Your stuck with the video card you have or by a low end upgrade like Kane suggested. You will be able to actually game then, but not very well

    i have a dell u don't need a new motherboard. the video card u need is a PCI express. pci express video cards are alot better and faster then AGP cards al the newer pcs comes built for the PCI cards.hope this helps

    slasher

    Pay attention, 2 people here, myself being one looked up the exact Dell model. It has a built in AGP card with NO extra slot on the motherboard. If you don't beleive me go look up a Dell Dimension 3000 for yourself. Or you can actually READ the part I pasted into my post that you quoted from the Dell website.


    Here is the link: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_3000?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn&~tab=specstab#tabtop

    THREE PCI Slots, nothing else. He cannot get a PCI-E card, he can ONLY get a standard PCI VGA card.

    - Scaris

    "What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World

  • KaneKane Member Posts: 780
    Exactly as I stated on the first page. Thats why I linked a good PCI vid card. Its your only chance.
  • apocadallapocadall Member Posts: 64

    This is one of the reason I build all my computers.

  • Slasher29Slasher29 Member UncommonPosts: 194



    Originally posted by Fadeus




    Originally posted by Slasher29


    Originally posted by Fadeus

    Originally posted by SlytheYou must mean an AGP slot. One of my friends has the exact same computer I think, his is a Pentium 4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB . And his has no AGP slot either. Sorry man, it looks like you will need to get a new motherboard.

    No, its a Dell, you can't just replace the motherboard. All he can do is get a standard PCI video card if he can find one still. Pre-build manufacturers are notorious for integrated that really bad Intel Video card into their computercause they are dirt cheap and not putting an external AGP slot.
    From the Dell site for the 3000
    Graphics Performance: Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 video provides solid graphics and multimedia experience that allows web surfing, movie watching and 2D Gaming.
    Your stuck with the video card you have or by a low end upgrade like Kane suggested. You will be able to actually game then, but not very well

    i have a dell u don't need a new motherboard. the video card u need is a PCI express. pci express video cards are alot better and faster then AGP cards al the newer pcs comes built for the PCI cards.hope this helps

    slasher


    Pay attention, 2 people here, myself being one looked up the exact Dell model. It has a built in AGP card with NO extra slot on the motherboard. If you don't beleive me go look up a Dell Dimension 3000 for yourself. Or you can actually READ the part I pasted into my post that you quoted from the Dell website.


    Here is the link: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/dimen_3000?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn&~tab=specstab#tabtop

    THREE PCI Slots, nothing else. He cannot get a PCI-E card, he can ONLY get a standard PCI VGA card.



    sorry about that man  when i wrote the post was in a hurry guss i didn't read all ur post again sorry fad

    Slash

  • nowarrantynowarranty Member Posts: 75

    Alright, update, I'm gonna replace my motherboard, do the trial of the isle, and see how that goes. Is it true that I'll need to replace the stock dell power supply as well?

    Also, why is this video card so cheap? All of the reviewers loved it.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150059&ATT=Video+Cards&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r

  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332


    Originally posted by nowarranty
    Alright, update, I'm gonna replace my motherboard, do the trial of the isle, and see how that goes. Is it true that I'll need to replace the stock dell power supply as well?Also, why is this video card so cheap? All of the reviewers loved it.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150059&ATT=Video+Cards&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r

    We have already said you cannot replace a motherboard on a dell unless dell itself sells you one. I highly doubt the screw points would even match up let alone all the other problems you will run into. As for the power supply, thats completely a guess since it was built specifically to dell's design.

    Even if someone tells you they have successfully changed them before, you could very well end up with a very expensive paperweight when you are done.

    - Scaris

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  • SaigonshakesSaigonshakes Member Posts: 937

    Yeah I'm almost certain Dell makes a unique form factor for their mobo's. If it's not a different form factor I know there is other problems involved. I remember I was going to try and upgrade a Dell quite awhile ago but ended up finding out it was easier to just build a new PC.

  • spydermr2spydermr2 Member Posts: 336

    Yeah, this is why I build my PCs. That model Dell has no open AGP slot, nor PCI-E slots. The screwholes won't line up with other boards -- done deliberately so they can keep you once they get you. I suppose you could jerry-rig something, but (sorry) it looks like this is just one big expensive lesson in PC manufacture.

    Only from the big resellers do you get this moronic garbage: non-standard form factors, standard form factors but they mount the boards differently, no open AGP slots and/or no open PCI-E slots. And they don't do anything to educate their buyers, because if they did, their buyers wouldn't buy the garbage they're feeding them. You have to go to the expensive PCs from these guys to get something decent that is also expandable/replaceable. Most people don't.

  • KaneKane Member Posts: 780

    Just to reiterate what everyone else has said, trying to upgrade a Dells motherboard is an effort in futility. Not only are the mounts different, but the power supply is as well. Oh, and that video card SUCKS, thats why its cheap.

  • nowarrantynowarranty Member Posts: 75

    Alright then, how about this? I buy a new case with power supply, motherboard, and video card. I keep the things such as the DVD drive, Hard Drive, 512mb ram (I will add more), and processor P4 3ghz w/ HT.

    Will I be able to use those parts, or will they be incompatible as well?

    And what video card would you recommend? I want something that will play Battlefield 2, and is around 100 bucks.

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