Do i think Pantheon can pull it off,to be honest nope. Reason is i saw the exact same flaws and same game design in both of Brad's games.Yes he added a bit to VG and improved the visuals a bit but overall ,same game same bugs etc etc.My point is that i believe Brad is 100% stuck on just another EQ build but trying his best to present it in a cheaper more cost effective fashion to sup[port a smaller budget.
No offense then, why are you even posting? Some of this you have to operate off of faith. Have you actually read any of the posts brad has made? Listened to any developer podcasts etc? It sounds like no. It sounds like you just have this idea in your head and you're just coming here to reinforce that predetermined idea instead of taking new information in and adjusting your position accordingly.
Brad has made many a post stating exactly where he F'd up with previous MMOs and what he intends to do to not repeat those mistakes.
If you're not going to at least give him and his team the benefit of the doubt, then why participate in the community at all? Just wait for it to release (or not to release in your opinion) and move forward from that point. I mean seriously. Why come on here if you think its not gonna happen? Just so you can come rub it in our face if it doesn't?
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
Do i think Pantheon can pull it off,to be honest nope. Reason is i saw the exact same flaws and same game design in both of Brad's games.Yes he added a bit to VG and improved the visuals a bit but overall ,same game same bugs etc etc.My point is that i believe Brad is 100% stuck on just another EQ build but trying his best to present it in a cheaper more cost effective fashion to sup[port a smaller budget.
No offense then, why are you even posting? Some of this you have to operate off of faith. Have you actually read any of the posts brad has made? Listened to any developer podcasts etc? It sounds like no. It sounds like you just have this idea in your head and you're just coming here to reinforce that predetermined idea instead of taking new information in and adjusting your position accordingly.
Brad has made many a post stating exactly where he F'd up with previous MMOs and what he intends to do to not repeat those mistakes.
If you're not going to at least give him and his team the benefit of the doubt, then why participate in the community at all? Just wait for it to release (or not to release in your opinion) and move forward from that point. I mean seriously. Why come on here if you think its not gonna happen? Just so you can come rub it in our face if it doesn't?
I've been pointing this out to him every time he posts in these forums for the last year. He doesn't demonstrate a knowledge of anything that Pantheon intends to offer. Honestly, he doesn't even seem to know what EQ originally offered comparing it to FFXI. On a very general level they were similar. TBH, aside from graphically, XI was closer to Meridian 59 or AC in quality and design. EQ was on a whole nother level.
P99 is great now they have finally released Velious and is truly old school.
However on the official Daybreak they have released some new time locked progression servers which are doing quite well!
They're gearing up for Velious with some big old school guilds coming back.
Darkwind
Faceless Insanity
Rosengard
Seems like the competitiveness is still there considering the game is near 17 years old....
Insane really, I'm trying to think if Pantheon will bring that old school feel to MMO's and move away from the easy 'newb' friendly they all seem to adopt. Fighting for mobs is what made EQ stand out.
Pretty much all EQ vets I've ever talked to about EQ and including
myself name Velious as the best expansion of Everquest and there are 25+
expansions to choose from at this point. Kunark scores high as well. So,
Brad should def focus on classic EQ type of mechanics and gameplay for
Pantheon (especially velious) because that's what makes old school
players tick.
Add Vanguard in the mix as a base for class design and we can expect an awesome game, imo.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Pretty much all EQ vets I've ever talked to about EQ and including
myself name Velious as the best expansion of Everquest and there are 25+
expansions to choose from at this point. Kunark scores high as well. So,
Brad should def focus on classic EQ type of mechanics and gameplay for
Pantheon (especially velious) because that's what makes old school
players tick.
Add Vanguard in the mix as a base for class design and we can expect an awesome game, imo.
A slower paced resource management type of strategic combat, with an Vanguard classes in a dangerous EQ type world is pretty much my dream game.
Interesting post and nice vid, but I found the mention of the guild FIRES OF HEAVEN to be the thing that got my interest up. I was on the same server of that guild, and I also remember a guild called BROTHERHOOD OF THE SPIDER. There were some good players in BOTS, but a large chunk of them were total dicks. I remember the entire guild being forcefully disbanded and banned for a few weeks ( BOTS) for griefing another group trying to raid.
I miss the danger of old school MMORPG's, but I do NOT miss the clunky combat, the horrible grind and de-levelling that occurred in EQ if you died right after gaining a new level. The best EQ memory I have is sitting outside the INN with a monk pc, resting and enjoying the thunderstorm raging all around us. The older games had more atmosphere, but a return to the tedious grind and clunky combat is not a good idea.
THE RATHE was the name of their old server, not sure if they had splinter groups on other servers
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No offense then, why are you even posting? Some of this you have to operate off of faith. Have you actually read any of the posts brad has made? Listened to any developer podcasts etc? It sounds like no. It sounds like you just have this idea in your head and you're just coming here to reinforce that predetermined idea instead of taking new information in and adjusting your position accordingly.
Brad has made many a post stating exactly where he F'd up with previous MMOs and what he intends to do to not repeat those mistakes.
If you're not going to at least give him and his team the benefit of the doubt, then why participate in the community at all? Just wait for it to release (or not to release in your opinion) and move forward from that point. I mean seriously. Why come on here if you think its not gonna happen? Just so you can come rub it in our face if it doesn't?
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
However on the official Daybreak they have released some new time locked progression servers which are doing quite well!
They're gearing up for Velious with some big old school guilds coming back.
Darkwind
Faceless Insanity
Rosengard
Seems like the competitiveness is still there considering the game is near 17 years old....
Insane really, I'm trying to think if Pantheon will bring that old school feel to MMO's and move away from the easy 'newb' friendly they all seem to adopt. Fighting for mobs is what made EQ stand out.
Kunark scores high as well.
So, Brad should def focus on classic EQ type of mechanics and gameplay for Pantheon (especially velious) because that's what makes old school players tick.
Add Vanguard in the mix as a base for class design and we can expect an awesome game, imo.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
If your world-creators can hold attention without the pretty-sparklies, then they've built something worth playing.
I miss the danger of old school MMORPG's, but I do NOT miss the clunky combat, the horrible grind and de-levelling that occurred in EQ if you died right after gaining a new level. The best EQ memory I have is sitting outside the INN with a monk pc, resting and enjoying the thunderstorm raging all around us.
The older games had more atmosphere, but a return to the tedious grind and clunky combat is not a good idea.
THE RATHE was the name of their old server, not sure if they had splinter groups on other servers