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Black Desert Online: My Honest Review

UnleadedRevUnleadedRev Member UncommonPosts: 568
I have been pretty harsh in my feelings to this game, but I must admit I can explain what I like and don't like about it.
First off, I have never played an "Asian" influenced MMORPG before, as I usually avoid them.
However, it was "The HiveLeader" video review from our website here that caused me to buy and try the game.
Also, the only Sand Box games I have played have been EQ, SWQ, and EVE.
The rest have been "theme park" MMORPGs especially World of Warcarft (WoW).
Anyway, here is my review:

THE GOOD-

Beautiful graphics and Music, as well as ambience.
Detailed character customization.
The ability to press the "T" key and auto run to your quests.
Interesting Combat.
Huge World.
Many unique UI features that once you get used to, are great.
It is a Sand Box game and not on rails like WoW.
Some quests are fun.
No Subscription!

THE BAD-

Quests and Story Line seem very weak , and I find myself not caring what they say other than getting to the point of the quest.
Voice Overs and Text are kind of cheesy, in bad english sometimes, or make no sense.
Some classes have Gender locks and/or Race locks.
UI at first, as well as combat at first seems clunky and makes a bad first impression and unless you stick with it until you learn it, you might quit the game too early.
Some quests are lame.

THE UGLY-

When talking to NPC's the voice overs do not match the text, and thus you are forced to read and listen to 2 entirely different subjects at the same time. Very annoying and ruins immersion.
The "Black Spirit" is horribly annoying in looks and sound, I cannot stand it and wish I could not have to deal with it.
Equipment looks horrible, and the only way to look good is to spend money in a cash grab for outfits etc.
Real Money, Game Currency, Pearl Currency......why three!
GOLD SPAMMERS galore flooding chat so bad I had to turn the chat off.
Chat box bugs.

IN SUMMARY-

I know I am having a hard time adjusting from years of playing theme park MMOs like Wow, and that is my issue not Black Desert's.
However, I do feel that many players like me, might lose out on what is a good game, by quiting early and not giving it a chance.
For example, yesterday I hated the game, but last night I took my time and tried to understand it more.
Thus, today I like it and will continue to play it.

For those that want a Sand Box this is the game for you, theme park types might not want to try it, as you feel like you just got released after 50 years in jail aka a Theme Park like Wow, and now on the streets with complete freedom BDO, you kind of are like not sure what to do after years of being hand held by WoW.

I am glad I purchased this game and because it has no subscription, there is no reason not to try it.

Comments

  • samooryesordsamooryesord Member UncommonPosts: 105
    I just want a thicker head of hair...
  • spikers14spikers14 Member UncommonPosts: 531
    The Black Spirit evolves and becomes quite useful as you progress. He becomes more badass, and less annoying or "cute".


    UnleadedRev said:
    Real Money, Game Currency, Pearl Currency......why three!
    What is so confusing about a currency, bought with real money, to be used in their cash shop? This is fairly common these days. Also, I think you can still look pretty cool without cash shop outfits and disagree about a "cash grab". 


    Glad you're having fun though. Cheers.
  • wiennaswiennas Member UncommonPosts: 67
    spikers14 said:
    The Black Spirit evolves and becomes quite useful as you progress. He becomes more badass, and less annoying or "cute".


    UnleadedRev said:
    Real Money, Game Currency, Pearl Currency......why three!
    What is so confusing about a currency, bought with real money, to be used in their cash shop? This is fairly common these days. Also, I think you can still look pretty cool without cash shop outfits and disagree about a "cash grab". 


    Glad you're having fun though. Cheers.
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  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483
    you lost me at EQ being a sandbox

  • bentrimbentrim Member UncommonPosts: 299
    edited March 2016
     The game is INCREDIBLY deep, combat is just a very small portion of the game. Crafting is deeper than any game out there. Certainly there is a money grab, but you don't have to engage. The game is a STEAL for the initial price. Try it...but just like "fine wine"....give it a little time, and you will find out why its the BEST MMO EVER!  BTW...The Black Spirit, will eventually be VERY helpful to you.
  • AethaerynAethaeryn Member RarePosts: 3,150
    I agree with almost everything you said.  I have limited time to play so the 7 day pass let me see the game but not get used to the "ugly"  The list of your Ugly items is why I decided not to buy it.  I think I am going to end up purchasing it  because the ugly just takes getting used to changes and the PROs list is pretty compelling.

    A lot of people, who I typically agree with, have enjoyed the game but say that it takes time.  For me your lists were pretty spot on, fair and balanced.

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  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Member UncommonPosts: 654
    The black spirit does not stay cute for very long.  I would post pics but wouldn't want to ruin it for anyone.
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    To be completely honest with you, I don't think you are playing the Sandbox bit at all.
    You are basing your judgement on the classic Themepark part, which I have to admit it is nothing to rave about.

    You should really spend more time trying to do something else other than doing stupid quests, which is not the bread and butter of this game, before making a review IMO.

  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    edited March 2016
    DMKano said:

    Real Money, Game Currency, Pearl Currency......why three!


    This is due to a very well researched material and has to do with consumer/spend psychology:

    If you can decouple REAL MONEY from in game item - you can force players to spend more and it's also easier to overlook how much you're actually spending.

    Look at Daum's cash options:

     

    Note that you can't buy less than $10 eventhough many cash shop items cost less than $10 - coincidence?

    Nope.

    Again this is not exclusive to Daum - all game companies employ these tactics to get you to spend more money.

    So what does Daum cash give you - Pearls - which is the actual currency in the cash shop - again this obfuscates the real cost, and hides the fact that you can't spend  a $1.50 for something that costs that many pearls - becase the minimum you can spend is $10

    Also it's no coincidence that very few things in the cash shop add up exactly to $10, or $20 or even $30 worth of pearls - again this is clearly calculated to get the player to spend more money. Cash shop item costs are like $9, $6, $29 - etc.. it's designed to where it won't add up to a nice $10, $20, $30, or $60 amount ever - because again they want you spend more.

    bottom line 

    Game companies do the multiple currency to make more money.
    It also dodges some legal issues around gambling because it creates a gap between the real money transaction and the purchase of goods that may be randomized.

    BDO itself isn't particularly bad on this at the moment. Only place it's present in the shop is with the dyes.

    It is a common practice with the shop design though in order to dodge the restrictions placed on gambling.

    EDIT: That said, the dye system is really annoying at present. :p

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Myrdynn said:
    you lost me at EQ being a sandbox

    Oh look, it's THAT guy.
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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Also, the only Sand Box games I have played have been EQ...

    I think I may have made the same face. LOL

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited March 2016
    Distopia said:
    Also, the only Sand Box games I have played have been EQ...

    I think I may have made the same face. LOL
    Don't get me wrong, the review is good (even if I don't think that it belongs in "The Pub") and the person tried hard to offer a balanced view. But EQ being a sandbox always makes me smile :)
    Agreed, a weird statement doesn't make a review moot, it was well written and fair according to his preference, which is all you can expect from someone sharing an opinion.

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  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    DMKano said:
    ste2000 said:
    To be completely honest with you, I don't think you are playing the Sandbox bit at all.
    You are basing your judgement on the classic Themepark part, which I have to admit it is nothing to rave about.

    You should really spend more time trying to do something else other than doing stupid quests, which is not the bread and butter of this game, before making a review IMO.
    The quests in Black Desert are as bad as the quests in ArcheAge - /shudder.

    Horrible.

    Yeah, neither AA or BDO are built around questing, so it is not surprise they are both rather boring on that department.
    Luckily they shine in other area (though AA dreadful Cash Shop prevents me to play it unfortunately).

  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Every time I see a thread with "My Honest Review" in the title I feel I need to get my hip boots out. 
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,936
    I love the black spirit. Starts out "cute" and everything it says it about trusting it and that you have a deal but as it grows it gets more ominous and threatening.

    I don't understand why people just don't think of it as another npc.
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  • IwayloIwaylo Member UncommonPosts: 174
    What kind of review is that... You didnt cover a thing. A review after 1 week of gameplay i guess?
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Iwaylo said:
    What kind of review is that... You didnt cover a thing. A review after 1 week of gameplay i guess?
    If a game is not fun after week, why bother? So one week of gameplay is more than enough to form an opinion. 
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    Voice acting has no part in MMOs....Single player games sure, but it is often way more detrimental in a MMO...Like the OP I dont enjoy reading quests in Asian MMOs either....The english is terrible and I just lose interest very quickly.
  • IwayloIwaylo Member UncommonPosts: 174
    Iwaylo said:
    What kind of review is that... You didnt cover a thing. A review after 1 week of gameplay i guess?
    If a game is not fun after week, why bother? So one week of gameplay is more than enough to form an opinion. 
    Sure an opinion worth of a week doesnt contain any informantion about the long term of the game nor does it have any information about the complex content offered.  
    He basically said i like how this looks, i dont like how this looks.  

    My reaction - K.
  • pingopingo Member UncommonPosts: 608
    OP, didnt you buy this game yesterday?


    You wrote a comment on the HiveLeader video basically saying; "I bought this game this morning, bad story, clunky combat". 



    Also, saying "my honest review" doesn't make you sound honest. It makes it sound more suspicious. You're absolutely right that the voice acting and translation is absolute garbage. It's garbage in most MMOs besides SWTOR, FFXIV and a few who are hit-or-miss like GW2, Warframe, The Division and so on. 

    The thing is- It doesnt matter. BDO is way beyond it. It doesn't need these dumb characters or the spirit which is not invasive at all. You spam RRRRR and dont have to listen to that thing at all. Its so nonsensical that it is more like a creepy version of clippy that gives advice. 


  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    flizzer said:
    Every time I see a thread with "My Honest Review" in the title I feel I need to get my hip boots out. 
    If the original poster feels the need to say that this is his "honest" review, does that mean any other reviews he makes are dishonest?
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Thanks for the honesty.  I haven't gotten the game yet as I am occupied with other games right now. But I look forward to it.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion but press "T" to auto run to your quest???
    Such an immersive way to bring some realism to the game world,exactly what i would expect to do in a game,have it automate itself so i don't need to play it.

    Press T  press" , " press ASD press FDA press AS AD SD ,HOLD S press fire, yes such a brilliant design,they should  win an award for making use of the same letters over and over,idk maybe they have shares in keyboards and hope to wear them out faster.
    I have no idea what people think this game offers that you can't get better elsewhere?
    I don't even like Wow but i would take Wow questing over this game anytime and for combat and classes FFXI blows the doors off this.

    I quit games and reported bot fishing ,now this developer sees it as a good idea lmao...hello ,anyone in there?

    This really is no surprise at all,this is typical of KR game design,shallow and easy mode.
    My biggest issue is i HATE SPAM combat,what these guys did was take the WORST idea in gaming and make it cumbersome with multiple key presses,so it is like playing a MUCH worse version of Diablo combat which is about as bad as it gets ,aside from moba's.


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  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    edited March 2016
    Combat is mostly built around the combo mechanics you find characteristic to brawler games. You'd have a better comparison if you said Soul Calibur rather than Diablo (seeing as Diablo's combat is very different with it's hotbar use and no combo mechanics).

    Also curious on the spam comment. Are you just auto-attacking and not hitting any hotbar abilities? I would have thought repeatedly pressing the same sequence of buttons across the 1-6 keys would itself be very spammy.

    Also, auto-run isn't new. Not to mention most MMOs have map markers that direct you straight to your quest goals any ways so the difference in experience is that of running along the dotted line yourself or letting the machine run the dotted line.

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