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KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685
edited March 2016 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM
Video games in general are making the world a more peaceful place. People enjoy doing things, being entertained for far cheaper than they would do with real life hobbies. That being said if there were less enjoyable games today where people could play to get better lootz off PvP and PvE that means your chances of dropping your loot in real life would be much higher...and it doesn't stop there, because loot in real life goes beyond just material items.

Sooner or later humanity will realize how much of importance the quality of video games play a part in the world we live today. Then, you can add all the other things like how we pollute the world less through gaming and how we are much safer from accidents and injuries by staying at home. We use our brains far more often to solve problems, to overcome challenges and to socialize in ways we could never before, so we also evolve faster, become more intelligent.

Sooner or later more and more will understand the importance of games in our society. Hopefully, even those in power will start to invest in them to bring the type of games required that will draw and keep the interest to those that do not today. It's crystal clear how people without any hobbies, without things to capture their interest get caught up in politics, religion and all other kinds of things that make them hate and dislike a lot of things.

I'm even convinced to say that the doom clock went backward when video games were invented. For example, I remember when we were very young we used to gather up for street fights until we start playing on Nintendo and PlayStation.

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  • wiennaswiennas Member UncommonPosts: 67
    edited March 2016
    '' Video games in general are making the world a more peaceful place.''

    Well, video games have the possibility to make people more peaceful, depends on a video game. Every video game demands something from a player, most of the games quite high degree of violence. In so far as someone plays too much violent games will his sense of empathy decrease, itself violent games makes violence more acceptable - it's not an opinion, but a fact. The same as is know that competitive games, which reward high degree of individualism, (can) accelerate egoism and decrease empathy.
  • sunandshadowsunandshadow Member RarePosts: 1,985
    edited March 2016
    Kopogero said:
    ...your chances of dropping your loot in real life would be much higher...

    Er, what?

    Nvm I figured out that this means something along the lines of "more people would be bandits and muggers for the fun of it if they didn't have games where they could pvp or beat up NPC opponents, and because of the increase of bored criminals we would allbe more likely to get robbed" or something like that.  I'm not sure if that's actually true, but it's not obviously false, so I guess I have no reason to argue with it.
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  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,861
    So....video games are the opiate of the masses?
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Video games have no effect on making the world more peaceful.  If you buy into video games make people 'better'  you have to buy into the fact that video games create psychopaths who go out and start shooting people.  Since I don't buy iinto the popular past time of blaming video games for killers, I cannot support the other without being a hypocrite.

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  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772
    edited March 2016
    Weird post as always from you Kopo, but I do agree that as far as time-consuming addictive hobbies go, video games are one of the cheapest, healthiest (or at least most non-harmful...), and overall best, especially online games.  Any hobby that promotes social interaction is pretty good, and video games are especially nice since that interaction happens in a virtual world- it can stay there and not negatively influence a person's real life.
  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    edited March 2016
    Kopogero said:

    I'm even convinced to say that the doom clock went backward when video games were invented.  

    Um ... you must be posting on the wrong forum, Bub.  Look again, this is MMORPG.com.  It's a great gaming site with a lot of excellent gaming articles and information but there is little denying that a large percentage of posters on its forum, and many other gaming forums for that matter, are nothing but doom and gloom. 
  • KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Video games have no effect on making the world more peaceful.  If you buy into video games make people 'better'  you have to buy into the fact that video games create psychopaths who go out and start shooting people.  Since I don't buy iinto the popular past time of blaming video games for killers, I cannot support the other without being a hypocrite.
      Look at the parts of the world where technology is not that accessible as one example and then think it through again what you just wrote. The Middle East and Africa have very little if no access to video games yet there is more "shooting" and chaos there than anywhere else. In fact video games make people to understand better about the world, the consequences, their options and more important they get to value their lives more thanks to the amazing games they have to entertain themselves with.


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  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785
    It's less about "video games" and about opportunity and idle hands. If you grow up in a war torn area or some other highly impoverished region violence doesn't seem that bad of an option when you're faced with starve and wallow in the streets or sign up to fight some ideological boogeyman. So in an indirect way, sure, video games could bring about more peace as it would give people something to do. However, you'd need to have the infrastructure and general safety in place to enable people to engage in leisure activities.

    You can't just hand someone a playstation and say, "okay, you play this, no more real life violence please." They still require basic things like food, shelter, electricity(!) and some degree of stability and security.

    The entire reason Mexico and many places in South America suffer from Narcoculture is because it's the better option. If you're a young child in a small village school, your options are get through grade school and then live a hard life in the fields making pretty much zero money. Then the Zetas come to your town and give you nice new sneakers, cell phones and show you that you can make way more money that you would have in your entire life, it's a really difficult proposition. Truly a devil's offer. And down the line you have the even worse scenario where you work hard for nothing and the narco's kill you or your family anyway because of whatever random reason. This is why recruitment is easy for them.

    Entertainment only distracts the populace if you have a functioning society. Once societal stress reaches a breaking point, it doesn't matter if you have access to the Steam summer sale.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,178
    Video games are just one small hobby. I have so many hobbies I have to ration my time between my work and hobbies. There are days I do not game at all. I think many people around the world do not view video game as such an important hobby. 

    I think reading books whether written or audio and working with your hands and exercise are often forgotten when we talk about hobbies. But there are so many forms that hobbies take that giving any importance to video games is perhaps a very narrow view. For instance I spend far more time on my Korean/Japanese drama and anime with my knitting than I do gaming.

    Broaden your horizons.

  • Zen00Zen00 Member UncommonPosts: 152
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Video games have no effect on making the world more peaceful.  If you buy into video games make people 'better'  you have to buy into the fact that video games create psychopaths who go out and start shooting people.  Since I don't buy iinto the popular past time of blaming video games for killers, I cannot support the other without being a hypocrite.
    Not necessarily, you're forgetting that video games are "opiates of the masses" in the sense that they soak up free time created by modern society. Time that could be filled with less desirable activities that would detriment society. They don't necessarily make people "better", just prevent them from having the spare time to get worse.
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    Rusque said:
    It's less about "video games" and about opportunity and idle hands. If you grow up in a war torn area or some other highly impoverished region violence doesn't seem that bad of an option when you're faced with starve and wallow in the streets or sign up to fight some ideological boogeyman. So in an indirect way, sure, video games could bring about more peace as it would give people something to do. However, you'd need to have the infrastructure and general safety in place to enable people to engage in leisure activities.

    You can't just hand someone a playstation and say, "okay, you play this, no more real life violence please." They still require basic things like food, shelter, electricity(!) and some degree of stability and security.

    The entire reason Mexico and many places in South America suffer from Narcoculture is because it's the better option. If you're a young child in a small village school, your options are get through grade school and then live a hard life in the fields making pretty much zero money. Then the Zetas come to your town and give you nice new sneakers, cell phones and show you that you can make way more money that you would have in your entire life, it's a really difficult proposition. Truly a devil's offer. And down the line you have the even worse scenario where you work hard for nothing and the narco's kill you or your family anyway because of whatever random reason. This is why recruitment is easy for them.

    Entertainment only distracts the populace if you have a functioning society. Once societal stress reaches a breaking point, it doesn't matter if you have access to the Steam summer sale.
    Yup, Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601
    edited March 2016
    The U.S. has one of the highest murder rates in the world. They also have some  of  the highest video game use in the world. 

    There is  no correlation even softly between video games and world peace.  Ridiculous notion. 

    Your Africa and middle east suggestion is equally ridiculous. They have a host of problems that again has absolutely nothing to do with video games.  Your right they don't  have as much technology and if they had more likely video games would increase as well. However whateverppeace they have would not be because of the games.  

    You can equally blame it on toilet paper.  Industrial countries  use more toilet paper than other countries and often have less wars.  OMG someone should look into this. 

    Two things changing at the same time does not imply they are related. However both can be related to a third option.  Here it would be increasing technology which makes communication and idea exchange and access to such easier. Video games just go along for the ride.  Along  with toilet paper. 
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • senadinsenadin Member UncommonPosts: 247
    Kopogero said:
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Video games have no effect on making the world more peaceful.  If you buy into video games make people 'better'  you have to buy into the fact that video games create psychopaths who go out and start shooting people.  Since I don't buy iinto the popular past time of blaming video games for killers, I cannot support the other without being a hypocrite.
      Look at the parts of the world where technology is not that accessible as one example and then think it through again what you just wrote. The Middle East and Africa have very little if no access to video games yet there is more "shooting" and chaos there than anywhere else. In fact video games make people to understand better about the world, the consequences, their options and more important they get to value their lives more thanks to the amazing games they have to entertain themselves with.


    LOL, the fact they are violent has NOTHING to do with this! It likely has EVERYTHING to do with being poor, hopeless, no economy etc. Give your head a shake please! If you had no food and the only way for you to get it was to steal or prostitute yourself or some other form of similar activities, gaming would be the last thing on your mind. This is why a lot of those places have violence. Well this and possibly corrupt govt/religious leaders.

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  • pantaropantaro Member RarePosts: 515
    Video games are most likely keeping me alive right now,not even kidding. short version being they give me a positive and relaxing focal point and a escape when my previous hobby which was pretty much my reason for being was no longer sustainable.
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  • KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685
    edited March 2016
    @VengeSunsoar The U.S is also involved in almost every single war happening in the world and imo that's due to making profit out of it with the $ they invest n military tech. If that technology sits idle and takes dust U.S can't see return of its investment. U.S PROFITS billions of $ annually from the conflicts. It's like a mercenary for hire.

    Another fact is video gaming is a cheap hobby and becoming cheaper and cheaper as the technology becomes more mainstream, so people don't have for example to sell as much "drugs" or w/e crime they doing or anything else to go home, relax, play their video games and simply be more peaceful to their communities and the world in general.

    North Korea might seem extreme group to you or rest of the world, but the people there they have a system in place, a way of living that works for them that are used to and that is the main reason why that regime continues to exist. They are simply content with how things are. Look at South Korea and how advanced in technology they became and all the video games that have came from there. Both countries are in the same region, enjoying similar climate and lands to prosper from, but there is one key difference. One has twice the population of the other, so yes thanks to gaming South Korea can manage that population better without any conflicts within.

    Technology allow populated worlds to enjoy doing things that are less costly. Look at in some of the threads here, where those rich people brag about their jeep, their off road cars/trucks etc that have excess $. They are simply polluting the world more with their needs and wants as well as destroying that nature, that wilderness in the process and of course endangering themselves or someone else more every day they go on the roads out there.

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  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601
    edited March 2016
    North Korea is in no way shape or form prospering.  The people there are kept ignorant poor and destitute. 

    Considering your last statement i guess you agree that there is very little if any correlation between gaming and peace as  your last statement shows a while host of other factors. 

    You are just extremely ignorant and  attention seeking. 
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601
    To state that the key difference between north and south Korea is simply population size is just stupid.  Nothing about freedom or democracy or  capitalism or health care or education or access to information.   Nope the key difference is population size. 

    Stupid. 
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601
    That's exactly what i just told my wife
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • KonfessKonfess Member RarePosts: 1,667
    There is speculation that FPS are preparing gamers to be cannon fodder Super Soldiers in WW3.

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    As if it could exist, without being payed for.
    F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
    Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
    It costs money to play.  Therefore P2W.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Konfess said:
    There is speculation that FPS are preparing gamers to be cannon fodder Super Soldiers in WW3.
    lol .. is anyone confused between being able to aim a virtual gun with a mouse, and holding a real heavy M16 and try to hit a target without a big arrow on top of the enemy's head?

    By WW3, we will be fighting with drones .. so may be there is some truth to it ... but certainly gamers are more likely to be drone pilots than soldiers. Can you imagine walking 20 miles carrying your weapon & ammo, always on the lookout for ambush, eating crap and using trees as toilets?
  • KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685
    edited March 2016
    @VengeSunsoar I dunno where you were when Iraq was under Saddam regime, but sometimes people prefer to have dictators in their worlds that know best what needs to be done to prevent the chaos that follows from too much "freedom and democracy" to people who aren't educated or understand and follow the rule of law. After Saddam was overthrown Iraq has been significantly worse and that is just one example. Look where Syria is now.

    Oh and guess how much $ U.S receives from South Korea to "protect" it from North. What makes you think North Korea is not secretly allied with U.S to keep South Korea in fear and spending $ for this "protection"? U.S is allied and does business with one of the worst violators of freedom and human rights, yes I'm talking about Saudi Arabia and why do you think that is? There are a whole array of things out there that are not the way they seem and they are made like that for a purpose.

    Anyways, back on topic. The fact remains, gaming is a source of entertainment that's so new to our world, so amazing and yet so cheap for consumers to enjoy. If anything will slow our world from all those conflicts it will be gaming. Since then people will have less interest to be involved in all these things that create chaos as well as make profits while ruining other lives in the process.

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  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    Konfess said:
    There is speculation that FPS are preparing gamers to be cannon fodder Super Soldiers in WW3.
    lol .. is anyone confused between being able to aim a virtual gun with a mouse, and holding a real heavy M16 and try to hit a target without a big arrow on top of the enemy's head?

    By WW3, we will be fighting with drones .. so may be there is some truth to it ... but certainly gamers are more likely to be drone pilots than soldiers. Can you imagine walking 20 miles carrying your weapon & ammo, always on the lookout for ambush, eating crap and using trees as toilets?
    Most MRE's are actually pretty damn tasty lol. We don't eat rock hard biscuits and gruel even in the field. Cheese Tortellini was the best one. Only bad part about MRE's is that they constipate you in ways most human beings will never comprehend. 
  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601
    Nothing you stated has  anything to do with or counters what I said.  It is just more rambling. 
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    I'm surprised OP didn't say that there are some deep thinkers out there who believe that life is a simulation just like a video game.  We are Avatars that our real selves are operating.  


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