Have the character fidelity and decency to quote everything. Not just the things fitting your pathetic crusade.
But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is
"incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas
to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting
and encouraging, he said.
Also, CR was right about armchair developers and CEO's. Everyone behind a keyboard knows how to develop and run a project better than the people in charge.All game forums are filled with them.
On second thought, talking to you about decency and character fidelity is like talking to my parrot about quantum physics
Talk about leaving the important bits out....lol...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I Love the title of arm chair developer, Star Citizen may not be the most diplomatic people in the way somethings are said. So what? His message seems pretty straight. hehe arm chair developer is awsome
The only thing that really crosses my mind reading the headline and that made me come to this thread and post is, what do u get from posting this thread ???
Really, what is ur intension ?
Starcitizen will be bigger and more upscale in every possible way than any other mmo out there..
Is it because u and the other extreme critics cant grasp the size of the mmo they are building, i can understand that.. Otherwise let them build the game first.
If he CR / they fail, then start the slander Express and go ballistic,
So tired of reading posts from forum trolls, trying to tear the Work of SC to pieces with slander..
Nothing that is used in a competitive game environment should be sold for real world money. The fact that the ships can also be earned in-game is meaningless. That should be the ONLY way to obtain ships.
After launch that IS the ONLY way to obtain ships larger than the two basic starter ships. Those being the equivalent to a starter character in another MMO ... because everyone needs a ship in a spacesim game to get started.
This has been confirmed in various official statements (which have been linked often in this subforum)
There has been a lot of speculation that CIG will continue to sell larger ships after launch day. Until that day comes it will be nothing more than that ... speculation.
After the million of games that were put out only a "few" that are truly a game..By rights you want my money for your crap game; i have the right to be a game developer regardless!
"But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting and encouraging, he said.
Doesn't sound like a scandal to me.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
I think its helpful in life to not get squirmish and cry in a corner when someone speaks the truth.
if you have never written any good amount of code (as in more than a weekend) or never been close a software project in any professional sense but you seem to suggest you know what developers can and can not and should and should not do then exactly what you one call that?
it doesnt suggest you should not state your views and its not to say your views are even wrong. but to cry in the corner when someone calls you a 'arm chair developer' is just asking to be picked on frankly
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Im so glad I wasn't waiting/following or even interested in this game. But Once you go crowd funded to help support or fund your game you have to realize your everyone's Bitch He needs to get some PR lessons from the Likes of Mark Jacobs or Richard Garriot with keeping people informed update and content with investing money into there project.
Im so glad I wasn't waiting/following or even interested in this game. But Once you go crowd funded to help support or fund your game you have to realize your everyone's Bitch He needs to get some PR lessons from the Likes of Mark Jacobs or Richard Garriot with keeping people informed update and content with investing money into there project.
I am not a fan of this project. I think he is way over his head, not a good project manager but one thing I also think is that he is one of the best PR/Marketing heads I have ever seen in the industry. Who else could get people to buy $1000 space ships? come on. They also seem to spend more time, money and effort communicating to the consumers then they do actually making anything.
so i am afraid I have to disagree with you there
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Im so glad I wasn't waiting/following or even interested in this game. But Once you go crowd funded to help support or fund your game you have to realize your everyone's Bitch He needs to get some PR lessons from the Likes of Mark Jacobs or Richard Garriot with keeping people informed update and content with investing money into there project.
I am not a fan of this project. I think he is way over his head, not a good project manager but one thing I also think is that he is one of the best PR/Marketing heads I have ever seen in the industry. Who else could get people to buy $1000 space ships? come on. They also seem to spend more time, money and effort communicating to the consumers then they do actually making anything.
so i am afraid I have to disagree with you there
Hes good at the first point which many snake salesman are but he fails on the 2nd points of informing keeping them updated and content a point he even said he should have done . Maybe he will learn and become stronger or maybe he will put his foot in his mouth and stumble
Im so glad I wasn't waiting/following or even interested in this game. But Once you go crowd funded to help support or fund your game you have to realize your everyone's Bitch He needs to get some PR lessons from the Likes of Mark Jacobs or Richard Garriot with keeping people informed update and content with investing money into there project.
I am not a fan of this project. I think he is way over his head, not a good project manager but one thing I also think is that he is one of the best PR/Marketing heads I have ever seen in the industry. Who else could get people to buy $1000 space ships? come on. They also seem to spend more time, money and effort communicating to the consumers then they do actually making anything.
so i am afraid I have to disagree with you there
Hes good at the first point which many snake salesman are but he fails on the 2nd points of informing keeping them updated and content a point he even said he should have done . Maybe he will learn and become stronger or maybe he will put his foot in his mouth and stumble
oh I could not disagree more. In fact I think the amount of time and engery they focus on communication with the consumers is one of the main problems with the project to begin with.
They communicate so much I often wonder if they actualy do any coding and given the delays that seems to support my year long feeling on this subject.
They need to talk less and work more
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Im so glad I wasn't waiting/following or even interested in this game. But Once you go crowd funded to help support or fund your game you have to realize your everyone's Bitch He needs to get some PR lessons from the Likes of Mark Jacobs or Richard Garriot with keeping people informed update and content with investing money into there project.
I am not a fan of this project. I think he is way over his head, not a good project manager but one thing I also think is that he is one of the best PR/Marketing heads I have ever seen in the industry. Who else could get people to buy $1000 space ships? come on. They also seem to spend more time, money and effort communicating to the consumers then they do actually making anything.
so i am afraid I have to disagree with you there
A good PR/Marketing would have been planned in the long run and will never have to censor or stalk own and other social plattforms in any case. So i am afraid I have to disagree with you there.
When you have cake, it is not the cake that creates the most magnificent of experiences, but it is the emotions attached to it. The cake is a lie.
Im so glad I wasn't waiting/following or even interested in this game. But Once you go crowd funded to help support or fund your game you have to realize your everyone's Bitch He needs to get some PR lessons from the Likes of Mark Jacobs or Richard Garriot with keeping people informed update and content with investing money into there project.
I am not a fan of this project. I think he is way over his head, not a good project manager but one thing I also think is that he is one of the best PR/Marketing heads I have ever seen in the industry. Who else could get people to buy $1000 space ships? come on. They also seem to spend more time, money and effort communicating to the consumers then they do actually making anything.
so i am afraid I have to disagree with you there
A good PR/Marketing would have been planned in the long run and will never have to censor or stalk own and other social plattforms in any case. So i am afraid I have to disagree with you there.
yeah we will have to disagree completely for sure.
To be clear i hold the position that one of the key reasons why I am leary of this project is because they seem to spend more time and money talking to the community then they do writing actual code and THAT is a major problem. regardless of WHAT is being said, its a misallocation of resources
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
As a proud union69 arm chair developer I say leave the man alone! He has given you Gary Oldman in a video game and all you do is complain complain complain.
As a proud union69 arm chair developer I say leave the man alone! He has given you Gary Oldman in a video game and all you do is complain complain complain.
exactly!
and besides, why do some people in this forum seem to think he was refering to them in first place?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
"But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting and encouraging, he said.
Doesn't sound like a scandal to me.
Of course this would be missed out, this is how the OP and many like him work. Pick and choose what fits their PoV. That's why cant take the thread seriously, all up for people sharing their concerns, but this is juts over the top. It just trolling now
"But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting and encouraging, he said.
Doesn't sound like a scandal to me.
Of course this would be missed out, this is how the OP and many like him work. Pick and choose what fits their PoV. That's why cant take the thread seriously, all up for people sharing their concerns, but this is juts over the top. It just trolling now
funny thing is despite CR saying 'Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," ' it makes me wonder why some here instinctively assumed he was refering to them when saying 'armchair'...HA! they walked right into their own disaster
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I think its helpful in life to not get squirmish and cry in a corner when someone speaks the truth.
if you have never written any good amount of code (as in more than a weekend) or never been close a software project in any professional sense but you seem to suggest you know what developers can and can not and should and should not do then exactly what you one call that?
it doesnt suggest you should not state your views and its not to say your views are even wrong. but to cry in the corner when someone calls you a 'arm chair developer' is just asking to be picked on frankly
The thing is it doesn't take a developer to see the red flags in this project. A PM's job at it's core is to manage a project to completion by a specific due date given limited resources. The limiting factor may be time or money as they are often interchangeable (you can finish a project faster with more money sometimes) but at the end of the day there are always limits. SC from the outside seems to be a project being run on the assumption that they have as much time and money as they want to finish it. That might be the case for now but I promise you it won't last forever. There will come a day when the willingness of backers to continue to pour money into this project thus buying SC time will end and than what does SC do? Do they release the game in the state it's in at that time? What if they have not completed all the concept ships? What if major pieces are missing?
My bet is that when that day does come we will see the chairman blaming all the naysayers for poisoning the community to the point where they couldn't deliver the game as it should have been.
"Now you have a million game designers, a million arm chair developers, a million CEOs [telling us what to do]," Roberts explained.
But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting and encouraging, he said."
Come on folks SC is not getting into mmorpg.com's top 10. More posts are needed. That way more people will find out about it and decide for themselves whether to check it out.
"Now you have a million game designers, a million arm chair developers, a million CEOs [telling us what to do]," Roberts explained.
But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting and encouraging, he said."
Come on folks SC is not getting into mmorpg.com's top 10. More posts are needed. That way more people will find out about it and decide for themselves whether to check it out.
More trolling needed.
and for some reason many here assume he was refering to them as arm chair. hmmm I wonder why they would assume that
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I think its helpful in life to not get squirmish and cry in a corner when someone speaks the truth.
if you have never written any good amount of code (as in more than a weekend) or never been close a software project in any professional sense but you seem to suggest you know what developers can and can not and should and should not do then exactly what you one call that?
it doesnt suggest you should not state your views and its not to say your views are even wrong. but to cry in the corner when someone calls you a 'arm chair developer' is just asking to be picked on frankly
The thing is it doesn't take a developer to see the red flags in this project. A PM's job at it's core is to manage a project to completion by a specific due date given limited resources. The limiting factor may be time or money as they are often interchangeable (you can finish a project faster with more money sometimes) but at the end of the day there are always limits. SC from the outside seems to be a project being run on the assumption that they have as much time and money as they want to finish it. That might be the case for now but I promise you it won't last forever. There will come a day when the willingness of backers to continue to pour money into this project thus buying SC time will end and than what does SC do? Do they release the game in the state it's in at that time? What if they have not completed all the concept ships? What if major pieces are missing?
My bet is that when that day does come we will see the chairman blaming all the naysayers for poisoning the community to the point where they couldn't deliver the game as it should have been.
He will blame DS. CR will never take the blame for anything with this game.
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@McSnuffles...
The only thing that really crosses my mind reading the headline and that made me come to this thread and post is, what do u get from posting this thread ???
Really, what is ur intension ?
Starcitizen will be bigger and more upscale in every possible way than any other mmo out there..
Is it because u and the other extreme critics cant grasp the size of the mmo they are building, i can understand that.. Otherwise let them build the game first.
If he CR / they fail, then start the slander Express and go ballistic,
So tired of reading posts from forum trolls, trying to tear the Work of SC to pieces with slander..
Have a great day all :P
This has been confirmed in various official statements (which have been linked often in this subforum)
There has been a lot of speculation that CIG will continue to sell larger ships after launch day. Until that day comes it will be nothing more than that ... speculation.
Have fun
I retired retroactively..Haha
Doesn't sound like a scandal to me.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
if you have never written any good amount of code (as in more than a weekend) or never been close a software project in any professional sense but you seem to suggest you know what developers can and can not and should and should not do then exactly what you one call that?
it doesnt suggest you should not state your views and its not to say your views are even wrong. but to cry in the corner when someone calls you a 'arm chair developer' is just asking to be picked on frankly
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Who else could get people to buy $1000 space ships? come on.
They also seem to spend more time, money and effort communicating to the consumers then they do actually making anything.
so i am afraid I have to disagree with you there
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Maybe he will learn and become stronger or maybe he will put his foot in his mouth and stumble
They communicate so much I often wonder if they actualy do any coding and given the delays that seems to support my year long feeling on this subject.
They need to talk less and work more
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
So i am afraid I have to disagree with you there.
When you have cake, it is not the cake that creates the most magnificent of experiences, but it is the emotions attached to it.
The cake is a lie.
To be clear i hold the position that one of the key reasons why I am leary of this project is because they seem to spend more time and money talking to the community then they do writing actual code and THAT is a major problem. regardless of WHAT is being said, its a misallocation of resources
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
As a proud union69 arm chair developer I say leave the man alone! He has given you Gary Oldman in a video game and all you do is complain complain complain.
and besides, why do some people in this forum seem to think he was refering to them in first place?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
The thing is it doesn't take a developer to see the red flags in this project. A PM's job at it's core is to manage a project to completion by a specific due date given limited resources. The limiting factor may be time or money as they are often interchangeable (you can finish a project faster with more money sometimes) but at the end of the day there are always limits. SC from the outside seems to be a project being run on the assumption that they have as much time and money as they want to finish it. That might be the case for now but I promise you it won't last forever. There will come a day when the willingness of backers to continue to pour money into this project thus buying SC time will end and than what does SC do? Do they release the game in the state it's in at that time? What if they have not completed all the concept ships? What if major pieces are missing?
My bet is that when that day does come we will see the chairman blaming all the naysayers for poisoning the community to the point where they couldn't deliver the game as it should have been.
"Now you have a million game designers, a million arm chair developers, a million CEOs [telling us what to do]," Roberts explained.
But at the same time, Roberts said most of the Star Citizen community is "incredibly supportive and positive," contributing their own good ideas to the development team. This passion amongst the community is exciting and encouraging, he said."
Come on folks SC is not getting into mmorpg.com's top 10. More posts are needed. That way more people will find out about it and decide for themselves whether to check it out.
More trolling needed.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
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