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The ban crazy ZOS. My Brief time with ESO.

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  • KonfessKonfess Member RarePosts: 1,667
    aeoliah said:
     association with known fraudulent accounts.
     
     I had 1m+ gold on my id which was farmed by me for hours in craglorn and rift and refining mats.  


    You Farmed and sold items to Fraudulent Accounts.  I suspect the money they paid you with was either duped, bought or in some way a violation of TOS.  You were a part of a money laundering scheme.  You may not have known, and there is no way to prove it.  But you were a part of the gold farming industry, I suspect.

    Here is a real world example, of what I suspect happened to you.  A Ferrari dealer claims to be innocent because they don't sell drugs.  But they do sell Ferraris to drug dealers.  I'm am not saying that you were aware of what you did, but most likely you did something and did it a lot in violation of the TOS.

    The path to the dark side is easy.  And easy is usually in violation of the TOS.

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    As if it could exist, without being payed for.
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  • Adjuvant1Adjuvant1 Member RarePosts: 2,100
    Konfess said:
    aeoliah said:
     association with known fraudulent accounts.
     
     I had 1m+ gold on my id which was farmed by me for hours in craglorn and rift and refining mats.  


    You Farmed and sold items to Fraudulent Accounts.  I suspect the money they paid you with was either duped, bought or in some way a violation of TOS.  You were a part of a money laundering scheme.  You may not have known, and there is no way to prove it.  But you were a part of the gold farming industry, I suspect.

    Here is a real world example, of what I suspect happened to you.  A Ferrari dealer claims to be innocent because they don't sell drugs.  But they do sell Ferraris to drug dealers.  I'm am not saying that you were aware of what you did, but most likely you did something and did it a lot in violation of the TOS.

    The path to the dark side is easy.  And easy is usually in violation of the TOS.
    What you're describing may have been the impetus that caused his account to be investigated. Moreover, though, between the lines, you're almost suggesting the game company somehow didn't think of this or can't tell the difference. They have and they can. Whole games would shut down if companies started banning every account that, at some point, transacted currency from illicit users.

    "Association with known fraudulent accounts" means little more than the source of the retail product. It was investigated, and while his income "could" be considered legitimate, OP got no benefit of the doubt, for the identification of the retail source.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited December 2015
    Aori said:
    Wizardry said:
    I should make note that before anyone thinks these people are just lying,i know i have been banned from Wow after playing for only 1 hour lmao.I logged out in the middle of the night and when i awoke to play in the morning my account was already banned.
    Needless to say i ripped into Blizzard because there was absolutely no way i did anything even remotely wrong,so obviously THEY did something like possibly gave out my ID and that got used to make some other account illegally or something.I told them they had better hope my CC information was not compromised or they will be in serious trouble.

    I had no doubt what so ever 100% that this was a problem within Blizzard.This was especially since i have never visited any WOW site ever nor did i play the game before either and it was totally new ID used as well.No way in hell anyone is even remotely capable of hacking into my account over a few hours and especially since i that was my very first hour playing ever.

    My guess was that developers sell your ID and also why Blizzard for example has that spyware on your game files i am sure they are sharing information with third parties.
    Oh lordy bring on the conspiracy theories or fabricated stories. If Blizzard didn't unban your account, you did something wrong. Something wrong includes buying cdkeys and gamecards from sketchy sources including ebay.
    absolutely 100% nothing wrong and i never even tried to get m y account back because it was a free trial.
    There is nothing conspiracy about,you don't get accounts hacked in a matter of like 3 hours.So yeah your assumption of buying anything is wrong because it was a free trial ,i did not need to buy a single thing.Geesh even in that hour or so i played i probably only actually played for about 15 minutes as i was afk most of that hour.

    My guess as i stated was that Blizzard being a trial account saw it fit to share my information with third party sites as a way to pay for free trials,i am only guessing of course ,but i know for certain there is no way my account should have been banned.

    I know for FACT that SOE at one time several years ago,sold gamer's logs to some school ,university for educational purposes.AOL was known for selling it's account users ID in bulk form,it does happen and likely more than we know.What do you think happens with cookies and EVER Ysite has them,even including the official websites of games that you go to.

    Blizzard.com for example has 12 cookies loaded all of which are with Google analytics,Google doesn't make multi millions doing nothing,they share your information with others.

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  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Wizardry said:
    Aori said:
    Wizardry said:
    I should make note that before anyone thinks these people are just lying,i know i have been banned from Wow after playing for only 1 hour lmao.I logged out in the middle of the night and when i awoke to play in the morning my account was already banned.
    Needless to say i ripped into Blizzard because there was absolutely no way i did anything even remotely wrong,so obviously THEY did something like possibly gave out my ID and that got used to make some other account illegally or something.I told them they had better hope my CC information was not compromised or they will be in serious trouble.

    I had no doubt what so ever 100% that this was a problem within Blizzard.This was especially since i have never visited any WOW site ever nor did i play the game before either and it was totally new ID used as well.No way in hell anyone is even remotely capable of hacking into my account over a few hours and especially since i that was my very first hour playing ever.

    My guess was that developers sell your ID and also why Blizzard for example has that spyware on your game files i am sure they are sharing information with third parties.
    Oh lordy bring on the conspiracy theories or fabricated stories. If Blizzard didn't unban your account, you did something wrong. Something wrong includes buying cdkeys and gamecards from sketchy sources including ebay.
    absolutely 100% nothing wrong and i never even tried to get m y account back because it was a free trial.
    There is nothing conspiracy about,you don't get accounts hacked in a matter of like 3 hours.So yeah your assumption of buying anything is wrong because it was a free trial ,i did not need to buy a single thing.Geesh even in that hour or so i played i probably only actually played for about 15 minutes as i was afk most of that hour.

    My guess as i stated was that Blizzard being a trial account saw it fit to share my information with third party sites as a way to pay for free trials,i am only guessing of course ,but i know for certain there is no way my account should have been banned.

    I know for FACT that SOE at one time several years ago,sold gamer's logs to some school ,university for educational purposes.AOL was known for selling it's account users ID in bulk form,it does happen and likely more than we know.What do you think happens with cookies and EVER Ysite has them,even including the official websites of games that you go to.

    Blizzard.com for example has 12 cookies loaded all of which are with Google analytics,Google doesn't make multi millions doing nothing,they share your information with others.
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  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    time007 said:
    Iselin said:
    Xeno.phon said:
    1m gold in a month is just not doable. They probably checked your trade history and caught you buying that gold you claim to have earned.

    They probably have a notification system that alerts them to suspicious user activity, like a month old account having 1m gold. You came to their attention, they reviewed your trade history and caught you buying gold, deal wid it kid.
    I don't know man... I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. His answer to my question about 1 million farming way back in the first page was the right answer. One of my old trade guilds had several farmers in it that spent a LOT of time farming mats in Craglorn... 100K a day was very doable for those who had the patience for that mind numbing shit even back before the Imperial City DLC.

    You might still be right but I'll give him the benefit... for now.
    Case solved about the "how'd he get 1 million in currency".  I'm glad thats settled.  oh wait that wasn't what the OP was asking help with! what a complete waste of time that was.  can't stay on track can we.  focus people focus 

    as for my sig, i dont usually jump in unless someone is getting ganged up on.  he was getting ganged up on, maybe not by you, but by many of the people replying.  try to take a step back.  people were honing in on his 1 million in currency wondering where he got it from when it didnt have anything to do with helping him.  

    funny thing is, in lots of my threads i create where i ask for help, i make a second disclaimer where i state if they arent going to provide any actual help, to just disregard.  seems he should have used that disclaimer.  

    in general, repliers usually are 100% sarcasm/blaming etc, 100% trying to help, or a mix of passive aggressive remarks/blaming and a sentence or two of help.  

    FYI this is trying to help.  I can imagine that zeni flags any account that makes 1 mil in less then 2 months of operating.  Which is why we began to ask questions about how it happened.  Look at the details and pay attention next time.  Approx 1 month and the dude has a vet character and has somehow managed to get 1 mil gold.  So either he buy an account with a vet character already attached to it.  Or he buy gold from another player.  They probably saw him selling items for really high prices which also flags because everyone knows iron isn't worth 100k a stack.  Because if Zeni thinks what he did was impossible then why is it so hard to believe players are also questioning it?
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • mmoluvammoluva Member UncommonPosts: 323
    You broke the rules. 

    Buy a new account and try whatever you were doing in violation again. 

  • aeoliahaeoliah Member UncommonPosts: 21
    edited December 2015
    @filmoret IMO, You are giving me the worst responses here. Just because you cant farm 1m in a month or get to VR 10 in a month, you think noone can do that? I had a lot of free time this month and if i wanted i could have reached more than vr10, grinding at rift till an extend. 
    Your assumptions make me laugh, i wasn't going to reply to you but i cant stand that much stupidity. You already blamed me few posts back and now you just took it to a whole new level. You should become a judge, you are prolly gonna sentence a kid to death for stealing an apple. You play too casual that it all seems so undoable. But it is and i know many other players do that too. They farm and level very quickly by grinding. Few people dont like this playstyle but thats how i play. I do this for one month to max out then i play casually since i have the stuffs i need. And one more thing, If you really think i bought gold, I dont think people get banned for buying gold in ESO. They get banned for selling. And i didnt do both. 
    I dont know why i am explaining this too, but i didnt sell anything at obnoxious prices in the market, i sell stuff exactly at what MM (mastermerchant addon) suggests me to. 
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  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    edited December 2015
    mmoluva said:
    You broke the rules. 

    Buy a new account and try whatever you were doing in violation again. 
    I know right? he thinks he's the victim in this.  The real victim is the corporation Zenimax.  and also us and mmorpg.com for having to hear his story.

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  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Tough luck OP. I was going to get a 2nd account and I searched for the best price after spending over 120 for the original game at release. I came across g2a and after reading for about 5 minutes decided it was to good to be true and know a few people whose accounts were banned because of buying there. ZoS also put a forum post up saying who you should deal with. One problem I pointed out to ZoS at the time it should be a sticky so players who come to the site see it right away. But of course they didn't listen, hell they never really listen to the players over there. It is one of the worse company's I ever seen when dealing with customers.

    After I pointed out to them what they are doing wrong with their PR program and yeah I used names and then told them exactly what they should do to support all the players and to get non players in the game they banned me real fast from the forums. The cool part is right after that, they put what i told them into action and it did help in the short term. Problem they still to this day ignore is the bugs from beta and the major lag issues majority of players have in the game. Until they fix that, there will end up being even more layoffs other than just the customer support of 300.

    So I can understand why you got banned, but i also understand how one sided their support and developers are over there. If they ever do wake up, it more than likely is already to late to bring the game back from what it could have been.
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  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    edited December 2015
    Torval said:
    time007 said:
    mmoluva said:
    You broke the rules. 

    Buy a new account and try whatever you were doing in violation again. 
    I know right? he thinks he's the victim in this.  The real victim is the corporation Zenimax.  and also us and mmorpg.com for having to hear his story.
    Apparently keeping the discussion to gaming and not flaming is when you feel like it. Maybe you could tag your posts /flameon /flameoff.
    well he shouldn't come here looking for help or compassion.  He should know we are going to defend Zenimax to the death.  Hail Zenimax! Hail Sparta!  <goes back to playing ESO and taking a scroll with 3 people, so fun>

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  • reeereeereeereee Member UncommonPosts: 1,636
    aeoliah said:
    @filmoret IMO, You are giving me the worst responses here. Just because you cant farm 1m in a month or get to VR 10 in a month, you think noone can do that? I had a lot of free time this month and if i wanted i could have reached more than vr10, grinding at rift till an extend. 
    Your assumptions make me laugh, i wasn't going to reply to you but i cant stand that much stupidity. You already blamed me few posts back and now you just took it to a whole new level. You should become a judge, you are prolly gonna sentence a kid to death who just stole an apple. You play too casual that it all seems so undoable. But it is and i know many other players do that too. They farm and level very quickly by grinding. Few people dont like this playstyle but thats how i play. I do this for one month to max out then i play casually since i have the stuffs i need. And one more thing, If you really think i bought gold, I dont think people get banned for buying gold in ESO. They get banned for selling. And i didnt do both. 
    I dont know why i am explaining this too, but i didnt sell anything at obnoxious prices in the market, i sell stuff exactly at what MM (mastermerchant addon) suggests me to. 
    This is a strong point.  As much as I hate to say it I've never know anyone in any game ever who's been banned for buying gold, even temporarily, much less permanently.  Hell, I don't even remember Zenimax banning those people who duped their way to a full set of gold endgame gear back when exploits were rampant in the first month or two.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    It's possible that a lot of gold sellers were buying there accounts from there (lowest prices) and that OP's account got flagged because of that combined with the farming done on the account may be what caused the ban.  Hope it works out.

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  • jonp200jonp200 Member UncommonPosts: 457
    edited December 2015
    So G2A by their own terms of service operates a peer seller site. You are in essence buying a game key sold by someone to you and G2A facilitates the sale. They also facilitate the sale of "digital" in game goods aka gold which violates ESO's TOS. 

    So in theory the game key you buy could be legit if it came from a recognized reseller or it could violate the TOS if not or resold;  really rolling the dice. 

    Company is headquartered in Hong Kong with an affiliate in Nevada. 

    Zenimax could have banned you for a used key or just for associating with G2A if they wanted to. 

    Few game companies want to ban people who are a potential source of revenue especially in the FTP market we find ourselves. Based on your profile, I'm guessing they didn't cut you much slack.  (Not pointing a finger just speaking truth)

    Might take thus this as a blessing.  ESO's end game still needs work and surely you can find something better to do than farm gold 5 hours a day?

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  • aeoliahaeoliah Member UncommonPosts: 21
    It's possible that a lot of gold sellers were buying there accounts from there (lowest prices) and that OP's account got flagged because of that combined with the farming done on the account may be what caused the ban.  Hope it works out.
    Thanks @Octagon7711 , I have no hopes of getting it back since i am not getting a reply atall from ZoS after the first mail. I need to confirm that its the cdkey from ZoS before i contact g2a.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    time007 said:
    mmoluva said:
    You broke the rules. 

    Buy a new account and try whatever you were doing in violation again. 
    I know right? he thinks he's the victim in this.  The real victim is the corporation Zenimax.  and also us and mmorpg.com for having to hear his story.
    A victim would imply malice... do you really think there was malice here on either side? A company is really going out of it's way to inconvenience it's players in such a way? It sucks to be banned I"m sure, but your responses are getting quite absurd. Right along with folks who imply idiocy on the part of the OP...

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  • MagikarpsGhostMagikarpsGhost Member RarePosts: 689
    bought one key from g2a and it got nuked by the ban hammer. the one i bought via ZOS websight is fine and has been used since beta. My g2a one was used for a mule account.

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  • aeoliahaeoliah Member UncommonPosts: 21
    Distopia said:
    time007 said:
    mmoluva said:
    You broke the rules. 

    Buy a new account and try whatever you were doing in violation again. 
    I know right? he thinks he's the victim in this.  The real victim is the corporation Zenimax.  and also us and mmorpg.com for having to hear his story.
    A victim would imply malice... do you really think there was malice here on either side? A company is really going out of it's way to inconvenience it's players in such a way? It sucks to be banned I"m sure, but your responses are getting quite absurd. Right along with folks who imply idiocy on the part of the OP...
    You are free to assume whatever you want to. You are not the one who got banned so you wouldn't know other than to assume. If you think i did violate the TOS then so be it, i dont have to prove my innocence to you or anyone here. I made this thread to make people aware as to how little detail they give regarding a ban and how they leave people in the dark. Its me who lost my time. And i do get it, i should have bought it straight from their official site but i have researched quite a bit after my ban and i have found that people who get banned due to invalid cdkeys get a detailed mail stating the reason. All am asking is why am being kept in the dark
    This is the mail they send to people whose cdkey gets compromised. 
    "http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171854/important-your-esotu-account-needs-action"
    I got no such mail. Anyway i am done here, ill update if they reply. Thanks for all the responses.
  • BaitnessBaitness Member UncommonPosts: 675
    jircris said:
    bought one key from g2a and it got nuked by the ban hammer. the one i bought via ZOS websight is fine and has been used since beta. My g2a one was used for a mule account.
    I don't doubt for a second that you and everyone having issues with G2A purchases getting banned are telling the truth, but I did want to chime in with a good experience.  I bought the explorers pack from there back before the crown store existed and had no problems, and have purchased other things there before.

    With only a couple companies doing mass deactivations of products from those sites, it makes me wonder if we are being lied to.  Not by G2A, but by the other companies.  I somehow doubt every copy of FarCry 4 from G2A was originally purchased with a stolen credit card, but that is what Ubisoft tells us.  It strikes me much more like the time publishers tried to make money off used games by selling online passes - they see something cutting into their profit and want it back.  I don't think it is too unreasonable from the publishers perspective, but I don't like being lied to and it feels like I am.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Baitness said:
    jircris said:
    bought one key from g2a and it got nuked by the ban hammer. the one i bought via ZOS websight is fine and has been used since beta. My g2a one was used for a mule account.
    I don't doubt for a second that you and everyone having issues with G2A purchases getting banned are telling the truth, but I did want to chime in with a good experience.  I bought the explorers pack from there back before the crown store existed and had no problems, and have purchased other things there before.

    With only a couple companies doing mass deactivations of products from those sites, it makes me wonder if we are being lied to.  Not by G2A, but by the other companies.  I somehow doubt every copy of FarCry 4 from G2A was originally purchased with a stolen credit card, but that is what Ubisoft tells us.  It strikes me much more like the time publishers tried to make money off used games by selling online passes - they see something cutting into their profit and want it back.  I don't think it is too unreasonable from the publishers perspective, but I don't like being lied to and it feels like I am.
    Your not being lied to, companies like G2A are used by sellers who are either manipulating the grey market, or are laundering cash via selling game keys obtained using stolen CC's, and probably several other methods besides.
    That your as likely to have your game banned because you have a key that was meant for another region, as one that effectively represents a stolen product, is perhaps the only questionable practice, but then you have to consider that both practices hurt the game industry to a greater or lesser degree.
    Personally i am not as bothered by the grey market sales as i am by the stolen CC ones, but then again, i would never dream of using a website like G2A to purchase a game from, i can't afford to be that cheap, besides, if i buy a game, i would prefer that the developers of that game were the main ones to benefit from the sales.
    I want more good games on PC, but its the PC that is often the target of dodgy game key sellers, buyers really need to employ a degree of common sense when it comes to online purchases, its been said over and over, but its still apparently not getting through to some people, that if a game is being sold at a price that is too good to be true, then chances are, it is dodgy in some way or other.
    As long as people get are able to get a refund, then this practice is likely to continue, personally i would prefer it that such refunds were not available, and in such way promote a 'learning curve' to those who for whatever reason, would rather buy from a dodgy source, than a legit one.
  • BaitnessBaitness Member UncommonPosts: 675
    edited December 2015
    Thank you for the insight.   What you are calling "the grey market" is exactly where I thought the keys came from, and as far as I know is completely legal.  Ubisoft is claiming that 100% of sales are stolen when they cancel the keys.  Your post makes it sound like they ARE in fact lying about it.

    What bothers me particularly about this is that there is already a system in place to deal with this - region locked keys are common practice.  If these resellers are purchasing and selling copies of global keys, that seems like something the publisher should have anticipated.

    Keys purchased with a stolen credit card should absolutely be cancelled, but it seems to me publishers are also targeting global keys that are being exchanged across regions.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Well I told him a lot of things that causes suspicion by both the players and zeni.  And his response is I wasn't helping.  Oh well then go figure out why zeni banned you.  Because they haven't banned me.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    time007 said:
    The victim is a fishy ignorant person.  Nuff said...  <must defend zenimax's honor>  <must victim blame> <must play devil's advocate because i'm trying to prove to people im clever>  <flails arms around like a robot mindlessly>
    My only character is level 10 and I haven't logged in for half a year. I don't have the slightest interest in defending Zenimax nor any other company.

    In short the story of the OP goes like this:
    I bought a key from a dubious source then I kept farming a zone over and over again until I made an insane amount of money in a very short time. Then I pressed the print screen key which crashed my game and right at that moment I got banned.

    I have been a GM with the duty of hunting bots for 10 years now and this story is so cliché that it amuses me. Something I have heard hundreds of times - the only thing that is missing to round it up is the part where it's his little sister farming for him and she doesn't speak English so she couldn't answer when other players tried to talk to the character.

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  • tom_goretom_gore Member UncommonPosts: 2,001
    My first key, bought from a key selling site was also removed from my account. They didn't ban my account though, just removed game access and I got it back by buying a legit key from their store.

    Sorry to hear but you've now learned what I did - don't buy keys from anywhere but official resellers or the game site directly.

  • aeoliahaeoliah Member UncommonPosts: 21
    edited December 2015
    Dakeru said:
    time007 said:
    The victim is a fishy ignorant person.  Nuff said...  <must defend zenimax's honor>  <must victim blame> <must play devil's advocate because i'm trying to prove to people im clever>  <flails arms around like a robot mindlessly>
    My only character is level 10 and I haven't logged in for half a year. I don't have the slightest interest in defending Zenimax nor any other company.

    In short the story of the OP goes like this:
    I bought a key from a dubious source then I kept farming a zone over and over again until I made an insane amount of money in a very short time. Then I pressed the print screen key which crashed my game and right at that moment I got banned.

    I have been a GM with the duty of hunting bots for 10 years now and this story is so cliché that it amuses me. Something I have heard hundreds of times - the only thing that is missing to round it up is the part where it's his little sister farming for him and she doesn't speak English so she couldn't answer when other players tried to talk to the character.

    There is a difference between giving someone the benefit of doubt or believing in fairy tales.
    Thank you. That was the only thing left as far as assumptions go. Thank you Mr. EX Gm. Yes i was botting. Bravo. CASE closed. That was the TOS violation. Stupid me, i have no clue why i was blaming ZOS or even g2a. 

    You really think they will unban me if i post a thread here? No. Why would i even waste my time here if i was actually botting and got banned, to get sympathy for such a blatant violation? Like i said i dont have to prove myself to you GM SIR, i havent used bots in any of the games that i have played infact ZOS doesnt even ban bots. Even in craglorn where i farmed my gold i see 2-3 bots and i even remember their name which was "God" in ascii letters. If you go to craglorn right now you would see them running around (Daggerfall Covenant - my alliance). I used to steal ores from bots that would stand idle in-front of crafting nodes. I already stated a couple of times why i even posted this here in the first place. You can keep your clever assumptions to yourself. SIR GM lmao. 
  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    aeoliah said:
    Dakeru said:
    time007 said:
    The victim is a fishy ignorant person.  Nuff said...  <must defend zenimax's honor>  <must victim blame> <must play devil's advocate because i'm trying to prove to people im clever>  <flails arms around like a robot mindlessly>
    My only character is level 10 and I haven't logged in for half a year. I don't have the slightest interest in defending Zenimax nor any other company.

    In short the story of the OP goes like this:
    I bought a key from a dubious source then I kept farming a zone over and over again until I made an insane amount of money in a very short time. Then I pressed the print screen key which crashed my game and right at that moment I got banned.

    I have been a GM with the duty of hunting bots for 10 years now and this story is so cliché that it amuses me. Something I have heard hundreds of times - the only thing that is missing to round it up is the part where it's his little sister farming for him and she doesn't speak English so she couldn't answer when other players tried to talk to the character.

    There is a difference between giving someone the benefit of doubt or believing in fairy tales.
    Thank you. That was the only thing left as far as assumptions go. Thank you Mr. EX Gm. Yes i was botting. Bravo. CASE closed. That was the TOS violation. Stupid me, i have no clue why i was blaming ZOS or even g2a. 

    You really think they will unban me if i post a thread here? No. Why would i even waste my time here if i was actually botting and got banned, to get sympathy for such a blatant violation? Like i said i dont have to prove myself to you GM SIR, i havent used bots in any of the games that i have played infact ZOS doesnt even ban bots. Even in craglorn where i farmed my gold i see 2-3 bots and i even remember their name which was "God" in ascii letters. If you go to craglorn right now you would see them running around. I used to steal ores from bots that would stand idle in-front of crafting nodes. I already stated a couple of times why i even posted this here in the first place. You can keep your clever assumptions to yourself. SIR GM lmao. 
    Been playing ESO off and on (mostly on) since launch.  Every time I hear a story like this (and there have been several), it turns out that Zenimax banned the account for a very good reason.  

    Bash the game and it's customer service all you want, but in my opinion this is just evidence that they are protecting the game and it's economy from fraudulent accounts. 
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