Its a difficult and complex subject, is the act of taking your own life selfish? by definition yes, it is the most selfish act imaginable, but the complicated part is this, People who are affected by so severe a depression that they take that path believe in their heart and mind that they are being selfless.
People who take the suicide road and I mean take it seriously, believe that is it their only way out, they genuinely believe the world and the people in it that they love are better off without them, they believe it so strongly that they override the most basic of instincts, the urge to survive.
The people left behind after a suicide are often conflicted and tormented them selves though, angry that they were robbed of a love one, sad that they are gone they dont know how to react because they want to be angry, but it doesnt feel right and they want to be sad but they are angry.
Its a much more complex and multi layered debate than most game forums are capable of having.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
The guy was triggered without much cause, but his opinions on all that weren't necessarily wrong. He did end up trying to spread some positivity with all that "you're stronger than you think you are" shit in the end, although he did so in the same demeaning tone. Was funny how pissy the other guy on voice chat was about it. Sounded like he was crying.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
If what you're doing in your personal life is negatively affecting the public image of your employer. Then there is really only one thing you can do. And by the title of this topic I think the proper action was done.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
Hey Cramit, it doesn't really work that way for a lot of companies.
Heck, my company has canceled a person's interview because of what they found on his personal video blog.
thats' why a lot of people have separate and secret facebook profiles.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
This guy made like what fast food workers in Seattle make. This isn't exactly industry big time news. So much conflict over what is essentially a guy who flips burgers virtually while whoring himself out for money via a system designed to make people impulse donate...because you know...everyone gives a dollar to the sign holders.
It's like this kid was the CEO of hi-rez the way this entire thing comes off as.
It's silly fun to read but silly none the less.
There are people like getting their heads chopped off in the congo and you all are sjw'ing a csr who was on twitch... logic man...
I have just been watching a documentary i don't know why they always make me cry and it was about immigrants kids in greece and apparently some of them have been comitting suicide the immigrants.
Some of these people are in a country they don't know, have lost family members because not everyone makes it so i suppose these people are just being selfish aswell.
To think everyone lives the same and is treated the same and has the same access to help just shows how much people either live in a bubble or very close minded they can't open their mind to what it must be like for some people to live.
You can have your intellect any day but i would rather know someone who is dumb and open minded than someone intellectual but close minded around me any day.
That guy is a fucking asshole. He used his authority to constantly harass players and community members regularly and when confronted he would always play the victim, just as he doing now. Once during a livecast of league he constantly harassed a competitor of a team, constantly denoted the competitor as troll and continued with his commentary with "the troll is now on jungle, hope he dies and feeds the jungle creeps", "ooowww the troll got rekt!! it was so awesome!! suck it troll!!" and so on. When the team leader confronted him he as usual he played the victim. This asshole desrves a huge bamboo up his ass.
And also as usual Hi-rez did nothing to him since he is a relative of a hi-rez bigshot, he just quit on his own. Fucking asshole!!
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
If what you're doing in your personal life is negatively affecting the public image of your employer. Then there is really only one thing you can do. And by the title of this topic I think the proper action was done.
It seems the fellow resigned.
That's honorable.
I agree with you in general. However I still have a problem with "your personal life is negatively affecting the public image of your employer" merely because it seems the public can't distinguish between a company and a person based on that logic.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
There should be consequences for your actions, especially when they are this negative. Think for a moment. His level of insensitivity could have resulted in the death of another human.
I have just been watching a documentary i don't know why they always make me cry and it was about immigrants kids in greece and apparently some of them have been comitting suicide the immigrants.
Some of these people are in a country they don't know, have lost family members because not everyone makes it so i suppose these people are just being selfish aswell.
To think everyone lives the same and is treated the same and has the same access to help just shows how much people either live in a bubble or very close minded they can't open their mind to what it must be like for some people to live.
You can have your intellect any day but i would rather know someone who is dumb and open minded than someone intellectual but close minded around me any day.
There are many reasons why someone would want to take their own life.
Being a brand rep is serious business. Whether warranted or unwarranted, people will sue, boycott and protest over many things. When you're representing a brand you have stay in line with their public values or be powerful enough for them to stand behind yours.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
There should be consequences for your actions, especially when they are this negative. Think for a moment. His level of insensitivity could have resulted in the death of another human.
Really?
So now what we say should carry like man slaughter sentence or attempted murder or man slaughter?
Because that's the slope you walk when you start blaming a person for another's REACTION to something.
What kind of crazy let's just entirely rip all free speech away because it might hurt someones feelers enough for them to off themselves? Really?
What next? Art inspires anger so we must burn it as we do the witches?
The CSR/"Streamer" was a dick but come on....Man 1 lol....
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
I've never worked for a company that didn't care for how it's employees personal life wasn't an important factor in maintaining a job. I don't know of any company that wants a guy who rants like that in a public media forum to be associated with them in any way, shape or form. There are just certain jobs in society that require you to uphold to a higher standard in social events and media. Such as journalists, doctors, law enforcement and yes, even the game industry.
I've turned down a couple jobs merely because they wanted to view/search through my facebook and what not. I guess it's just a sad state of affairs these days, imo.
Most of you commenting on this thread don't even know DMBrandon and his history. It is not about his view on suicide, it is his constant douchebaggery over the course of his time in Hi-rez that made the 99% smite community hate him. He is simply an asshole who deserved to be fired but he was not and now he acts all high and mighty and says : "You don't fire me i quit myself!! that is how important i am!!". He is always getting away with his douchebaggery, always bullying someone and then claiming he was right to do so and people are just bullying him and he is a victim. I believe the only reason he is quitting is because his relative will give him job again in hi-rez if he asks.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
A self-obsessed Millennial (WTF is the deal with all you narcissistic streamers putting your disembodied head on the screen during gameplay anyway, stop that shit, no one wants to see it) gets his Epeen hard by attacking someone on the internet. What would you expect, civility and respect from these streamers? That doesn't get clicks and views, pussy.
Yes I am pissed at his reaction to this person who was clearly looking for attention/help. You are a geeky fuck playing a shitty game trying to raise some money. Someone gives you said money and you want to shit on him because of his reasons? That is pathetic.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Most of you commenting on this thread don't even know DMBrandon and his history. It is not about his view on suicide, it is his constant douchebaggery over the course of his time in Hi-rez that made the 99% smite community hate him. He is simply an asshole who deserved to be fired but he was not and now he acts all high and mighty and says : "You don't fire me i quit myself!! that is how important i am!!". He is always getting away with his douchebaggery, always bullying someone and then claiming he was right to do so and people are just bullying him and he is a victim. I believe the only reason he is quitting is because his relative will give him job again in hi-rez if he asks.
No. Pretty sure everyone knows he's a douche. Pretty sure many of us are just here to watch a train wreck clean up....Oh look a decapitated toddler...time for a selfy or selfies if we can find the torso!
That's this thread. A train wreck site with a bunch of dead orphans.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
If what you're doing in your personal life is negatively affecting the public image of your employer. Then there is really only one thing you can do. And by the title of this topic I think the proper action was done.
It seems the fellow resigned.
That's honorable.
I agree with you in general. However I still have a problem with "your personal life is negatively affecting the public image of your employer" merely because it seems the public can't distinguish between a company and a person based on that logic.
It doesn't matter the circumstance. If you're causing damage to your employer for something you're doing in your personal life, the honorable thing is to offer your resignation.
Who's wrong or who's right has no bearing.
It's the honorable thing to do.
If the employer feels you are being unjustly judged by the public, they can always decline your resignation and try to talk you out of it.
It's just the right thing to do and shows character.
Pretty rare thing these days, especially regarding politicians and public servants.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
I've never worked for a company that didn't care for how it's employees personal life wasn't an important factor in maintaining a job. I don't know of any company that wants a guy who rants like that in a public media forum to be associated with them in any way, shape or form. There are just certain jobs in society that require you to uphold to a higher standard in social events and media. Such as journalists, doctors, law enforcement and yes, even the game industry.
I've turned down a couple jobs merely because they wanted to view/search through my facebook and what not. I guess it's just a sad state of affairs these days, imo.
I remember the 1st time i went for a temp job interview during university, they dug up my whole family history just to be certain i was a decent pick, it is a standard practice when hiring employee. These days now they also look at facebook or social media to see that our online life is also up to par. I don't see anything wrong with it, as far as i know 1st world countries also maintain this practice.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
I've never worked for a company that didn't care for how it's employees personal life wasn't an important factor in maintaining a job. I don't know of any company that wants a guy who rants like that in a public media forum to be associated with them in any way, shape or form. There are just certain jobs in society that require you to uphold to a higher standard in social events and media. Such as journalists, doctors, law enforcement and yes, even the game industry.
I've turned down a couple jobs merely because they wanted to view/search through my facebook and what not. I guess it's just a sad state of affairs these days, imo.
I remember the 1st time i went for a temp job interview during university, they dug up my whole family history just to be certain i was a decent pick, it is a standard practice when hiring employee. These days now they also look at facebook or social media to see that our online life is also up to par. I don't see anything wrong with it, as far as i know 1st world countries also maintain this practice.
Eh, well then I just disagree with the practice. I mean, if they wanna pay me 24/7 then sure, they can look at all the stuff I post, look at and everything. Otherwise it's just a slippery slope to a world where no one can say anything in fear of losing their lively hood.
In any event, I do play smite and never heard of this guy but I play extremely casually so not aware of his past transgressions. However I find the petition to have him fired that was linked on page 2 interesting since it only has 25 sigs on it. Would think with a reputation like the one you mentioned, there would be a ton more on there.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
I agree with this however I don't think the issue should really be about what he said. You can agree or disagree with him but I think the issue is whether or not he should have lost his job for it. If his stream was him working for the company then I completely get the firing. If this is his personal stream that he did on his own time then I think it is once again an attempt for people to silence others when they don't agree with their speech.
I've never worked for a company that didn't care for how it's employees personal life wasn't an important factor in maintaining a job. I don't know of any company that wants a guy who rants like that in a public media forum to be associated with them in any way, shape or form. There are just certain jobs in society that require you to uphold to a higher standard in social events and media. Such as journalists, doctors, law enforcement and yes, even the game industry.
I've turned down a couple jobs merely because they wanted to view/search through my facebook and what not. I guess it's just a sad state of affairs these days, imo.
Companies live in the public eye. Are you saying that if you owned a company, you would hire anyone, racist, bigot, sexiest? As long as they did a good job you would not care? If 70% of your customers were black, you would hire a white supremacist? Get real.
Yeah, the streamer was cold but it's not his job to coddle the emotionally weak. Seriously, life isn't a Church Of Latter Day Saints commercial. He wasn't malicious, he had an opinion that might have compromised the brand. He quit.
Folks that start flinging around their creative adjectives about how outraged and how morally wrong and terrible he is need to go sit down. You're trying to dry snitch a situation that's already closed.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
Comments
People who take the suicide road and I mean take it seriously, believe that is it their only way out, they genuinely believe the world and the people in it that they love are better off without them, they believe it so strongly that they override the most basic of instincts, the urge to survive.
The people left behind after a suicide are often conflicted and tormented them selves though, angry that they were robbed of a love one, sad that they are gone they dont know how to react because they want to be angry, but it doesnt feel right and they want to be sad but they are angry.
Its a much more complex and multi layered debate than most game forums are capable of having.
That being said the streamer guy should have just said "Get professional help, I am glad my stream helped, but you need to see some one who can really help".
Quickly burn the witch.
(Or do what I'm doing and make fun of all the self righteous people.)
It's suicide, whatever.
Don't like the ride then hop on off. It's like the only choice we have in life lol... Carry on reddmmorpgit,.com. Carry on.
It seems the fellow resigned.
That's honorable.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Heck, my company has canceled a person's interview because of what they found on his personal video blog.
thats' why a lot of people have separate and secret facebook profiles.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
This guy made like what fast food workers in Seattle make. This isn't exactly industry big time news.
So much conflict over what is essentially a guy who flips burgers virtually while whoring himself out for money via a system designed to make people impulse donate...because you know...everyone gives a dollar to the sign holders.
It's like this kid was the CEO of hi-rez the way this entire thing comes off as.
It's silly fun to read but silly none the less.
There are people like getting their heads chopped off in the congo and you all are sjw'ing a csr who was on twitch... logic man...
Some of these people are in a country they don't know, have lost family members because not everyone makes it so i suppose these people are just being selfish aswell.
To think everyone lives the same and is treated the same and has the same access to help just shows how much people either live in a bubble or very close minded they can't open their mind to what it must be like for some people to live.
You can have your intellect any day but i would rather know someone who is dumb and open minded than someone intellectual but close minded around me any day.
And also as usual Hi-rez did nothing to him since he is a relative of a hi-rez bigshot, he just quit on his own. Fucking asshole!!
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Some reasons are selfish....
Some are not.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Really?
So now what we say should carry like man slaughter sentence or attempted murder or man slaughter?
Because that's the slope you walk when you start blaming a person for another's REACTION to something.
What kind of crazy let's just entirely rip all free speech away because it might hurt someones feelers enough for them to off themselves? Really?
What next? Art inspires anger so we must burn it as we do the witches?
The CSR/"Streamer" was a dick but come on....Man 1 lol....
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
A self-obsessed Millennial (WTF is the deal with all you narcissistic streamers putting your disembodied head on the screen during gameplay anyway, stop that shit, no one wants to see it) gets his Epeen hard by attacking someone on the internet. What would you expect, civility and respect from these streamers? That doesn't get clicks and views, pussy.
Yes I am pissed at his reaction to this person who was clearly looking for attention/help. You are a geeky fuck playing a shitty game trying to raise some money. Someone gives you said money and you want to shit on him because of his reasons? That is pathetic.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Pretty sure many of us are just here to watch a train wreck clean up....Oh look a decapitated toddler...time for a selfy or selfies if we can find the torso!
That's this thread. A train wreck site with a bunch of dead orphans.
It's why it's blown up. People love train wrecks.
Who's wrong or who's right has no bearing.
It's the honorable thing to do.
If the employer feels you are being unjustly judged by the public, they can always decline your resignation and try to talk you out of it.
It's just the right thing to do and shows character.
Pretty rare thing these days, especially regarding politicians and public servants.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
In any event, I do play smite and never heard of this guy but I play extremely casually so not aware of his past transgressions. However I find the petition to have him fired that was linked on page 2 interesting since it only has 25 sigs on it. Would think with a reputation like the one you mentioned, there would be a ton more on there.
Folks that start flinging around their creative adjectives about how outraged and how morally wrong and terrible he is need to go sit down. You're trying to dry snitch a situation that's already closed.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯