AND...

Kopogero

...still need a GOOD GAME BADLY! This is just one example where our $ are useless when the product we want, hope to get is missing. My requirements also are as low as possible, so I can have as many options available to choose from.

The most concerning thing is though how I'm now in mid February, almost two months have gone by in 2016 and I honestly don't know how much longer I'll wait until I'll find a product I'll be enjoying long term, which by the way is not my problem, but these producers job if they want to sell their product. Yes, their job is to create products that are seen "enjoyable" and if they cannot do that they are failing at their job, it's that simple.

So, please bring ONE game, yes ONE game that's released out there where I won't be done with after few months top, which usually happens due to lack of content, things left to do, that of course are meaningful, not things like go level your hero 25x times to lvl 1-60 so your color changes to orange, or go kill those rats 100,000 times to get rat master title, or go PvP in this arena endlessly times for some rank on some website/board, or do those daily quests over and over and over and over...

ONE GAME, ONE GAME, and please don't even bother bringing single player games. I retired those ever since I got my hands on PC and for good reason why.

rojoArcueid

You need to speak for yourself, there are many online games out there that are good. Take a break and play some sports or something. You clearly dont want to play video games right now. Forcing yourself wont do you any good.

If you still insist, go play GW1. Start with prophecies, then Factions, then Nightfall, then Eye of the North.
Everything in that game is meaningful, fun, challenging, fantastic.

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simsalabim77

Go play EVE. 

Kopogero

Wasn't Guild Wars 1 this themepark game with a story, achievements, etc.? PvP was as I recall about chasing those 10000 wins achievements. I never bought the expansions for a reason...and why I avoided Guild Wars 2.

Arena Net failed its playerbase since it gave up on the game to make a sequel to it. That itself says everything and they only did it because once those rides were finished so was its player base.

simsalabim77

Kopogero said:

Wasn't Guild Wars 1 this themepark game with a story, achievements, etc.? PvP was as I recall about chasing those 10000 wins achievements. I never bought the expansions for a reason...and why I avoided Guild Wars 2.

Arena Net failed its playerbase since it gave up on the game to make a sequel to it. That itself says everything and they only did it because once those rides were finished so was its player base.

Is it painful to constantly be eating sour grapes? 

rojoArcueid

Kopogero said:

Wasn't Guild Wars 1 this themepark game with a story, achievements, etc.? PvP was as I recall about chasing those 10000 wins achievements. I never bought the expansions for a reason...and why I avoided Guild Wars 2.

Arena Net failed its playerbase since it gave up on the game to make a sequel to it. That itself says everything and they only did it because once those rides were finished so was its player base.

Go outside and have a life. You stopped caring about video games long ago. Everything sucks to you.

DeathRowInmate

Kopogero said:

...still need a GOOD GAME BADLY! This is just one example where our $ are useless when the product we want, hope to get is missing. My requirements also are as low as possible, so I can have as many options available to choose from.

The most concerning thing is though how I'm now in mid February, almost two months have gone by in 2016 and I honestly don't know how much longer I'll wait until I'll find a product I'll be enjoying long term, which by the way is not my problem, but these producers job if they want to sell their product. Yes, their job is to create products that are seen "enjoyable" and if they cannot do that they are failing at their job, it's that simple.

So, please bring ONE game, yes ONE game that's released out there where I won't be done with after few months top, which usually happens due to lack of content, things left to do, that of course are meaningful, not things like go level your hero 25x times to lvl 1-60 so your color changes to orange, or go kill those rats 100,000 times to get rat master title, or go PvP in this arena endlessly times for some rank on some website/board, or do those daily quests over and over and over and over...

ONE GAME, ONE GAME, and please don't even bother bringing single player games. I retired those ever since I got my hands on PC and for good reason why.

Village and Heroes.

Its like Runescape meets WoW.  The story is somewhat interesting.  There seems like theres lots to do ( i only started this week) Its cartooney but still has beautiful graphics.  Found it on steam.  And the population is really helpful and friendly. My only gripe is theres o pvp,  which is something I usally avoid a game if it doesnt have. But hey, sometimes you just gotta give some things a try.

Anyway, its one of the many games I log into every week. Not sure why you have such a problem finding games. The problem is I dont have enough time to play all the games I have, its hard to just choose which one/ones im going to play today.

GeezerGamer

BUT...

Kopogero

I would played EVE if the game wasn't so P2W. EVE endgame is....
1) Buy decade old account so you don't wait years on passive skill training
2) Sell plex with $ to get currency.
3) Use that currency on a 10x multibox accounts so you can command 10+ ships at a same time.
4) Wait for guildies to do same so you can get 100 ship ready.
5) Win the war in whatever section to control and build whatever buildings you destroyed there.

Distopia

"I hate video games! which one should I play?"

Sovrath

Kopogero said:

...still need a GOOD GAME BADLY! This is just one example where our $ are useless when the product we want, hope to get is missing. My requirements also are as low as possible, so I can have as many options available to choose from.

The most concerning thing is though how I'm now in mid February, almost two months have gone by in 2016 and I honestly don't know how much longer I'll wait until I'll find a product I'll be enjoying long term, which by the way is not my problem, but these producers job if they want to sell their product. Yes, their job is to create products that are seen "enjoyable" and if they cannot do that they are failing at their job, it's that simple.

So, please bring ONE game, yes ONE game that's released out there where I won't be done with after few months top, which usually happens due to lack of content, things left to do, that of course are meaningful, not things like go level your hero 25x times to lvl 1-60 so your color changes to orange, or go kill those rats 100,000 times to get rat master title, or go PvP in this arena endlessly times for some rank on some website/board, or do those daily quests over and over and over and over...

ONE GAME, ONE GAME, and please don't even bother bringing single player games. I retired those ever since I got my hands on PC and for good reason why.

Don't you already have a thread with people in it who have contributed? And I think I asked you the question about whether you are the guy who prides himself on not paying for games?

In any case, you know the landscape as well as anyone here, not one thing you have said pertains to any modern themepark.

Maybe if one of the smaller indy mmo's gets released you might find something. Then again, you will have to pay for those.

simsalabim77

Kopogero said:

I would played EVE if the game wasn't so P2W. EVE endgame is....
1) Buy decade old account so you don't wait years on passive skill training
2) Sell plex with $ to get currency.
3) Use that currency on a 10x multibox accounts so you can command 10+ ships at a same time.
4) Wait for guildies to do same so you can get 100 ship ready.
5) Win the war in whatever section to control and build whatever buildings you destroyed there.

As usual, you're completely clueless. 

edit: To be more helpful I can explain to you why all that is wrong and point you in a direction where you won't have to worry about any of that, but I suspect it won't make any difference. 

Kopogero

I wonder how long will it be until someone delivers what SOE did last with SWG, which was in 2003. What they did is they created a MMORPG featuring 25-30 professions that players could choose from with set of skill points for hybrid characters as well as one to unlock the jedi, that was also unique to the player to discover how.

They delivered a fully open world MMORPG with many planets, featuring full cities, with player built houses, hospitals, guild halls, shuttle ports, cities, etc. There was player crafted weapons, armor, clothing, foods, druids and many other things.

The world had unique harvesting system where those who focused on surveying, mining constantly searched for these quality resources. Then you had factions, you had worlds to explore and rare, powerful creatures to slay. You had bounties chasing you, you had the jedi trials. You could hire troopers, AT-AT to fight alongside you through faction points. You could build faction headquarters in regions, as well as turrets and other defenses to protect them.

You simply had a breathing, living, virtual, immersive world with day and night cycles, weather, amazing music, ambience, and the best IP you could ask...For whatever time it lasted I indeed felt like I was part of the Star Wars universe and learned so much about it...

This game was released in 2003 and that was the last time I saw such game with such complexity, depth, and immersion....Everyone who bought the box and subbed to the game had only one character slot to choose his path, until they unlocked jedi.

That was the last time I saw such game with such complexity, depth, and immersion....This is called a "MMORPG".

holdenhamlet

Oh you're one of those SWG guys.

Everything sucks cause it's not SWG.

Wighty

Hey Kop... It really seems as if your ideal game is so niche that it caters only to you...

Currently there is no MMORPG that suits your crieria or at least none that I know of... You mentioned SWG but it's dead Jim, unless of course you want to jump on a emulator.

There is a lot coming down the pipeline but most still have a while to marinate.

While you ruled out SP RPG's you may want to at least consider maybe not so massive games like ARK.

Personally I have been giving the latest patch of Firefall a try and it's not terrible despite all the "sky is falling" rabble.

Trove is a damn fun time waster as well...

With the Repopulation off the table for a while the only game I can even think of that comes close to a classic SWG experience is Fallen Earth.

Amaranthar

holdenhamlet said:

Oh you're one of those SWG guys.

Everything sucks cause it's not SWG.

No, Kopo's one of those Virtual World gamers who've long suffered like so many others.

Amathe

As much as I am guilty of this myself, it does no good to bemoan the closing of a game you really liked (or to rail against the new ones you don't). If it were otherwise, we would have City of Heroes back again. 

Sovrath

Xodic said:

It seems like you are using these threads to shine light on the flaws of mainstream MMORPGs

That's exactly what he's doing.

flizzer

blueturtle13 said:

Eye of the North was one of my favorite expansions/games ever. Such great content. Well worth playing even today.

Totally agree with this.   Loved the asura story.  

Kopogero

Black Desert was on my radar for a while. In fact unlike ArenaNet with GW2 asking $60 for the box, these guys are more realistic with $30. The game seems to be really well done at the core, but lacks severely once endgame is reached...With its themepark design I feel like I'll be stuck with nothing to do very shortly after I reach max level.

I also don't like the whole mass zerging castle siege PvP concept...and more importantly I don't like games that take 2 years until they come to certain regions. This makes them well known to many already and giving them significant advantage when the game finally launches.

Zen00

holdenhamlet said:

Oh you're one of those SWG guys.

Everything sucks cause it's not SWG.

Personally I'm one of those GW1 guys, everything sucks because it's not Guild Wars 1.

Vaross

There was already a thread about this topic a week ago, which can be found here:  http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/445392/need-good-game-badly#latest

Please continue to use it for further discussion.