MMO with open world PVP similar to Age of Conan?

maddogkilla

My favorite MMO of all time is Age of Conan. Unfortunately that game has a very low population now. So I'm looking for an MMO that has the same type of pvp. PVP where you can attack any other player that isn't in your guild or group. Not faction pvp like WOW or Aion. One where players run into each other a lot in the wild.

Nayr752

I would wait for Darkfall Rise of Agon to come out, or Darkfall New Dawn. Here is the websites,

https://darkfallriseofagon.com/#alpha

http://darkfallnewdawn.com/

maddogkilla

Really don't like first person view mmorpgs. There has to be a number of games with the type of pvp i'm looking for. anymore suggestions?

Sovrath

maddogkilla said:

Really don't like first person view mmorpgs. There has to be a number of games with the type of pvp i'm looking for. anymore suggestions?

Lineage 2, Arche Age, Black Desert will be releasing soon, EVE, other than the aforementioned Darkfall and Mortal Online that's all that come to mind at the moment. I'm sure there are more.

Tera pvp server.
Elder Scrolls online is 3 faction pvp but you might like that
Age of Wushu

Distopia

maddogkilla said:

Really don't like first person view mmorpgs. There has to be a number of games with the type of pvp i'm looking for. anymore suggestions?

There are PVP servers for a number of themeparks. Which all are essentially the same ruleset as AOC's PVP servers. Whether the games are as fun that's something else entirely. AOC had a certain charm and atmosphere missing in most of those games IMO> There's also ESO's Cyrodil, which is essentially a PVP server. 

maddogkilla

From everyones feedback I'm leaning more towards Tera, it will depend how the action combat is though. Any other suggestions, I'm fine with being on pvp server to access it like in Tera's case.

DrunkWolf

as a fellow pvper from AoC i can honestly tell you there is probably nothing out there that is going to give you that same thrill as conan did.

for myself only 2 games have ever really touched that great open world pvp feel. first was Asherons Call Darktide server and 2nd Age of Conan.

although i do find myself having alot of fun in Naval actions open world pvp, but its a totally different kind of game takes alot of time to get use to it.

oh and i forgot, maybe check out " The Culling " on steam. comes out next month and looks like some pvp fun. Its not really a MMO but looks interesting.

maddogkilla

Tera looks really interesting but not sure if Action combat would be the best. Any other suggestions? 

SomethingUnusual

maddogkilla said:

Tera looks really interesting but not sure if Action combat would be the best. Any other suggestions? 

Don't like aimed combat eh? I don't play it myself but Archage? It's a tiny bit closer to what you're looking for.

Not a lot of FFA pvp games, unfortunately most are faction-esque. If you can tolerate action combat but want the siege play and such I would suggest Darkfall Unholy Wars (Let's face it, Rise of Agon doesn't have the source yet, and the New Dawn guys are having some difficulties even compiling the source they did receive. I don't personally expect either to be up and running for another 2-3 years.)

Nayr752

SomethingUnusual said:

maddogkilla said:

Tera looks really interesting but not sure if Action combat would be the best. Any other suggestions? 

Don't like aimed combat eh? I don't play it myself but Archage? It's a tiny bit closer to what you're looking for.

Not a lot of FFA pvp games, unfortunately most are faction-esque. If you can tolerate action combat but want the siege play and such I would suggest Darkfall Unholy Wars (Let's face it, Rise of Agon doesn't have the source yet, and the New Dawn guys are having some difficulties even compiling the source they did receive. I don't personally expect either to be up and running for another 2-3 years.)

Agreed. I don't think Rise of Agon will be out anytime soon and New Dawn won't be up for at least another year.

maddogkilla

After everyones feedback I feel Archeage maybe the mmo for me. How is the population in that game? I don't want to join a dead game that isn't going to be around for awhile.

maddogkilla

Okay I did some research and think archeage is out. seems pay to win, no thank you

maddogkilla

This video? go to around 4:15 and watch. really turns me off pay vs non pay player 

Po_gg

I can't suggest one since I don't pvp, just an adjustment:

maddogkilla said:

Unfortunately that game has a very low population now.     - on the pvp servers.

fixed   Crom is still fine - true, it doesn't help in your case with pvp, just thought it worths a correction.

Cybersig211

what made AOC's pvp fun was how combat worked, the fun classes, and the fact that at some point between the awful launch and the game being dead there was a fantasic sweet spot in AOC's life where the game was fun, populated, and had a decent guild vs guild aspect due to the buggy siege system that had you wanting to go out and hunt enemy guildies.

No game out there recreates it simply due to the classes/combat in AOC being so well done and unique.

I remember my time in aoc fondly.  Best mage class ive played with that mechanic that allowed me to sometimes kill myself as I dished out "wtf" levels of damage to people, the fun assassin, the multitude of classes that were both interesting, fun to play, and unique in mechanic.  Plus the awe-factor of the graphics at the time.  People just didn't want to look past the crappy launch, and it spawned a lot of haters who did their best to make sure people couldn't openly like the game, and well, it fizzled out.

I actually think I still see a "failcom" avatar on these forums from that famous launch of AOC.

Reavanx

Black desert you can attack anyone and it's out in a week basically. However it has a criminal system.
I like it though and I loved AoC launch pvp.  
I'd like to add in that archage does suck and there are lots of people out there that have wasted over 3k on the game to win. Most of them still play it because of the investment. 
If you do as some prior poster said and don't invest much and try rely on your guild you will be like a lemming among gods. 

maddogkilla

Oh can you expand on how Black Desert pvp works? is it faction based or you can just attack anyone you see? are there pvp servers or are all the servers like that?

Reavanx

http://i.imgur.com/WlnHr8e.png

There you are. 
You regain karma by killing monsters. So you can attack anyone at all at your own risk. 
If you turn red everyone will be after you. 
Then you have GvG, any guild can declare war on another, there is no penalty at all for killing enemies. Each guild can war dec 6 others. 
Then you have node wars/siege where you can attack anyone else. 

In the valencia update of the game which will come later this year to the west there is a more expanded outlaw system with less penalties for being an outlaw, outlaws will get their own town and outlaw quests etc. 

maddogkilla

Really interesting. I think i may give Black Desert Online a go. Sounds like my type of pvp game.

ArChWind

maddogkilla said:

Really interesting. I think i may give Black Desert Online a go. Sounds like my type of pvp game.

In all honesty BDO probably won't be the game. The OW PvP is level 50 plus, has harsh karma loss for PK and is just kind of a duel system with no way to back out.

Only gripe I have with it at this time is the PvP flagging system.

The  reason these OW FFA games die is because they become stale with no sheep so they go to the next one then the next and so on. BDO is designed around discouraging PvP in OW against the sheep but allowing the wolves to devour themselves.

maddogkilla

I hear there is a BDO beta going on. how do I gain access without having to buy the game?