nah, it's just because it's new and shiny. you'll see the brown soon.
No its not.... i have been wayting for a game like this for to long... we obviously like different games.. But i for one do not tell other people their opinions are wrong.
Now go back to a game forum of a game that you are actually interested in. You missed the whole point of my declaration and this game.. The game is not for everyone, nothing is easy in this world everything takes time, and with time investment comes the reward of accomplishment.
Not to nitpick, but you just did tell him, his opinion is wrong.
nah, it's just because it's new and shiny. you'll see the brown soon.
No its not.... i have been wayting for a game like this for to long... we obviously like different games.. But i for one do not tell other people their opinions are wrong.
Now go back to a game forum of a game that you are actually interested in. You missed the whole point of my declaration and this game.. The game is not for everyone, nothing is easy in this world everything takes time, and with time investment comes the reward of accomplishment.
Not to nitpick, but you just did tell him, his opinion is wrong.
I think they are both expressing their own opinions. They just disagree.
nah, it's just because it's new and shiny. you'll see the brown soon.
No its not.... i have been wayting for a game like this for to long... we obviously like different games.. But i for one do not tell other people their opinions are wrong.
Now go back to a game forum of a game that you are actually interested in. You missed the whole point of my declaration and this game.. The game is not for everyone, nothing is easy in this world everything takes time, and with time investment comes the reward of accomplishment.
Not to nitpick, but you just did tell him, his opinion is wrong.
I think they are both expressing their own opinions. They just disagree.
Yep but he said he doesn t tell people their opinions are wrong, Is all.
nah, it's just because it's new and shiny. you'll see the brown soon.
No its not.... i have been wayting for a game like this for to long... we obviously like different games.. But i for one do not tell other people their opinions are wrong.
Now go back to a game forum of a game that you are actually interested in. You missed the whole point of my declaration and this game.. The game is not for everyone, nothing is easy in this world everything takes time, and with time investment comes the reward of accomplishment.
Not to nitpick, but you just did tell him, his opinion is wrong.
I think they are both expressing their own opinions. They just disagree.
Yep but he said he doesn t tell people their opinions are wrong, Is all.
Not to nitpick but he did not say he was wrong either. He merely asked him to go back to the forum of the game he is interested in and that he did not get what the OP was. Not getting means not understanding not wrong however.
nah, it's just because it's new and shiny. you'll see the brown soon.
No its not.... i have been wayting for a game like this for to long... we obviously like different games.. But i for one do not tell other people their opinions are wrong.
Now go back to a game forum of a game that you are actually interested in. You missed the whole point of my declaration and this game.. The game is not for everyone, nothing is easy in this world everything takes time, and with time investment comes the reward of accomplishment.
Not to nitpick, but you just did tell him, his opinion is wrong.
I think they are both expressing their own opinions. They just disagree.
Yep but he said he doesn t tell people their opinions are wrong, Is all.
Not to nitpick but he did not say he was wrong either. He merely asked him to go back to the forum of the game he is interested in and that he did not get what the OP was. Not getting means not understanding not wrong however.
Saying no it s not is saying what you said is wrong to him. No different then what the other poster did.
ROFL he said he did not agree with what the poster characterized his OP as .That is not saying it is wrong . As it is his own feeling and he should be the best judge of that. How can someone else be the judge of one's feelings ? He clarified his feelings as not what the other poster claimed it was.
Saying someone is wrong is if he pointed out the second poster's feelings as wrong. He merely reaffirmed his own feelings as expressed in the OP.
ROFL he said he did not agree with what the poster characterized his OP as .That is not saying it is wrong . As it is his own feeling and he should be the best judge of that. How can someone else be the judge of one's feelings ? He clarified his feelings as not what the other poster claimed it was.
Saying someone is wrong is if he pointed out the second poster's feelings as wrong. He merely reaffirmed his own feelings as expressed in the OP.
As to the world feeling alive...yesterday i watched a stream and while the streamer was running to another city, on the main road he literally run into one of his workers that was on his way to an outpost with his wares and goods. Now, that was one of an unexpected surprise!
In so many games you send your companions on tasks and all there is to it is just a minigame played in the UI, as you never actually see them do anything. Eventually they "return" with some loot, a mission log pops up and that's it. Virtual workers on top of an already virtual world. So great that in BDO your folks are actually present and busy in the game-world (I wonder if they can be killed or get robbed).
I heard that the same goes for your twinks in some way...if you send them somewhere, your main can meet them while they are on their way.
This does not sound like the correct usage for "Twinks", will someone please explain what he's talking about?
ROFL he said he did not agree with what the poster characterized his OP as .That is not saying it is wrong . As it is his own feeling and he should be the best judge of that. How can someone else be the judge of one's feelings ? He clarified his feelings as not what the other poster claimed it was.
Saying someone is wrong is if he pointed out the second poster's feelings as wrong. He merely reaffirmed his own feelings as expressed in the OP.
whatever you say.
Point is this though you dislike this game as I have noted and you had to come here to point out something silly because it somehow makes you jealous and upset others are loving this game so you had to come and pee on this chap's cheerios. Why did you have to make that silly remark in the first place ?
If ESO wasnt an Elder Scrolls game wouldnt have offered the same 'living world'? Also what is so different between ESO and BDO other than trade packs and capturing horses? And no dungeons?
Put a list of what each game has and doenst have and compare the lists and then see if what the differences are, I suspect theyre not that different.
That's not even arguing on semantics, that's just non-argumentation. Not a surprise coming from @Soki123 , she's on a vendetta against this game, it must have eaten his kitten or something.
The guy basically tells him "you are wrong, you only enjoy the game because it's new and shiny, it sucks you'll see it soon too". Dang, that sounds like those preachers who know better than you what's good for you.
Bachus answers him to mind his own business, which is pretty appropriate here.
There are several others who should apply Bachus's advice to themself here... notably those who don't intend to play this game yet are on a holy crusade against it.
I don't think it matters who is posting or what they're posting about, there is always someone on these forums ready to strike.
I'd rather be entertaining than a spiteful,unhappy curmudgeon even if I shall not play this game (because of the PvP) I think it is very refreshing to read what other people are loving and enjoying about it. I especially like reading the accounts from people like @Iselin and @Lord.Bachus and a few other notable posters.
That's not even arguing on semantics, that's just non-argumentation. Not a surprise coming from @Soki123 , she's on a vendetta against this game, it must have eaten his kitten or something.
The guy basically tells him "you are wrong, you only enjoy the game because it's new and shiny, it sucks you'll see it soon too". Dang, that sounds like those preachers who know better than you what's good for you.
Bachus answers him to mind his own business, which is pretty appropriate here.
There are several others who should apply Bachus's advice to themself here... notably those who don't intend to play this game yet are on a holy crusade against it.
Excuse me Jean bit we all have right to post unless you're the board admin.
I agree on things that are correct but I also don't agree with some of the things this game does. We all have a right to express ourselves but no one has the right to tell other how they should feel about it.
With that said. I went ahead and logged in and made a char I'll go my way and you go yours.
That is absolutely true Archwind but if the original post was about the game mechanics or talking about the game versus other games I would agree. This poor chap merely expressed his joy at the game and what he liked about it only to have someone else ridicule him and correct his feelings. That I felt was unwarranted on a thread like this. Or have we stooped this low that we need to make everyone else miserable.
That is absolutely true Archwind but if the original post was about the game mechanics or talking about the game versus other games I would agree. This poor chap merely expressed his joy at the game and what he liked about it only to have someone else ridicule him and correct his feelings. That I felt was unwarranted on a thread like this. Or have we stooped this low that we need to make everyone else miserable.
I do understand that but we all should ignore the noise and concentrate on the subject not derail it and flame each other.
That is absolutely true Archwind but if the original post was about the game mechanics or talking about the game versus other games I would agree. This poor chap merely expressed his joy at the game and what he liked about it only to have someone else ridicule him and correct his feelings. That I felt was unwarranted on a thread like this. Or have we stooped this low that we need to make everyone else miserable.
Exactly. That's why the "mind your own business" style answer from our Lord Bachus was totally appropriate here.
And yes, some people (you can see a few in this thread) have that need to make everyone else feel as miserable as they do.
Not miserable in the least, more entertained. You guys can go on for hours, quite amusing.
Trolling and inciting is not allowed just be aware of that.
As to the world feeling alive...yesterday i watched a stream and while the streamer was running to another city, on the main road he literally run into one of his workers that was on his way to an outpost with his wares and goods. Now, that was one of an unexpected surprise!
I was fighting in a swampy area (I'm so bad with names) and as I was fighting a group of mobs (I strongly suspect combat in this game - pve wise - is about fighting groups, not one at a time) I looked across the way to see someone's worker harvesting materials.
It was the first time I had noticed that workers were real people. Absolutely love this game.
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As to the world feeling alive...yesterday i watched a stream and while the streamer was running to another city, on the main road he literally run into one of his workers that was on his way to an outpost with his wares and goods. Now, that was one of an unexpected surprise!
I was fighting in a swampy area (I'm so bad with names) and as I was fighting a group of mobs (I strongly suspect combat in this game - pve wise - is about fighting groups, not one at a time) I looked across the way to see someone's worker harvesting materials.
It was the first time I had noticed that workers were real people. Absolutely love this game.
Wah?! Those NPCs you see moving about with packs on roads and doing stuff out and about are workers for other players? I just thought they were random NPCs moving about to give it an illusion of liveliness (perhaps it still is, but way cooler).
As to the world feeling alive...yesterday i watched a stream and while the streamer was running to another city, on the main road he literally run into one of his workers that was on his way to an outpost with his wares and goods. Now, that was one of an unexpected surprise!
I was fighting in a swampy area (I'm so bad with names) and as I was fighting a group of mobs (I strongly suspect combat in this game - pve wise - is about fighting groups, not one at a time) I looked across the way to see someone's worker harvesting materials.
It was the first time I had noticed that workers were real people. Absolutely love this game.
You already past 40?
I was watching a stream the other night the guy was 49 ranger and some red came in and tried to ruin his day. Was an exciting fight ranger versus warrior the guy just ran off eventually.
Watched the world boss fight last night. Holy shits man the boss gives loot to everyone as he is being killed like silver and stones, seem to be auto inventory. Was exciting to see 100 people on screen all battling him and the frame rate of the stream was still ticking around 56.
This game has like 30k views on it's launch trailer, I thought there was some hype around it?
Seriously even Blade & Soul was way more hyped, and that game is so heavily criticized after just 1 month, most of the playerbase is already quitting. And B&S has way more endgame content than BDO, which is another reason for a big concern.
What are the predictions for BDO going F2P with a P2W cash shop? How long will it take? I say 3 months at best. I can see most of the players quitting in the first month. When they reach the lvl 45 they'll realize that BDO is not what they thought it was.
I've been wanting to play a MMO that is immersive as the last time I felt that way was in WoW (not my first MMO either).
I'm wanting to like Black Desert. But the more I research about it. The more and more I'm starting to dislike it.
When I first heard about the game. Gender locked classes were an instant turn off. I know there are 'counter parts.' But that's only for a couple and not all.
Deciding to look pass the gender locked classes. Even though there have been people praising the character creation. It's actually extremely restrictive. Your wizard is going to be an old guy no matter what. Your warrior is going to be a guy in his 30s no matter what. etc.
Very well. Maybe, just maybe I can live with that. What's the game's content like? It has poor dialogue and story telling off the get go (Can probably thank Korean translation for that). Animations are sloppy and not fluid (eg. spotted a lot of walking animations where they're not in sync with their speed and just looks odd).
Leveling? Hope you like grinding mobs because questing is an inefficient way of doing so.
PVP? If you're the person that likes to PVP when they want to and PVE at your leisure. Also a big black spot with PVP being non-consensual.
PVE end game? Non-existent.
Game has struck out for me sadly.
Well, part of the idea for their characters/classes is that they embody an archetype. So they are probably thinking "old wizard" because they have spent years and years mastering their craft and younger warrior because they are fit and still able to fight.
Still, it does preclude the idea of the old grizzled veteran. However, the character creator is robust and in the hands of talented people, one can skew their characters here and there ...
Obviously a "Geralt" character but clearly in the 40's or maybe 50.
Younger wizards?
(I'll just include other links as the images are large)
The game is a grind game and many people (like myself) enjoy that. All I know is I spent a good part of last Sunday playing over my limited stints in Elder Scrolls Online where I can only stand so much. If that game was more like the single player games as far as exploring places I'd be playing that all day. But I just can't.
I don' think the animations are sloppy at all. There are nice little touches with how character's move, how hitting into someone causes them to slightly reel, how the character starts to run or slows.
Horse animations are great. Walking and not being at a correct speed could be about lag.
But based on your other issues with the game, sure the game isn't really aiming toward you and that's understandable.
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Not to nitpick, but you just did tell him, his opinion is wrong.
Yep but he said he doesn t tell people their opinions are wrong, Is all.
Saying no it s not is saying what you said is wrong to him. No different then what the other poster did.
Saying someone is wrong is if he pointed out the second poster's feelings as wrong. He merely reaffirmed his own feelings as expressed in the OP.
whatever you say.
Put a list of what each game has and doenst have and compare the lists and then see if what the differences are, I suspect theyre not that different.
I agree on things that are correct but I also don't agree with some of the things this game does. We all have a right to express ourselves but no one has the right to tell other how they should feel about it.
With that said. I went ahead and logged in and made a char I'll go my way and you go yours.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
We will see how it goes and how it will be used and abused.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
It was the first time I had noticed that workers were real people. Absolutely love this game.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I was watching a stream the other night the guy was 49 ranger and some red came in and tried to ruin his day. Was an exciting fight ranger versus warrior the guy just ran off eventually.
Watched the world boss fight last night. Holy shits man the boss gives loot to everyone as he is being killed like silver and stones, seem to be auto inventory. Was exciting to see 100 people on screen all battling him and the frame rate of the stream was still ticking around 56.
If you are interested in making a MMO maybe visit my page to get a free open source engine.
Seriously even Blade & Soul was way more hyped, and that game is so heavily criticized after just 1 month, most of the playerbase is already quitting. And B&S has way more endgame content than BDO, which is another reason for a big concern.
What are the predictions for BDO going F2P with a P2W cash shop? How long will it take? I say 3 months at best. I can see most of the players quitting in the first month. When they reach the lvl 45 they'll realize that BDO is not what they thought it was.
Well, part of the idea for their characters/classes is that they embody an archetype. So they are probably thinking "old wizard" because they have spent years and years mastering their craft and younger warrior because they are fit and still able to fight.
Still, it does preclude the idea of the old grizzled veteran. However, the character creator is robust and in the hands of talented people, one can skew their characters here and there ...
Obviously a "Geralt" character but clearly in the 40's or maybe 50.
Younger wizards?
(I'll just include other links as the images are large)
http://i.imgur.com/uB9lf3Z.png
http://i.imgur.com/pSIvNPr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VF4c8cE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lzXctug.png
http://origin.webcdn.theblackdesertonline.net/forum/service_live/monthly_01_2016/2016-01-20_30194381.JPG.787a469fbfcbdeb16726a8f269d98fed.JPG
The game is a grind game and many people (like myself) enjoy that. All I know is I spent a good part of last Sunday playing over my limited stints in Elder Scrolls Online where I can only stand so much. If that game was more like the single player games as far as exploring places I'd be playing that all day. But I just can't.
I don' think the animations are sloppy at all. There are nice little touches with how character's move, how hitting into someone causes them to slightly reel, how the character starts to run or slows.
Horse animations are great. Walking and not being at a correct speed could be about lag.
But based on your other issues with the game, sure the game isn't really aiming toward you and that's understandable.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo