Vive VR Headset Preorders to Open February 29th - General News

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Vive VR Headset Preorders to Open February 29th - General News

The Telegraph is reporting that the Vive virtual reality headset will be ready for preorder on February (yes, 2016 is a leap year!). There is no word on the cost but popular speculation is that it will be about the same as the Oculus Rift at $600.

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Righteous_Rock

Oculus rift will set the upper limit to price, if not why would anyone buy into any other vr outside of a Microsoft or sony unit and I say sony only for ps4 users. Basically if I did buy vr, I would only by oculus or a Microsoft product.

Mikeha

HTC Vive is the one that interest me the most.

Nanfoodle

VastoHorde said:

HTC Vive is the one that interest me the most.

Why?

SEANMCAD

Nanfoodle said:

VastoHorde said:

HTC Vive is the one that interest me the most.

Why?

its more accurate
it has a camera on the front so you can see outside if you need to or even a AR solution.
Its 12 foot playable walk around space AND more accurate for controls that Oculus is.

I will say though I will be completely floored and stunned if it costs even the same as Oculus I predict about 50% more

Kiyoris

no word on the cost bu speculation is that it will be about the same as the Oculus Rift at $600.

I see

SEANMCAD

Kiyoris said:

no word on the cost bu speculation is that it will be about the same as the Oculus Rift at $600.

I see

they sell out sell out sell out.

they are always selling out. why does oculus continue to always sell out of headsets?

Kiyoris

SEANMCAD said:

they sell out

2014



2015

SEANMCAD

Kiyoris said:

SEANMCAD said:

they sell out

did google glass sell out 4 TIMES?

SEANMCAD

Torval said:

SEANMCAD said:

Kiyoris said:

no word on the cost bu speculation is that it will be about the same as the Oculus Rift at $600.

I see

they sell out sell out sell out.

they are always selling out. why does oculus continue to always sell out of headsets?

There are 10,000 people that want it. They make 5,000 headsets and PR takes off with "it's sold out again". Rocket science in action.

you have your numbers wrong its 50,000

where did you get your numbers from? from your......

PottedPlant22

SEANMCAD said:

it has a camera on the front so you can see outside if you need to or even a AR solution.
Its 12 foot playable walk around space AND more accurate for controls that Oculus is.

What makes it more accurate?  Is there a link to read up on that compared to Oculus?  I've been looking for comparisons between the two and would love to dive into something that breaks this part down for me. I'm guessing this is the latency time to motion?

SEANMCAD

PottedPlant22 said:

SEANMCAD said:

it has a camera on the front so you can see outside if you need to or even a AR solution.
Its 12 foot playable walk around space AND more accurate for controls that Oculus is.

What makes it more accurate?  Is there a link to read up on that compared to Oculus?  I've been looking for comparisons between the two and would love to dive into something that breaks this part down for me. I'm guessing this is the latency time to motion?

multiple external mounted lasers that map your exact position in telemetry

might I suggest doing some research?

SEANMCAD

Torval said:

SEANMCAD said:

Torval said:

SEANMCAD said:

Kiyoris said:

no word on the cost bu speculation is that it will be about the same as the Oculus Rift at $600.

I see

they sell out sell out sell out.

they are always selling out. why does oculus continue to always sell out of headsets?

There are 10,000 people that want it. They make 5,000 headsets and PR takes off with "it's sold out again". Rocket science in action.

you have your numbers wrong its 50,000

where did you get your numbers from? from your......

I didn't realize they made 50k units. Could you link that number. I would like to read more about it.

http://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-reveals-175000-rift-development-kits-sold/

and yes...DK versions DO matter, as well as GearVR

SEANMCAD

Torval said:

SEANMCAD said:

Torval said:

SEANMCAD said:

Torval said:

There are 10,000 people that want it. They make 5,000 headsets and PR takes off with "it's sold out again". Rocket science in action.

you have your numbers wrong its 50,000

where did you get your numbers from? from your......

I didn't realize they made 50k units. Could you link that number. I would like to read more about it.

http://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-reveals-175000-rift-development-kits-sold/

and yes...DK versions DO matter, as well as GearVR

So you don't know how many they've produced this round. It's not necessarily 50k. You're just making things up... again. How many did they make? You. Don't. Know. You really shouldn't give anyone else heat about fabricated numbers if you're doing the same thing.

My example was hypothetical with fabricated numbers to illustrate a point. I made them up to prove a point, one that has been driven home countless times on these threads but you refuse to accept. That "sold out" is meaningless without solid factual numbers as a base point.

So let's say they made 50k and there are 65k that want them. So what? In the technical sector, for a release product, how is that a success in any way shape or form. Imagine if Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo made 50k units of their new console and claimed sold out. They would be a laughing stock once those numbers were published. Rift selling out is fine and all but the importance of the point is limited.

I am making things up based on what is known.

Many here are making things up using ZERO data points at all...zero zip nada nothing. I have > 0 as in more data points than nothing.

So I could be wrong and they could be right but at this time its bizzare to think given the history of Oculus sales that they would go online thinking they will get no more than 10 pre-orders. even suggesting that makes me think one is just trolling

Anthur

Without numbers the "sold out" tag is rather a warning for a cheap marketing trick than a product recommendation.

SEANMCAD

Anthur said:

Without numbers the "sold out" tag is rather a warning for a cheap marketing trick than a product recommendation.

your conclusion is far more speculative then anything I have suggested. The reason they dont reveal pre-order sales numbers is for legal accounting reasons. its not a conclusion of marketing trick by even a speculative guess

psiic

They are obviously having inventory issues maybe they should have held off on shipping the free retail units to the DK people until they had an inventory surplus. When you have " nice guy" techies making business decisions instead of financial business managers you always get piss poor cash management.

No worries though that is why companies like this always get raided by the big dogs. Someone will come in to solve their money issue, before they realize what happened Amazon or Sony or EA or someone will own them, cut the quality, use cheaper materials, obliterate the customer service and be dropping these headsets on the market at the $300 price point.

SEANMCAD

psiic said:

They are obviously having inventory issues maybe they should have held off on shipping the free retail units to the DK people until they had an inventory surplus. When you have " nice guy" techies making business decisions instead of financial business managers you always get piss poor cash management.

1. its not obvious
2. how is it physically possible to have a 'inventory surplus' without any orders in place?

psiic

SEANMCAD said:

psiic said:

They are obviously having inventory issues maybe they should have held off on shipping the free retail units to the DK people until they had an inventory surplus. When you have " nice guy" techies making business decisions instead of financial business managers you always get piss poor cash management.

1. its not obvious
2. how is it physically possible to have a 'inventory surplus' without any orders in place?

How is it not obvious? Limit 1 per customer and an estimated June shipping date? Give me a break order today and you will be lucky to have it for Christmas 2016. 

They have orders too many orders to fill, they will go find an investor like you see on the Shark Tank to fill the purchase orders. Next thing that investor owns the majority of the company and sells it out from under them.

SEANMCAD

psiic said:

SEANMCAD said:

psiic said:

They are obviously having inventory issues maybe they should have held off on shipping the free retail units to the DK people until they had an inventory surplus. When you have " nice guy" techies making business decisions instead of financial business managers you always get piss poor cash management.

1. its not obvious
2. how is it physically possible to have a 'inventory surplus' without any orders in place?

How is it not obvious? Limit 1 per customer and an estimated June shipping date? Give me a break order today and you will be lucky to have it for Christmas 2016. 

They have orders too many orders to fill, they will go find an investor like you see on the Shark Tank to fill the purchase orders. Next thing that investor owns the majority of the company and sells it out from under them.

let me ask you a question

are these two situations the same and both should be called 'having inventory issues'

1. Demand is 1 billion, supply is .8 billion
2. Demand is 30 supply is 20.

zanfire

They only "sold out" of the march orders which for all we know was a couple thousand. You can still order them right now if you want, you just have to wait longer because they are doing the weird wave sales thing again.

Also they dont have too many to fill, noone has paid for it yet and there are plenty of people holding off to see what the Vive is priced at or just holding a spot "just incase". They recently just killed off a bunch of ebay sales because people as usual are trying to scalp like they do with a new console.

As others have said the Vive is technically superior when it comes to tracking due to the lighthouse design and the camera for the chaperon system. Outside of that the HMDs screens and whatnot will be very close to one another in terms of specs. Price will likely be the same or more, but at the same price or lower if you dont care about the exclusives for the rift the Vive is the more complete experience of the 2.

SEANMCAD

zanfire said:

They only "sold out" of the march orders which for all we know was a couple thousand. 

wait what? I am been looking forward to getting a number. where did you get that info? could you please link it I am not saying that to be a ___ it just sounds like you heard something specific, please share

saker

Kiyoris said:

SEANMCAD said:

they sell out


2014



2015





Well said! Agree 100%!

SpottyGekko

Well, it's going to be a VERY interesting year as the VR batlle-lines are drawn, lol

Vive is arguably the smallest kid on the block. Oculus is backed by Facebook's massive wallet and advertising machine, whereas Sony have a captive market in the PS4 players.

The fact that Vive haven't announced a price yet probably means they're watching Oculus's opening moves very closely, as well as watching public reaction like a hawk. How long will they hold back on that price announcement ?

Phry

SpottyGekko said:

Well, it's going to be a VERY interesting year as the VR batlle-lines are drawn, lol

Vive is arguably the smallest kid on the block. Oculus is backed by Facebook's massive wallet and advertising machine, whereas Sony have a captive market in the PS4 players.

The fact that Vive haven't announced a price yet probably means they're watching Oculus's opening moves very closely, as well as watching public reaction like a hawk. How long will they hold back on that price announcement ?

Probably until they know how much Sony is going to sell theirs for, Rift is now a known quantity so the only reason to hold back, is because of the Sony VR. I think everyone pretty much is waiting to see what price Sony puts theirs out at, as it could change everything.

zanfire

SEANMCAD said:

zanfire said:
They only "sold out" of the march orders which for all we know was a couple thousand. 

wait what? I am been looking forward to getting a number. where did you get that info? could you please link it I am not saying that to be a ___ it just sounds like you heard something specific, please share


Like i said "for all we know" is nothing definitive. The only thing that was definitive was that the only thing that sold out was march orders which is still odd to me they are selling in waves like this. They also did give away what was around 6,000 iirc to backers who would be getting first wave. That alone could have been a large chunk. I think if they sold hundreds of thousands they would have been bragging about the numbers right away