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Adata 960GB SSD selling for $188

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    And it's not much cheaper than some other SSDs, either.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228137
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313666

    Some things don't scale with Moore's Law, but NAND flash capacity sure seems to, at least for now.  Hard drives are becoming less and less necessary.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited April 2016
    When i need to spend extra money to save a few seconds of load time,i better run away from computers.I don't spark up my computer with frantic ADD "cmon load cmon load i just need to game RIGHT NOW.
    I like to always remain relaxed,i always have something i can do while my PC is loading.
    Also gaming is NOT that important in life,it is suppose to be a relaxing past time .We already spend far too much on computers and games,people need to get back to REAL life and spend less on gaming,keep it real and keep it healthy.
    I am not knocking you OP,i have been there before as a youngster,wasting time and wasting money,getting caught up in the latest hardware.Luckily we all learn over time but imo we take too long to learn the real values in life.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Gaming?  Who said anything about gaming?  When I tell my computer to do something, I usually mean now.  Not just, whenever you get around to doing it.  I like that my computer does what I tell it when I tell it.  With hard drives, you often get to sit there and wait.  Yes, that's true for games, but it's also true for everything else on a computer.

    And it's not a ton of extra money anymore, either.  You can get a 240 GB SSD for around $60, or 120 GB for under $40.  
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    You know, if computers never got faster, and we were just content to wait for them, we'd still be using this.



    And we'd still be patiently waiting, all non-ADD like and such, for it to render 1 frame per month of the latest games.
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    edited April 2016
    Torval said:
    I just built a new workstation at work and it has a 500GB 850 EVO for the OS drive and a 2TB 850 EVO for the data drive. I love it. Firing up my VMs is blazingly fast. My db and file processing is blazingly fast. SSDs provide a lot of advantages outside of just program loading.
    Older versions of cisco CUCM can take up to 10 min to boot, and 5 min to do a restart after tinkering, with an ssd it's 2-3 min max.

    booting up VMs on normal HDDs is unbearable, ...

    using SSDs saves so much time on so many things, you could literally work 4 days a week instead :P
  • holdenhamletholdenhamlet Member EpicPosts: 3,772
    Wizardry said:
    When i need to spend extra money to save a few seconds of load time,i better run away from computers.I don't spark up my computer with frantic ADD "cmon load cmon load i just need to game RIGHT NOW.
    I like to always remain relaxed,i always have something i can do while my PC is loading.
    Also gaming is NOT that important in life,it is suppose to be a relaxing past time .We already spend far too much on computers and games,people need to get back to REAL life and spend less on gaming,keep it real and keep it healthy.
    I am not knocking you OP,i have been there before as a youngster,wasting time and wasting money,getting caught up in the latest hardware.Luckily we all learn over time but imo we take too long to learn the real values in life.
    Farming those LOL forum points again, I see.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Quizzical said:
    Gaming?  Who said anything about gaming?  When I tell my computer to do something, I usually mean now.  Not just, whenever you get around to doing it.  I like that my computer does what I tell it when I tell it.  With hard drives, you often get to sit there and wait.  Yes, that's true for games, but it's also true for everything else on a computer.

    And it's not a ton of extra money anymore, either.  You can get a 240 GB SSD for around $60, or 120 GB for under $40.  
    Agreed, if I can get my computer faster for a relative low sum of money it is a good thing.

    Heck, my laptop would have been scrapped a year ago if I didn't put an SSD in it and I don't really use it for gaming (besides AoW3 and Civ IV: Caveman2cosmos), it is more to have a computer when Im travelling or on vacation. Now it will last me 2 years longer then with a regular harddrive.

    A SSD makes everything you load from it faster including windows and I don't see the point of not having one in any computer nowadays unless we are talking of the cheapest one for checking your email. Even if you just need it for surfing the webb and similar stuff it is still worth getting one.

    And it is n ice that the prices keep dropping. :)
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Ridelynn said:
    You know, if computers never got faster, and we were just content to wait for them, we'd still be using this.



    And we'd still be patiently waiting, all non-ADD like and such, for it to render 1 frame per month of the latest games.

    It is kind of relative.  Back when I worked at Symbolics, we had a project to put our Lisp hardware in a Sun Microsystems computer.  You had to compile the OS and setup the Major and Minor numbers for hardware. We had a three ring binder on how to do this and it would take a day to install.  As the project moved forward the process became a lot easier and faster.  So that is nice.

    Eventually I was working at another company and building Sun Servers would take a long time (3 hours) because the install media was on a lot of discs.  Eventually Jumpstart and JET became available and the installation time was down to 30 minutes or less.   At first it was like wow, this is so much faster!  A few years later, it was like, damn that is going to take 30 minutes....

    When our congressional customers switch over to virtualization for sun, setup was just a copy of a file and a short amount of provisioning.  Snap.


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  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Quizzical said:
    And it's not much cheaper than some other SSDs, either.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228137
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313666

    Some things don't scale with Moore's Law, but NAND flash capacity sure seems to, at least for now.  Hard drives are becoming less and less necessary.
    Unfortunately we still have a huge portion of people like my roommates who use stupid excuses like "I don't want to have to re-download a game on the off chance i want to play it again" (nevermind the 75meg download speed we have) or the even more ludicrous "I play every game i have installed" excuse (when you check their steam profile and 80% of the games they have installed they haven't touched in over a year or more and most of the games have less than 5 hours played).  Since those people still exist in such massive droves, it's going to have to get to the point where 1tb SSD's are ~60-80 dollars or so before i reckon we'll see most gamers utilize them completely.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

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  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Torval said:
    I just built a new workstation at work and it has a 500GB 850 EVO for the OS drive and a 2TB 850 EVO for the data drive. I love it. Firing up my VMs is blazingly fast. My db and file processing is blazingly fast. SSDs provide a lot of advantages outside of just program loading.
    My buddy who just got back from Qatar just built a i7 5820 rig with 32gb of RAM, a 512gb 950 Pro OS drive and a 1tb 850 evo, and he does exactly what you are talking about, shitloads of VM's.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    Holy shit glad I didn't buy a ssd earlier last year that only held 400 GB for around 300+ wasn't worthit cuz now its $200 for a 1000 GB I told ya so everyone lol.
  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Wanna hear something sad.  5 years ago when i put together the computer i am typing this on (jan 2011), i paid just under $300 for a 180gb OCZ Vertex 2 which is (still) operating as my OS drive.

    That will now buy a much faster, 1tb drive with ease.

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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    It's not the performance that worries me but a potential drive failure.

    As my dead grandfather the wise old man once said:
    Don't be cheap when you buy a new hard drive - when all your data is gone you will know that this is really the worst thing to try and save money on.
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    One day your kids will be asking what a hard drive was.  :-)

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  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Quizzical said:
    Gaming?  Who said anything about gaming?  When I tell my computer to do something, I usually mean now.  Not just, whenever you get around to doing it.  I like that my computer does what I tell it when I tell it.  With hard drives, you often get to sit there and wait.  Yes, that's true for games, but it's also true for everything else on a computer.

    And it's not a ton of extra money anymore, either.  You can get a 240 GB SSD for around $60, or 120 GB for under $40.  
    Didn't realize they were so cheap. I think my 120gb one was like $150 when I built my PC XD.
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415

    The other thing about SSDs that most people don't know about is that the controller keeps track of all the sectors, and if a sector starts going bad or indicating it will fail the controller will mark that sector to not be used.

    SSD rarely just catastrophically fail.  Usually if they do it's because the controller went out and not the actual memory.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385
    Dakeru said:
    It's not the performance that worries me but a potential drive failure.

    As my dead grandfather the wise old man once said:
    Don't be cheap when you buy a new hard drive - when all your data is gone you will know that this is really the worst thing to try and save money on.
    If you have data you can't afford to lose, you need to have 3 copies of it at all times.  It doesn't matter if you use hard drives or SSDs.  Either can experience catastrophic failure, and their catastrophic failure rates are about the same. 

    That only leaves predictable failures to worry about for SSDs, which are completely dependent on how much you write to them.  I did some math a few times and don't feel like typing it again.  The conclusion was that SSDs will last much longer than their useful life (about 20 years) even if you write to 20% of the blocks every day.  On a 250GB SSD, this means downloading a new 50GB game every single day.  I can understand some specialized workloads achieving this, but for consumers, a SSD is reliable enough to replace hard drives.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    You can tell how times change.  We've become a society where a few seconds to boot up a computer is criminal in nature.  In those few seconds, text someone.  That should keep you busy.

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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,620
    mgilbrtsn said:
    You can tell how times change.  We've become a society where a few seconds to boot up a computer is criminal in nature.  In those few seconds, text someone.  That should keep you busy.
    I dont have a cell phone to text anyone with so I tend to just make myself a nice korean sejak!


    I hope those prices stay low as I could use a bigger ssd just for games..my little 256gb is feeling kinda small lately.

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  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Asm0deus said:
    mgilbrtsn said:
    You can tell how times change.  We've become a society where a few seconds to boot up a computer is criminal in nature.  In those few seconds, text someone.  That should keep you busy.
    I dont have a cell phone to text anyone with so I tend to just make myself a nice korean sejak!


    I hope those prices stay low as I could use a bigger ssd just for games..my little 256gb is feeling kinda small lately.
    Should start a thread on 'What do you do while your computer boots'

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,101
    Wizardry said:
    When i need to spend extra money to save a few seconds of load time,i better run away from computers.I don't spark up my computer with frantic ADD "cmon load cmon load i just need to game RIGHT NOW.
    I like to always remain relaxed,i always have something i can do while my PC is loading.
    Also gaming is NOT that important in life,it is suppose to be a relaxing past time .We already spend far too much on computers and games,people need to get back to REAL life and spend less on gaming,keep it real and keep it healthy.
    I am not knocking you OP,i have been there before as a youngster,wasting time and wasting money,getting caught up in the latest hardware.Luckily we all learn over time but imo we take too long to learn the real values in life.
    I am 45 years old and I used you to be just like you, then I finally bought into the hype....and it was legit. My SSD has been one of my favorite upgrades. Everything is more efficient, gaming is probably the least affected by it. It is not just about fast bootup times, and it isn't even about how long it takes to get into windows....but it is about how fast you can use your PC. With my old HDD I would get into windows then have to wait for everything to catch up before I could even right click something, with my SSD when the desktop loads it is ready to use. Programs load faster, files transfer faster, everything is snappier. I could never go back to an HDD.

    So keep on being the proud, grumpy "get off my lawn!" guy if you want, but this thread was not on your lawn. Take your negative, condescending comments elsewhere.
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