"MMO" is a fallacy at this point. The term is D.E.A.D and meaningless.
meaningless .. yes.
Dead ... really? Just look at how much fun we have talking about it. I would say it is alive and well. Heck, the latest The Division, made $330M in a week.
The Division is probably the best game in the market! Personally cannot think of a better game. narius, remember a few years back when many of the user here stated mmo's would never go to console. Console would never replace PC's as far as quality gaming experiences. How times have changed!
If any game in particular "killed" MMORPGs, it was TOR.
Biggest budget ever, by a factor of 3, and lost half its player base in the first 90 days after launch.
Yes, it made some money after going "F2P", but not in time to save the jobs of 3 of 4 executives in charge of the thing or the president of EA. And going F2P in the first year after launch (or close to it) was NEVER planned. The devs talked about there being 500 planets eventually in TOR, if the sub numbers stayed where projected (and they didn't even come close).
The "non-success" of TOR made investors and big MMORPG companies FINALLY realize that there was never going to be another WoW, no matter how much money they shoveled at it, and that funds would generate a better return if invested elsewhere.
Thus the rise of mobile and MOBA and the decline of the MMORPG and the companies that made them.
"MMO" is a fallacy at this point. The term is D.E.A.D and meaningless.
meaningless .. yes.
Dead ... really? Just look at how much fun we have talking about it. I would say it is alive and well. Heck, the latest The Division, made $330M in a week.
The Division is probably the best game in the market! Personally cannot think of a better game. narius, remember a few years back when many of the user here stated mmo's would never go to console. Console would never replace PC's as far as quality gaming experiences. How times have changed!
Might be a good game, consoles are full of them, not a MMORPG and PCs are still the only way to play EVE, which is really the only MMORPG left standing these days.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Might be a good game, consoles are full of them, not a MMORPG and PCs are still the only way to play EVE, which is really the only MMORPG left standing these days.
Time to abandon mmorpgs and play MMOs, or MMO-hybrids.
Wait .. didn't players already do that? How many are playing Eve, and how many are playing The Division?
I dont think MMORPGs are dead.. I just think there arent many TRUE MMORPGs being made. EQN definitely wasnt going to be a true MMORPG. In many cases games have stolen the genre title when the game isnt even remotely close to earning that moniker.
So many times these days the RPG portion of the genre is thrown to the side in favor of fast paced action and things to try and WOW people. That usually fades quickly and what you have left is a shallow boring experience because the depth ( RPG ) was hacked to bits.
Then you have the free to play games out there that are just terrible which leaves a bad taste in players mouths.
BDO is an example of the opposite.. Pretty nice RPG features but insanely boring amd easy combat ( IMO ). Combine that with poorly designed crafting , worker system , contribution system..etc. Nice ideas but horribly designed and implemented. You have a game with good ideas but terrible execution.
Put the RPG back into the genre and it will be alive and well.
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Biggest budget ever, by a factor of 3, and lost half its player base in the first 90 days after launch.
Yes, it made some money after going "F2P", but not in time to save the jobs of 3 of 4 executives in charge of the thing or the president of EA. And going F2P in the first year after launch (or close to it) was NEVER planned. The devs talked about there being 500 planets eventually in TOR, if the sub numbers stayed where projected (and they didn't even come close).
The "non-success" of TOR made investors and big MMORPG companies FINALLY realize that there was never going to be another WoW, no matter how much money they shoveled at it, and that funds would generate a better return if invested elsewhere.
Thus the rise of mobile and MOBA and the decline of the MMORPG and the companies that made them.
Your premise fails.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Wait .. didn't players already do that? How many are playing Eve, and how many are playing The Division?
So many times these days the RPG portion of the genre is thrown to the side in favor of fast paced action and things to try and WOW people. That usually fades quickly and what you have left is a shallow boring experience because the depth ( RPG ) was hacked to bits.
Then you have the free to play games out there that are just terrible which leaves a bad taste in players mouths.
BDO is an example of the opposite.. Pretty nice RPG features but insanely boring amd easy combat ( IMO ). Combine that with poorly designed crafting , worker system , contribution system..etc. Nice ideas but horribly designed and implemented. You have a game with good ideas but terrible execution.
Put the RPG back into the genre and it will be alive and well.